Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

Pipe Dream?... I expect to have recurrent nightmares soI've decided to run for my life instead of exposing myself to danger on the Charles.

I didn't ask whether your think that rowing at the Head of the Charles this year is just a pipe dream.

I asked whether you think that doing 2:05 pace at the Head of the Charles this year is just a pipe dream.

I guess we'll soon see.

ranger

[ranger]

It looks as though I will try to hold my pace flat at 1:35 for BIRC 2010, shooting for 6:20.

34 spm

12.2 SPI

1700m of it--and then kick it to the finish at 40 spm.

So, right around 8 seconds per 500m faster than Mike VB.

A half a minute over 2K.

120 df.

Then I will try to push that down to 1:34 @ 34 spm (12.5 SPI) for WIRC 2011.

No 40s lwt has ever pulled 6:20 at BIRC.

ranger

[ranger]

So, if Mike VB can pull 1:31 for 500m, I should be able to pull 1:23.

13.5 SPI @ 44 spm.

61 strokes.

Over the next month, I'll shoot for that.

ranger

[mikvan52]

.... funniest parts in blue

I don't have any problem with the physical side of rowing OTW.

I don't find it any harder than erging, which I have done, oh, I don't know, for about 70 million meters now over the last decade.

I would have made it to the end of the course yesterday just fine (blah, blah, blah)(with one hand tied behind my back)

Happy with that.

I've an idea: A "boo-boo strip" for your ego: It will resurrect your public image so you don't remain looking like a stuntman for Lethal Weapon X

#1 GET AHOLD OF A TIMER THAT HAS ALL THE ELEGANT FUNCTIONS:

• intermediate splits, rate, distance, strokes taken, timer, recall-able, download-able, reli-able
• learn how to use it

#2 GET BACK IN THE BOAT AND ROW A HEAD RACE TYPE DISTANCE WHERE YOU WON'T HIT ANYBODY
(perhaps you can get the Great Salt Flats in Utah flooded for the occasion?) Please post warning notices to alert unsuspecting passers-by


#3 REPORT ALL THE DATA WITH PHOTO VERIFICATION

(since you are literally rich: why not buy the SpeedCoach XL?... it does these things... or borrow one)

Then we'll see whether you maintain 2:05 pace for 5k or not.. in that battering ram of yours...

What do you think?
After that you can lobby for an "unguided missile" division at the HOCR.

Good luck

Truth of the matter though is that you've already intimated that you've not rowed even one non-stop 5k as part of the prodigious number of k's you've claimed to have sculled.
IOW: in the vernacular:... you're a "piker"

And as for not having "any problem with the physical side of rowing OTW".... We know you don't, but what about those kids in the eight?

[ranger]

.... funniest parts in blue

I don't have any problem with the physical side of rowing OTW.

I don't find it any harder than erging, which I have done, oh, I don't know, for about 70 million meters now over the last decade.

I would have made it to the end of the course yesterday just fine (blah, blah, blah)(with one hand tied behind my back)

Happy with that.

I've an idea: A "boo-boo strip" for your ego: It will resurrect your public image so you don't remain looking like a stuntman for Lethal Weapon X

#1 GET AHOLD OF A TIMER THAT HAS ALL THE ELEGANT FUNCTIONS:

• intermediate splits, rate, distance, strokes taken, timer, recall-able, download-able, reli-able
• learn how to use it

#2 GET BACK IN THE BOAT AND ROW A HEAD RACE TYPE DISTANCE WHERE YOU WON'T HIT ANYBODY
(perhaps you can get the Great Salt Flats in Utah flooded for the occasion?) Please post warning notices to alert unsuspecting passers-by


#3 REPORT ALL THE DATA WITH PHOTO VERIFICATION

(since you are literally rich: why not buy the SpeedCoach XL?... it does these things... or borrow one)

Then we'll see whether you maintain 2:05 pace for 5k or not.. in that battering ram of yours...

What do you think?
After that you can lobby for an "unguided missile" division at the HOCR.

Good luck

Truth of the matter though is that you've already intimated that you've not rowed even one non-stop 5k as part of the prodigious number of k's you've claimed to have sculled.
IOW: in the vernacular:... you're a "piker"

And as for not having "any problem with the physical side of rowing OTW".... We know you don't, but what about those kids in the eight?

Good luck at the Head of the Charles.

From what you say here, it sounds as though you're nervous as hell about it.

2:05?

We'll see, I guess.

ranger

[mikvan52]

Best leave the rowing (in boats) to those who can learn to steer in 7 long years OTW.

How's the hard sharpening coming on the erg?

Have you done any controlled workouts? Or, is it all just RWB, free-form, eu-rhythmic, gobble-dy-gook with no trackable metrics whatsoever that can be deciphered by anyone?

Yes, we know... you "are happy with that."

[snowleopard]

From what you say here, it sounds as though you're nervous as hell about it.

Eh -- how do you get to that? And why are you so hung up on 2:05? Mike can only row as the conditions will allow. It's a race, if Mike finishes well up the field then job done.

And besides, pre-race nerves are a good thing. Matt Pinsent used to vomit from nerves before all major events.

I would suggest that it's you ranger that's as nervous (and envious) as hell over Mike posting yet another good result in a discipline that you clearly don't understand at all.

ranger the great autodidact got a big FAIL in his first exam. Time to change the teacher

[ranger]

Mike--

The veterans race at the Head of the Charles is heavily handicapped.

So I am in no hurry to develop my OTW rowing.

I suspect that I will get steadily better OTW for the next decade.

As I mentioned, if I am now rowing about 23 seconds per 500m above my erg times (e.g., 2:05 @ 26 spm for 5K) and the lightweight limit is a 12 seconds per 500 difference, then I can still get 11 seconds per 500m better OTW, just by improving my technique.

I suspect that what you can do right now OTW is about it.

For you, it's all downhill from here.

ranger

[ranger]

From what you say here, it sounds as though you're nervous as hell about it.

Eh -- how do you get to that? And why are you so hung up on 2:05? Mike can only row as the conditions will allow. It's a race, if Mike finishes well up the field then job done.

And besides, pre-race nerves are a good thing. Matt Pinsent used to vomit from nerves before all major events.

I would suggest that it's you ranger that's as nervous (and envious) as hell over Mike posting yet another good result in a discipline that you clearly don't understand at all.

ranger the great autodidact got a big FAIL in his first exam. Time to change the teacher

Nope.

No reason to change the teacher.

Just time for the student to take another class: steering.

My rowing OTW yesterday was just fine, as far as it goes.

No problems at all.

That was a huge triumph for me.

My OTW rowing continues to get better each time out, and this improvement will probably continue for the next decade.

I will now learn to steer.

ranger

[ranger]

Have you done any controlled workouts? Or, is it all just RWB, free-form, eu-rhythmic, gobble-dy-gook with no trackable metrics whatsoever that can be deciphered by anyone?

Nothing fast this morning OTErg,

Just UT2 stuff, 1:49 @ 22 spm, right on my target.

90min OTBike after breakfast.

Then I'll be back out OTW.

ranger

[mikvan52]

Good luck at the Head of the Charles.

From what you say here, it sounds as though you're nervous as hell about it.

2:05?

We'll see, I guess.

ranger

Thanks, Dr.Freud.

I've done a wee bit of preparation for it though.
Here: I wrote out a list on a cocktail napkin at lunch yesterday to bolster my quaking resolve (It was more interesting to me than watching the the Ravens lose to the Patriots :
These are just a few things I've done this year to ensure a positive result this coming Saturday.


2010 year in review:

Complete list

#1 Crash B
• went for WR in the 55-59 lwt: fell short
• my best erg race was in January = 6:47.x for 2k

#2 San Diego Crew Classic
• First time competing in a Masters Eight at 2k: We won the “D”
• I sat at 4-seat

#3 Goal = The Charles
• all other things are secondary this year
• raced thru the sprint season
• plagued by nagging light injuries
• sculled in most of the events I did last year

#4 Races rowed in build-up for Charles (number in paren’s is # of races in event)

• Black Fly regatta (1st place 50-59) (finally beat Jack Meyer) (1)
• Mayors Cup (doubled at open 2k and “E” 1k) (lost both) (2)
• Cromwell Cup (opted for D hwt 1x) 2nd to David Gray (age 50 hwt) (2)
• Cromwell Cup race #2 (won heat in 2x but weather cnxed final) (1)
• Sweeps and Sculls (lifetime PB in 1x at 1k = 3:40.18) (2)
• Diamond States 1x 1k+ “E” (won by 26 seconds) (1)
• Diamond States race #2 (2x w/Duncan Spencer) (Won) (1)
• Diamond States race #3 (2x w/Mary) (our personal best; 2nd) (1)
• Masters Nationals race #1 (hwt E 1x) won (3)
• Masters Nationals race #2 (lwt E 1x) won (1)
• Masters Nationals race #3 (lwt E 2x) won (1)
• Masters Nationals race #4 (hwt E 2x) 6th (2)
• GMS Challenge 9k (lwt competition) was fastest 50+ OF ALL WEIGHTS (1)
• Green Mountain Head (55-64 group) won (1) beat 3rd place finisher of last year's HOCR
• Head of the Housatonic (50-59 handicapped) 2nd

Best year on record. 21 individual sculling contests, 1 sweep contest, 2 erg contests



I feel I'll do well at the HOCR. But thanks for all the negativity! I love considering the source.

But back to you...
Rich: Ever consider preparing for racing and then racing? ... as opposed to the line "I wasn't really prepared." (?)

[ranger]

Ever consider preparing for racing and then racing?

OTW, I am just learning to row.

I am not racing at all.

OTErg, I have six sub-6:30 2Ks, one when I was 55, three world record rows, golds at all the major championships (two at BIRC), and the 55s lwt BIRC championship record, which I hope to lower by over 20 seconds next month.

Sounds like I know how to prepare to race and race, no?

I am preparing to race right now, and will continue to sharpen for the next six months.

My goal for WIRC 2011 is the limit of my potential: 6:16.

My goal for BIRC is 6:20.

No 40s lwt has ever pulled 6:20 at BIRC.

At BIRC, I will be two months shy of 60.

ranger

[mikvan52]

Have you done any controlled workouts? Or, is it all just RWB, free-form, eu-rhythmic, gobble-dy-gook with no trackable metrics whatsoever that can be deciphered by anyone?

Nothing ( )this morning

I'LL ASK AGAIN:
Have you done any controlled workouts? THIS FALL SEASON
(emphasis for the syntactically impaired)

[ranger]

Have you done any controlled workouts? Or, is it all just RWB, free-form, eu-rhythmic, gobble-dy-gook with no trackable metrics whatsoever that can be deciphered by anyone?

Nothing ( )this morning

I'LL ASK AGAIN:
Have you done any controlled workouts? THIS FALL SEASON
(emphasis for the syntactically impaired)

I am entirely controlled in my workouts.

As I said, this morning I did a lot of 1:49 @ 22 spm at UT2, right on my target.

In preparing for a 2K, nothing is more important than your UT2 pace, don't you think?

What do you do for pace on the erg at a UT2 HR?

Your UT2 pace is the foundation upon which everything else you do stands/falls.

If your UT2 pace is only 1:58, as yours is, you don't have a hope in hell of pulling 6:16 for 2K, no?

If your UT2 pace is only 1:58, as yours is, the prediction is that you will pull around 6:50 for 2K, not 6:16.

It's a no-brainer.

As you know well, in rowing, you don't get fast by rowing fast.

You get fast by improving, and then maintaining, your UT2 pace.

ranger

[mikvan52]

No 40s lwt has ever pulled 6:20 at BIRC.

Who are the 40's lwts erging at BIRC this year... Perhaps they have a chance

Oh... btw: I was talkng about "hard sharpening" workouts only.
Please list a few sample "hard sharpening" workouts for us..
... that you have completed
...without blowing up
...since September 1st, 2010

I know the times and/or splits will not be stated... It would be nice to know, nonetheless, that you are getting an idea of just how "fast"
you are... 1:30 per 500m max speed? 1:29 ??? Yes, I'd say 1:29
Double the d add five

Hey? How about a TT 500m in 10 days/// I'll IND_V one and so can you ??
Grueling distance... that 500...