Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

Beautiful morning OTW, after erging and biking.

Calm, clear, 50 degrees F.

Another week or so, and the trees here in Ann Arbor will be at high Fall color.

ranger

[ranger]

What model of Suunto watch do you have?

I just go it from C2, the t3c.

ranger

[Byron Drachman]

In response to this situation, Mike was nasty, dismissive, ridiculing, etc. _Very_ poor show--but typical. Mike VB now reacts in a similar way.

But fortunately for us, we have you to show us proper behavior. It is a pity that others don't follow your fine example of good sportsmanship and forum etiquette. It has to be frustrating to be such a guiding light that nobody appreciates.

[ranger]

In response to this situation, Mike was nasty, dismissive, ridiculing, etc. _Very_ poor show--but typical. Mike VB now reacts in a similar way.

But fortunately for us, we have you to show us proper behavior. It is a pity that others don't follow your fine example of good sportsmanship and forum etiquette. It has to be frustrating to be such a guiding light that nobody appreciates.

Or you?



I guess we have all been trained in by Mike.

The sign of a good coach.

As time goes by, all of the novices under his care end up following his lead.

Thanks, Mike!

ranger

[ranger]

Byron--

By and large, over the last seven years, I have just been training and reporting my training, which has been a complete success.

With this training, OTErg, I have made the transition from rowing poorly (10 SPI) at max drag (200+ df.) to rowing perfectly (13 SPI) at low drag (118 df.).

I have also learned to row OTW.

Now, I am just preparing to race (both OTErg and OTW).

The rest of my comment here has been an extended and reiterated response to trolls.

Don't know what to say about that.

Trolls like you are indeed a problem on this forum.

Any ideas about how we might eliminate them?

ranger

[ausrwr]

How would we stop those trolls?

Well Rich, if you'd refrain from posting, that'd pretty much do it.

But do come back in a week's time to tell us why you didn't row Head of the Grand...

[ranger]

How would we stop those trolls?

Well Rich, if you'd refrain from posting, that'd pretty much do it.

But do come back in a week's time to tell us why you didn't row Head of the Grand...

You illustrate my point.

Don't know why you are nay-saying about my OTW rowing.

Go figure.

So, here goes a response to another troll.

I am looking forward to my first race OTW, although as might be expected, I'll just try to take it easy and get down the course without embarrassing myself _too_ badly.

24-26 spm should do it.

If I have flat, open water, I should do 2:05 pace or so.

That's a faster pace than Dietz pulled to win the Veterans race at the Head of the Charles last year, albeit just barely.

So I'll be happy with that.

ranger

[rjw]

How would we stop those trolls?

Well Rich, if you'd refrain from posting, that'd pretty much do it.

But do come back in a week's time to tell us why you didn't row Head of the Grand...

You illustrate my point.

Just another troll.

ranger

Rich, you missed your calling....you should have been a comedian.

Your last 12 +/- posts are a perfect example.

Say something ridiculous.

When there is no response, say something more ridiculous and continue to escalate until someone responds.

I am particularly having a good laugh this morning especially after comparing yourself to EE. Now you are comparing a 6:16 at 60 to a 5:52 at 40.

Top drawer stuff Rich.

You can say all this with perfect dead-pan form - awesome!

Too bad that you don't have a shred of evidence to support your claims.

So it goes in the life of a troll.

[PaulH]

No wonder I have always felt that my cross-training is the most important thing that I do when I prepare to race!

OTBike, if I am driving my HR up to 175 bpm and holding it there for a couple of hours, that sure helps _other_ things--especially when the logic of the situation is _both-and_ rather than _either-or_!

ranger

Impressive bit of rangerism - it's pretty much assumed that he can ramp up his HR from 155 to 175 for a couple of hours, despite any evidence for it at all.

There was no "ramping up" involved.

I just rode my bike on my new Kurt Kinetic trainer with pretty much the same cadence that I have been using on my Cyclops trainer, and 45min or so into the session, I checked my Suunto watch and my HR was riding along at 175 bpm rather than 155 bpm, as it does on the Cyclops.

Clearly, the resistance is higher on the Kurt Kinetic.

ranger

And you managed this for two hours, first time on? Then I'm genuinely impressed, if a little disappointed that you've been loafing around at easier loads for so long before now.

[lancs]

Very interesting to compare the physiques of these two 6:16 rowers:





Something doesn't quite compute here....

[mikvan52]

Something doesn't quite compute here....

Ah, but you haven't seen ranger's camera that makes everything he says true, lancs!



Here's a snapshot for us all to consider:

Since Feb/March of 2010 there has not been a single ranger timed/distance report of that period (March thru today)... Not a single one...

I hope Byron gets his stopwatch on the Maestro for the Grand. Or, will ranger be a no show again?
"Had to stay home and do chores!"
"Racing your training is ruinous"
"Dog ate my car keys"

What will it be this time?

[snowleopard]

Something doesn't quite compute here....

Now let me see ........................
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Ah ha! Got it. It's the hat

[ausrwr]

How would we stop those trolls?

Well Rich, if you'd refrain from posting, that'd pretty much do it.

But do come back in a week's time to tell us why you didn't row Head of the Grand...

You illustrate my point.

Don't know why you are nay-saying about my OTW rowing.

Go figure.

So, here goes a response to another troll.

I am looking forward to my first race OTW, although as might be expected, I'll just try to take it easy and get down the course without embarrassing myself _too_ badly.

24-26 spm should do it.

If I have flat, open water, I should do 2:05 pace or so.

That's a faster pace than Dietz pulled to win the Veterans race at the Head of the Charles last year, albeit just barely.

So I'll be happy with that.

ranger

I'm nay-saying because I may just know a little more about OTW than you do. No, scrub that. I do.

Tell me when you go under 7 minutes for an OTW 2k. Mike could give the equivalent. Win a Henley medal. National Championship? Rich: I have been fortunate enough to train and race with (and on occasion, beat) rowers who have won multiple world and Olympic Championships, not to mention more medals than you can poke a stick at.

I really can't give a shit about why you won't listen to reason (which is why I descend to abuse, Byron can try reason all he likes), but am bemused at the fact that you think you know more than people like Mike VB who are at the top of their game, or Joe, who literally wrote the book on sculling.

I wish you luck with your endeavours, but I despise the way in which you have no respect for anyone at all in the sport, and have no knowledge of how they got to be good.

Jim Dietz wins races for a reason. He's fast, fit, technically adept, and hard as nails. You are not proven fast in any way shape or form on the water (excuse me if I don't believe your reports), fit (I don't doubt that: if I'm in that shape at 59.whatever, I shall be ecstatic), unproven technically, and have significant issues with preparation and your mental approach to the sport.

As previously noted by yourself, I am both an arsehole and a naysayer. I can deal with you throwing those names at me.

[rjw]

Something doesn't quite compute here....

Lancs - I've missed your commentary. Where have you been?

[ranger]

Tell me when you go under 7 minutes for an OTW 2k.

No 60s OTW rowers go under 7:00 for 2K.

_I_ certainly won't.

No need, or desire.

The winning 1K in the F division OTW at the US Nationals is usually done at around 2:00 pace.

At 60, I don't even race 2K OTW.

ranger