Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

I, as a rower, not an erger, am faster than anyone my age (55-59)in the United States and this includes all weights. I also have the fastest 55-59 lwt 60' erg piece every submitted to the ranking at 1 hour.

Rich: Stop making me brag.

Nah.

OTW, you are just faster than the few guys who show up to race each year at the Masters Nationals, and OTErg, for 60min, I'll outrow you by 1.3K, almost a mile.

8 seconds per 500m.

ranger

[Carl Watts]

I, as a rower, not an erger, am faster than anyone my age (55-59)in the United States and this includes all weights. I also have the fastest 55-59 lwt 60' erg piece every submitted to the ranking at 1 hour.

Rich: Stop making me brag.

Nah.

OTW, you are just faster than the few guys who show up to race each year at the Masters Nationals, and OTErg, for 60min, I'll outrow you by 1.3K, almost a mile.

8 seconds per 500m.

ranger

Nah.

You can't.

I won't even bother working out what pace that is, it's all just hot air until you post an IND_V distance on the C2 Online Rankings to prove it.

Still no 60min ranking from you this season Ranger ? Wow would have thought even one of your UT2 training rows would have put you at the top of the list ?

I would personally like to thank you however Ranger, because it's people like you that made Concept 2 come up with the IND_V ranking system or we would all be up to our necks in bullshit by now.

[bellboy]

I, as a rower, not an erger, am faster than anyone my age (55-59)in the United States and this includes all weights. I also have the fastest 55-59 lwt 60' erg piece every submitted to the ranking at 1 hour.

Rich: Stop making me brag.

Nah.

OTW, you are just faster than the few guys who show up to race each year at the Masters Nationals, and OTErg, for 60min, I'll outrow you by 1.3K, almost a mile.

8 seconds per 500m.

ranger

No you won't. You will chip away at Mike for a few posts with your usual bollocks. He will challenge you. You will change the subject and never put a ind ranked piece above 2k.Again. 13 year boys full of piss and vinegar behave like you. I do hope your children don't read this wank. The shame of it all

[Flipper21]

ranger = KING OF HYPOTHESIS.

when will u lot get that!

Ranger is a Hoaxer, nothing less nothing more. A bullshiter, an imaginer of what may be, a short minded liar, a poor parody of once as he was some time ago. Ranger WILL not attend BIRC. FACT

Ranger will beat the 60's lwt record as a Hwt and brag he did it as a Lwt. The writing is on the wall folks.

[Byron Drachman]

It's interesting that there must have been a course change.
As it stands now, there will be no racing under bridges.
The course will start just after one bridge and end just before the next.

When I showed you the course, I said you go to the starting area at the west side of the Waverly bridge. A race official tells you when to start and then you begin your running start by going under the Waverly bridge. You paddle under the Waverly bridge, take a few starboard strokes to get your point, and then start cranking it up. There is plenty of time to get to full speed before the timing starts. There is no racing under bridges. I mentioned this in a posting also. They will explain this on race day also. There was no course change.

The event is very low key and everybody has a lot of fun. If you do come, you will have fun, especially if you do it for the experience and don't worry about your elapsed time. Recorded times are meaningless. You can record an excellent time if the water is not choppy and you have a strong current and the wind is from the west. The time can appear to be terrible if the water is choppy and the wind is from the east. Either way it is fun.

Different rowers with different physical characteristics (body types/proportions) may well be suited individually to different styles.

Actually, I was going to mention this to Ranger and suggest he try one of the more unconventional styles that seems to work well with one of our local rowers with a physiology similar to Ranger's, and tweak his rigging for the style but he does not want to hear any advice from me so I didn't send the message.

[ranger]

I won't even bother working out what pace that is

1:44 @ 26 spm (12 SPI).

ranger

[ranger]

I would personally like to thank you however Ranger, because it's people like you that made Concept 2 come up with the IND_V ranking system or we would all be up to our necks in bullshit by now.

What do the rankings have to do with anything?

They are just a catalogue of 2K workouts.

The only important thing to time is your public 2K races at race venues, and that is done for you by race officials.

So there is no possibility of bullshit at all.

This last year, no one my age and weight came within 20 seconds of my 2K.

ranger

[Carl Watts]

I won't even bother working out what pace that is

1:44 @ 26 spm (12 SPI).

ranger

Ahh the old 1:44 again, you mean the one you cannot even sustain for a 2K most of the time these days let alone 60 minutes ?

You have trouble staying on subject. It was a about 60minutes yet you keep dragging up the good ol 2K. Doesn't make you much of an all round rower does it ? as soon as any event is longer than 2K your heading for the hills.

How are those screen shots coming along ? camera trouble ? How about ranking something ?

Why have I got the feeling I will also be rowing as a 55-59 hwt before I see anything other than a 2K from Ranger ?

[mikvan52]

This last year, no one my age and weight came within 20 seconds of my 2K.

WHY DON'T YOU POST THE AGE AND WEIGHT YOU ARE REFERRING TO AGAIN?

IT WILL (AGAIN) MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT. 6:41 IS ONLY 6 SECONDS FASTER THAN A 6:47 (in your real age group)... NOT "20"...

RANKING RESULTS 2010

| 2000m | Men's | Lightweight | Age Range (55–59) | 2010 Season
105 listed

Place [?] Name Age City State Country Time Source [?]
1 Rich Cureton 59 Ann Arbor MI USA 6:41.4 RACE
2 Michael van Beuren 57 Hartland VT USA 6:47.6 IND_V
3 Jonathan Rich 56 Winter Park FL USA 6:52.3 RACE
4 Eric Winterbottom 58 Bodytalk GBR 7:01.9 RACE

As anyone can see, you are wrong again.
Does it make you feel better to only count from your age and compare yourself to older people?
That is quite strange behavior.

[Bob S.]

I would personally like to thank you however Ranger, because it's people like you that made Concept 2 come up with the IND_V ranking system or we would all be up to our necks in bullshit by now.

That's odd. I was under the impression that, on this thread at least, we were already there.

Bob S. or should I just use both initials?

[Carl Watts]

In this thread we have been having to swim for quite some time or we would have drowned in BS by now.

[ranger]

I wonder:

What is long-term effect of a 60-year-old with a resting HR of 43 spm running their HR over 160 bpm three hours a day for a couple of decades, with another couple of hours of exercise a day reserved for even more intense efforts?

I wonder whether something like that has ever been done before?

Any old geezer who can do this is a pretty dedicated and durable S.O.B.

Yikes.

That's workin' hard.

My guess is that, one of these days, when I get OTErg and do 60min, 1:44 @ 26 spm (12 SPI), my HR will rise pretty quickly to 172 bpm--and flatline there for most of the hour, just as it did back in 2002-2003.

Then, when I kick it into the finish over the last 1K, my HR will push up to 185 bpm.

My 60min pb is 1:48.

1:48 for 60min predicts a 1:38/6:32 2K.

1:44 for 60min predicts a 1:34/6:16 2K.

ranger

[ranger]

What is the best way to train for rowing a 2K?

Give it the gun with UT1.

Set your mind free with Level 3.

Stop rowing shitty and do the nitty-gritty.



Slap a deathhold on your anaerobic threshold.

ranger

[ranger]

If conditions are good, I think I might be able to hold 2:00 @ 28 spm (7.15 SPI) at the Head of the Grand two weeks from today, on October 17th.

I'll have to get up to Lansing a few times over the next couple of weeks to see whether I am right about this.

The plan will be to lift my HR to my anaerobic threshold (172 bpm) and then hold it there.

I am now very comfortable at 28 spm in my Fluid.

UT1

With my Suunto watch, I can now track my HR rowing OTW, too.

2:00 @ 28 spm is faster than Mike VB plans to go at the Head of the Charles--by two seconds per 500m.

ranger

[ranger]

WHY DON'T YOU POST THE AGE AND WEIGHT YOU ARE REFERRING TO AGAIN?

My age is 59.

For my lightweight rows, my weight has to be, at most, 165 lbs.

You are younger than I am, Mike.

At WIRC 2011, you won't even be in my age division.

I will be a 60s lwt for WIRC 2011.

I would be delighted to race against you, head-to-head, at BIRC 2010, though.

But there isn't much chance of that.

You're too much of a chicken shit to come over to Birmingham and tangle.

Why?

If you do, you'll lose by 30 seconds.

I'll row 6:20.

You'll row 6:50.

You're just a bunch of hot air.

Pathetic stuff.

ranger