Ranger's training thread

[kini62]

This daily 90min cross-training routine on my bike at 22 spm is perfect.

ranger

Interesting. You "bike" at 22 spm. So, what exactly are you stroking while sitting astride your Huffy

Your bike "riding" is a joke. You have no idea of the calories burned or how hard you're working. Without a power meter you have no idea what you're doing.

In fact you have no idea what you're doing in general.

[ranger]

You have no idea of the calories burned or how hard you're working.

Sure I do.

I have done the same thing out on the road (or on equipment that _does_ have a power meter and calorie counter) and the results have come out the same.

I ride on the road at about 20 mph, too.

In stationary work, volume of sweat is good indication of the intensity of the work.

When I bike, I lose a kg. of water every 30min or so.

That's stiff work.

In 90m, I lose three kgs. of water.

That's quite a bit.

I flood the garage.

ranger

[ranger]

social gaff

Doing a lot of social fishing these days?

You know, there's no shame in avoiding words that you can never spell properly, even if you're a college English professor.

On another note, just because you're socially inept doesn't mean conventional social behavior is the problem.

I don't think that conventional social behavior is a problem at all.

It serves it purpose beautifully.

Athletic achievement, though, is not primarily social.

So if a training plan is oriented toward social value rather than athletic effectiveness, it is somewhat off the mark, unless it admits as much, which rarely happens.

It just seems to be a fact:

If social nicities are just described for what they are, they no longer function.

We need to think they are something that they aren't in order to maintain them effectively at all.

For instance, we seem to need to think that the training plans we have for rowing are the most effective ones possible, not that they are just what makes us feel good, or what we are willing to do, or what is suited to our particular circumstances and personal histories, or what we know about because it is what we and others did back when and therefore what has been done ever since, etc.

Ah, yea.

Sorry about the gaffe with _gaff_.

ranger

[aharmer]

Your final chance at owning the 55 WR is less than 8 weeks away. Instead of flooding your garage floor with kgs of sweat on the bike maybe you should consider a sharpening workout on the erg that will allow you to take a shot at the WR you've been unsuccessfully chasing for 5 years. The one that you'll claim you've never prepared for, but over the years there are literally dozens of posts about how you've been sharpening over and over and over.

I'm easily confused so please explain how you can claim to have sharpened on many, many occasions, but also claim to never have prepared for a race in years? Similar to right now. You are sharpening, then are going to start sharpening, are you sharpening or not sharpening?

And no, obviously you don't have to train the way I ask you to. But your training is what's on display here and there are gaping holes in your message. What would be so terrible about being honest in your attempt to break this WR in eight weeks? You might get it, you might not. Either way nobody in the world other than you and the current WR holder gives a shit.

The only reason I ask for these screenshots is because I want to see a workout indicating you will break this WR. Breaking WR's is exciting. If people saw you doing workouts indicating you were fit enough to do it they would be excited for BIRC. At this point nobody believes you'll be remotely close to the WR because you refuse to show any proof. People also know if you had proof from these workouts you'd be flaunting them in our face at every opportunity. We're supposed to take your word for it that you can do all of these superhuman things on the erg. Not going to happen.

[ranger]

'm easily confused so please explain how you can claim to have sharpened on many, many occasions, but also claim to never have prepared for a race in years?

I sharpened in the fall of 2001, the winter of 2002, the fall of 2002, the winter of 2003, and the fall of 2003.

I haven't sharpened since then.

Why?

I have been learning how to row well at low drag.

After a point (e.g., three WR rows), it does make any sense to try to go fast rowing badly at max drag when it is much more effective and efficient to row well at low drag.

No one with three WR rows has ever gotten better by sharpening.

ranger

[Citroen]

You have no idea of the calories burned or how hard you're working.

Sure I do.

I have done the same thing out on the road (or on equipment that _does_ have a power meter and calorie counter) and the results have come out the same.

I ride on the road at about 20 mph, too.

Your turbo isn't offering the same resistance as riding on the road. Without a power meter there's no way you can compare turbo to road. It's equivalent to comparing apples to oranges.

You do not ride at 20mph, you aren't riding time trials or road races every day on the road.

Get your Garmin mounted on your bike and get some more accurate numbers.

[aharmer]

I'm not willing to go back and dig in the archives but I guarantee there are plenty of posts since the day I joined this forum where you stated you were sharpening. If you notice, I wasn't a member in 2001, 2002 or 2003. Were all of those more recent sharpening declarations just lies?

[Byron Drachman]

Oct 4, 2006: I have just started to sharpen, folks.

Wed Nov 8, 2006: After not sharpening fully for four years, I am going to sharpen for four months now.

Nov 15, 2006: My technical problems are all solved now. I am now doing full sharpening and distance rowing.

Jam 16, 2007: I have now sorted out my technique, and I am doing both free rate distance rowing and full sharpening.

Jan 21, 2007: Over the next month, then, as I do full sharpening, I will try to hold the stroking power and lift the rate slowly to 34 spm.

Jan 23, 2007: I am just starting to sharpen --snip--

January 22, 2009: I have only been sharpening for three days.

February 2, 2009: Haven't really done any sharpening yet.

February 5, 2009: Sharpening is coming along perfectly.

February 9, 2009: What sharpening? I haven't done any yet.

Jan 25, 2010: I am just beginning to sharpen.

Jan 27: 2010: I now have seven weeks of sharpening.

Feb 2, 2010: I have just begun my sharpening

March 4, 2010: I am now sharpening hard.

March 8, 2010: I am just starting to sharpen.

September 21, 2010: I sharpened in the fall of 2001, the winter of 2002, the fall of 2002, the winter of 2003, and the fall of 2003. I haven't sharpened since then.

[bellboy]

Bless you Byron. He posts so often he forgets the lies he tells

[aharmer]

Priceless. Maybe there is another form of sharpening that is a precursor to real sharpening. I'm sure that's what he's referring to. Or potentially a pre-pre-sharpening period where you simply think about what it will be like to enter the pre-sharpening period, where you would begin to prepare for the actual sharpening. Now it makes sense.

Joking aside, do you have any explanation for what Byron just posted (and routinely posts) regarding your pathological lying? The human behavior side of this thread is far more interesting than the erging, or lack of erging, information.

[ranger]

This cadence at 36 spm in a 3-to-1 ratio at 118 df. is ringing my ears.

Clearly, it is my racing cadence.

Easy as pie rhythmically.

Just two pulses for the drive, an upbeat and a downbeat, in a 4-beat, 8-pulse measure.

and-ONE--//--and-TWO-and-THREE-and-FOUR-

Recovery of the arms and back also gets a pulse.

Then, it's rest, rest, rest, rest, rest, floating down the slide for the next catch.

Wonderfully relaxing affair, given the high rate and pace.

At 11 SPI, this cadence has me going 1:36.

At 12 SPI, I go 1:34 and hit my 2K target.

At 13 SPI, I am going 1:32, scary fast.

Lots of 36 spm for the next six months.

Time to set the grooves.

ranger

[ranger]

This 90min routine OTBike (in addition to my rowing OTErg and OTW) that I am doing each day is just melting off the fat.

Pretty extreme business.

I am already pretty lean.

I can't imagine how I will be after two more months of this, much less six more months.

Perfect.

I think I might lose _all_ of my available body fat before BIRC.

If I get down to 5% body fat, I'll be 155 lbs.

I have about 148 lbs. of non-fat body mass.

ranger

[ranger]

Without a power meter there's no way you can compare turbo to road.

As I mentioned, I already biked with a power meter and out on the road in order to compare.

ranger

[ranger]

People also know if you had proof from these workouts you'd be flaunting them in our face at every opportunity.

As I said, I don't yet have any timed sharpening workouts to report.

So I have nothing to "flaunt."

Sure.

I suspect that I'll "flaunt" the evidence _ad nauseam_ once I do.

Patience, my son.

Things are coming along great.

ranger

[whp4]

Without a power meter there's no way you can compare turbo to road.

As I mentioned, I already biked with a power meter and out on the road in order to compare.

ranger

What have you ever ridden with a power meter? A speedometer is not equivalent!