Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

We are assuming you aren't going to show up at BIRC without doing some real training.

Really?

I am entered in BIRC 2010. Check the entrants list for 55s lwts.

I already have hotel reservations and flights.

I am doing 3.5 hours of quality training a day to prepare, rowing both OTErg and OTW, in addition to 90min a day of cross-training on my bike to make weight.

I am in _great_ shape.

You think that there are 60-year-olds who are doing more--and better--training to prepare for BIRC?

Who?

ranger

[macroth]

You're not 60, you dimwit. That's why you're registered in the 55-59 category.

As for preparing well to race at BIRC, when do you plan to start your sharpening?

[ranger]

People are simply asking you to post the results of workouts that you have to be doing if you really plan to race at BIRC.

I'm happy to.

If and when I do them, I will post the results.

I didn't do any of these workouts in 2006 and still pulled 6:29.7.

But I assume, as you do, that if I do these workouts, I will be able to do much better than that.

The present 55s lwt BIRC championship record is mine at 6:42.

My prediction for BIRC 2010 is a lwt 6:20.

That would be under both the 50s and the 40s lwt BIRC championships records.

At 60, I would outrow Caviston when he was 40.

That has a certain satisfying sound to it.

ranger

[hjs]

People are simply asking you to post the results of workouts that you have to be doing if you really plan to race at BIRC.

I'm happy to.

If and when I do

I didn't do any ...........and still pulled

But I assume, as you do, that if I do these workouts, I will be able to do much better

record is mine

My prediction is a lwt

That would be

At 60, I would


ranger

Sure, all kinds of things--different line, turning around, etc.

By my speed coach, the three loops were .

I think ................... is fine.

if not, it is plenty close

I am just a beginner

I have never raced

I am just learning to row.

Rough estimates are fine

I am getting better every day.

The best thing I can do not worry about time/speed

I need to do

I will try ................... end of the month.

I just need

ranger

[aharmer]

If and when I do them, I will post the results.

Interesting. Within hours of each other you post the absolute need to do workouts such as 4x2000 and/or 8x500 to be able to achieve your goals, and then tell us "if and when" you do them. The truth is you are doing these things in an attempt to sharpen. You will never post them because the times are nowhere near where you claim they will be. You will claim having never done them because you can't post average results. When you pull a fully sharpened 6:40 or 6:45 you can claim it was done with no preparation, allowing you to keep up the charade for another several months.

Do you really think we'll believe you're going over to BIRC with nothing but biking, OTW playtime and rowing with breaks on the erg for an hour a day as your preparation? Seven weeks from now what will your excuse be for doing nothing more than lackadaisical rowing with breaks before your last chance to break the WR that consumes you?

[aharmer]

I already have hotel reservations and flights.

That hasn't stopped you from not flying to an event in the past.

That hasn't stopped you from signing up for an event, showing up at the event, then deciding not to race.

That hasn't stopped you from signing up for an event, showing up at the event, starting the race, then handling down halfway through and quitting.

How could anybody ever question your intentions?

[nharrigan]

....allowing you to keep up the charade for another several months.

FYI, this charade is permanent.

He is just a few days short of 70 and can already smash that "WR" by leagues.

[kini62]

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ranger

So you DO use a device to assist in your drinking.

[chgoss]

Then why bother predicting any piece? Given your record there is *always* something that means you can't attempt the piece, so why bother ever predicting any of them?

O.K.
I won't predict them.
I will just cite my goals, ...

...
My prediction for BIRC 2010 is a lwt 6:20.
....

at some level, you have to be aware of your compulsive need to do this.. right?

[Bob S.]

at some level, you have to be aware of your compulsive need to do this.. right?

It is getting him plenty of attention. He doesn't really need anything else.

Bob S.

[ranger]

Interesting. Within hours of each other you post the absolute need to do workouts such as 4x2000 and/or 8x500 to be able to achieve your goals, and then tell us "if and when" you do them.

I won't do them if I don't think that it is possible or productive. I can't imagine that this will happen, but who knows? I didn't do these things for the last seven years.

The truth is you are doing these things in an attempt to sharpen.

I sure hope so, but who knows?

You will never post them because the times are nowhere near where you claim they will be. You will claim having never done them because you can't post average results.

No. If I do the sessions, I'll post the results.

When you pull a fully sharpened 6:40 or 6:45 you can claim it was done with no preparation, allowing you to keep up the charade for another several months.

If I don't sharpen before BIRC, sure, I'll try to sharpen before WIRC.

Do you really think we'll believe you're going over to BIRC with nothing but biking, OTW playtime and rowing with breaks on the erg for an hour a day as your preparation?

I suspect that the 3.5 hours of physical work I do every day would overwhelm you. It isn't slight. On the other hand, as you point out, and I concur, it isn't very appropriate at this time. I need to sharpen to do my best. If I sharpen hard for a couple of months, I'll pull about a dozen seconds faster over 2K. So, if I don't sharpen, I'll probably pull 6:32. If I sharpen, I'll pull 6:20.

Seven weeks from now what will your excuse be for doing nothing more than lackadaisical rowing with breaks before your last chance to break the WR that consumes you?

Well, since 6:32 beats the hell out of the 55s lwt WR, no excuses will be necessary. I will be the WR holder. I will break the 55s lwt WR by six seconds, even though I am 59, and without even preparing for it. Then again, if this happens, I'll be disappointed in myself for not getting the lead out of my ass and doing what I need to do to row my best.

ranger

[ranger]

Then why bother predicting any piece? Given your record there is *always* something that means you can't attempt the piece, so why bother ever predicting any of them?

O.K.
I won't predict them.
I will just cite my goals, ...

...
My prediction for BIRC 2010 is a lwt 6:20.
....

at some level, you have to be aware of your compulsive need to do this.. right?

Dang.

There I go again...

being human, rather than an android.

Sorry.

Humans don't just live in the present. They remember the past, project a future, and imagine possibilities that stand out of time entirely, as ideals. It is impossible not to do so.

ranger

[aharmer]

Okay, we may be getting somewhere. At BIRC in 8 1/2 weeks the worst case scenario is 6:32, if you do no sharpening between now and then. What happens if you pull 6:45 or 6:50...what would be the cause of this difference?

The other question I have is why would a guy who admittedly enjoys exercising for 4 hours or more every day be too lazy (you phrased it as getting the lead out) to sharpen in his last attempt to break a WR he's been chasing for 5 years. It simply doesn't add up. Give this your best shot, don't half ass it in fear of not hitting the ultimate goal.

[ranger]

Give this your best shot, don't half ass it in fear of not hitting the ultimate goal.

Thanks for the pep talk.

I'm hearin' ya.

And I'm with ya.

The intention is to do my best.

Yes, and the intention is to sharpen hard.

Everything is coming along great.

ranger

[ranger]

BTW, with the vegetation clearing out of the Huron River, I can now do a continuous 5.2K loop from the railroad bridge upstream from Foster Bridge down to Barton Dam and back, hugging the shore in a wide turn at the dam end of Barton Pond.

So, now, with my Speedcoach properly calibrated, and having some open water, I can start timing myself around these loops.

Getting to 2:10 pace, for instance, would be a solid accomplishment for me.

I have to go under Foster Bridge twice on each loop, so that is good practice for head races, too.

For 5.2K, 2:10 pace is about 22:30.

ranger