Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

no human being can row at constant pace/rating for an hour while HR stays flat at 70% of HRR

Sure they can.

Close enough.

ranger

[ranger]

Where's that 5k screenshot showing 175 bpm?

No need to worry about the 175 bpm.

Last year, I saw 185 bpm--and not from a maximal effort.

My maxHR, I presume, is still 190 bpm.

ranger

[chgoss]

Rich: every year it's the same thing with you, every single year..
"This is the year I've been preparing for, this is the year I redeem myself, I'm going to smash world records!"
In the month's that preceed the smash, you confidently posture.. The forum folks demand to see some kind of timed workout that would indicate you are indeed at the level you claim..
You evade all those demands, instead providing your own "data" based on your extrapolations..

first race shows up, you fail to go sub 7.
second race shows up a couple weeks later, you perhaps squeak under 7.
1 or 2 more races and you get a sub 6:45 result.

At that point, you claim the sub 6:45 was done "without really trying", with out "any preparation". after all you say, "I never did any timed workouts" (which is of course what the form was demanding, and you were evading all along).

and thus starts the sequence for another year.

At some point, doesnt your mind become aware of the state it's in? Dont you at some point realize that you refuse to do timed pieces so that you can point to that later on as an excuse for missing your predictions by orders of magnitude?

there is a much better way Rich, life doesnt have to be like this...

[ranger]

The forum folks demand to see some kind of timed workout that would indicate you are indeed at the level you claim.

There will be plenty of timed workouts as I sharpen over the next six months.

No need to be impatient.

ranger

[ranger]

this is the year I redeem myself

"Redeem myself"?

From what?

Even though I am now 59, I have had the best time in the 55s lwts for the last two years, without even preparing to race.

Last year, no one my age and weight came within 20 seconds of my 2K, even though I didn't prepare to race.

For my age and weight, I pulled WR pace for 2K, without even preparing for it.

I don't see anything in need of "redemption."

I am the best for my age and weight by a country mile.

I am out here entirely on my own.

From my 6:41 last year, sharpening alone will get me a dozen seconds, to sub-6:30.

Then rowing well at low drag (118 df.) will get me quite a bit more, I think.

Decline with age will be minimal.

ranger

[NavigationHazard]

no human being can row at constant pace/rating for an hour while HR stays flat at 70% of HRR

Sure they can. Close enough. ranger

No they can't. Not without stretching the definitions of "constant" and "flat." Either HR will rise automatically from cardiac drift during constant exercise of that intensity/duration, or else if HR remains constant than output must deteriorate. True, hamsters like yourself may be excluded.

As for your allegedly seeing 185 bpm on an erg last year, no you didn't. Not unless it was a spurious reading or a tachycardia. Where's that 5k screenshot showing 175 bpm again? Fraud.

And as for redeeming yourself, cans need to be cleaned before placement for recycling. Better lay on some more prune juice and get out the irrigator.

[ranger]

hamsters like yourself may be excluded

Yea.

Didn't think of that.

Perhaps _that's_ it.

ranger

[Citroen]

The forum folks demand to see some kind of timed workout that would indicate you are indeed at the level you claim.

There will be plenty of timed workouts as I sharpen over the next six months.

There IS a timed workout EVERY time you sit on the erg and haul anchor (unless the batteries go flat or there are other technical faults), but you won't post them on the logbook with IND_V and you won't post screenshots. To do that would reveal how far away from the impossible 13 spi (whatever that means) that your "training" has taken you.

Time to shoot your coach and employ someone more competent.

[Citroen]

Here's when we last discussed Ranger's insistence of a "constant" and "flat" heart rate on 10th August 2010.

Can someone please explain "Steady State" heart rate to a newbie like me please ?

We've discussed this with the idiot before.

Steady state for what variables? HR? Pace? Stroke rate?

All of the above.

ranger

There's no such thing as steady state for all three at 1:48@23spm for you - if nothing else your HR will drift upwards as you lose liquid through that "lovely sweating" that create the pool on your garage floor. You can't avoid that, that's physiology 101.

Oh, sure.

There will be a little drift.

My average HR for a FM, though, will be 155 bpm, and my HR will never be above 165 bpm during the row.

ranger

Hand's up, who can spot the inconsistency between Ranger's consecutive posts.

[chgoss]

The forum folks demand to see some kind of timed workout that would indicate you are indeed at the level you claim.

There will be plenty of timed workouts as I sharpen over the next six months.
No need to be impatient.ranger

Sigh... no there wont...
Every year you say there will be reported timed pieces before you race. There never is.
The reason there isnt is two fold:
- the timed piece would never line up with the wild extrapolations that you do to arrive at the 6:16 prediction.
- not reporting a timed piece allows you to say you "werent even prepared"

I cant imagine how your mind allows you to apparently not be consciously aware of the plainly obvious..

there's a better way rich..

[ranger]

To do that would reveal how far away from the impossible 13 spi (whatever that means) that your "training" has taken you.

"Far away"?

"Impossible"?

These are all unfounded assumptions.

I am now rowing at 12-13 SPI at all times.

This is not at all impossible.

I have already done it for 2K (6:29.7) back in 2006, without even preparing for it, up from 10.5 SPI in 2003.

I am now much better than I was in 2006.

In particular, I now row with good OTW form at full slide and low drag (118 df.).

I have learned how to use my legs.

ranger

[ranger]

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[ranger]

There IS a timed workout EVERY time you sit on the erg

No there isn't, unless you call it that.

To train, we use the machine; the machine doesn't use us.

The pattern of times that you do in a training session has very little to do with its purpose or success.

Training is an opportunity to get better.

You get getter by overcoming your weaknesses.

Racing your training never makes you better.

So, if you want to succeed, turn off the clocks and get to work on what counts.

ranger

[NavigationHazard]

So turn off your mouth and quit boasting about timed workouts you're not actually doing. And while you're at it, quit fabricating hr results for non-existent workouts.

Fraud.

[ranger]

So turn off your mouth and quit boasting about timed workouts you're not actually doing. And while you're at it, quit fabricating hr results for non-existent workouts.

Fraud.

Timed workouts?

What timed workouts have I boasted of doing?

ranger