Ranger's training thread

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » September 7th, 2010, 5:29 am

Steve G wrote:Why should we believe you will actually do it?
Believe what you want.

It's a free world.

I am just training, and talking about it here.

Lots of rowing this morning at 25-26 spm and 12-13 SPI.

Stroke feels great.

118 df.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by hjs » September 7th, 2010, 5:35 am

ranger wrote:
ranger wrote:
rjw wrote:What, exactly, do you mean - "I didn't even have any pedals--much less toe straps"?
I just had the bars that the pedals attach to.

No pedals themselves.

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The pic was already supplied. If you missed it, so it goes.

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Supplied? you mean you dreamt it :lol: We can,t see you dreams dangy. We only see facts :twisted:

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by APM » September 7th, 2010, 5:46 am

ranger wrote:I really like my training routine now.

A triple session!

OTErg, OTBike, OTW

I would like to get to 90min of each.

That would be 4.5 hours of physical work--every day.

I don't take rest days.

I eat breakfast after erging, and I take a break for an hour or so after biking.

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And yet you can't complete 2k on the Erg without breaks. Weird.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » September 7th, 2010, 6:01 am

APM wrote:And yet you can't complete 2k on the Erg without breaks?
Who said that?

Last year, no one my age and weight came within 20 seconds of my 2K (a lwt 6:41).

For my age (59) and weight (lightweight), I pulled WR pace (the 60s lwt WR is 6:42)--at max drag, without even preparing for it (with anaerobic work).

Fully prepared and rowing well (13 SPI) at low drag (118 df.), I think I will pull 6:20 at BIRC 2010.

That will be 4 seconds under the 60s hwt WR and 50s lwt WR, 8 seconds under my pb set seven years ago, 18 seconds under the 55s lwt WR, and 22 seconds under the 60s lwt WR.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by hjs » September 7th, 2010, 6:20 am

ranger wrote:
APM wrote:And yet you can't complete 2k on the Erg without breaks?
Who said that?

Last year, no one my age and weight came within 20 seconds of my 2K (a lwt 6:41).

For my age (59) and weight (lightweight), I pulled WR pace (the 60s lwt WR is 6:42)--at max drag, without even preparing for it (with anaerobic work).

Fully prepared and rowing well (13 SPI) at low drag (118 df.), I think I will blablabla.

That will be blblabla seconds under the 60s hwt WR and 50s lwt WR, bla seconds under my pb set seven years ago, blablabla seconds under the 55s lwt WR, and bla seconds under the 60s lwt WR.

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leadville wrote:Your past performance predicts another year of complete and utter failure to meet any of your stated goals.
Thanks for that, coach.

Sure, I'll probably fail to reach my goals.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by APM » September 7th, 2010, 10:34 am

ranger wrote:
APM wrote:And yet you can't complete 2k on the Erg without breaks?
Who said that?

Last year, no one my age and weight came within 20 seconds of my 2K (a lwt 6:41).

For my age (59) and weight (lightweight), I pulled WR pace (the 60s lwt WR is 6:42)--at max drag, without even preparing for it (with anaerobic work).

Fully prepared and rowing well (13 SPI) at low drag (118 df.), I think I will pull 6:20 at BIRC 2010.

That will be 4 seconds under the 60s hwt WR and 50s lwt WR, 8 seconds under my pb set seven years ago, 18 seconds under the 55s lwt WR, and 22 seconds under the 60s lwt WR.

ranger
On your last pathetic attempt to break the 55-59 WR at a satellite event earlier in the year, you couldn't even finish a 2k, whilst rowing with breaks.

Maybe start on finishing this in one go, before gesticulating over a 'potential' marathon time.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by lancs » September 7th, 2010, 10:35 am

ranger wrote:A triple session!

OTErg, OTBike, OTW

I would like to get to 90min of each.

That would be 4.5 hours of physical work--every day.
I've often thought you must get through some serious refuelling to be doing the amount of exercise you do yet still be above weight. The calorific load of alcohol is a pain, uh?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by lancs » September 7th, 2010, 10:41 am

ranger wrote:In 2003, I did 10K @ 1:45.
No, you didn't.

Why is it you feel the need to tell lies on a daily basis?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by bloomp » September 7th, 2010, 11:13 am

Could we please abandon this? Really, what does this get any of us intelligent people? Frustration? Anger?
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by kini62 » September 7th, 2010, 12:08 pm

ranger wrote:[

"Quoted as saying.."?

No.

I also posted a digipic here of my pedal-less bike.

So, now, it's not just talk.

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Which proves what? I can take a "digipic" of my bike after I take off the pedals and then make some absurd claim too. It proves nothing.

Nothing as in any proof of anything you say.

And really, 1 hour erg, 1 hour OTW (plus transport time etc...) and 1 hour on your pedalless bike, that's about 3 1/2 hours or "real" time.

In Ranger time taking into account breaks every 2 minutes on the erg to have another shot, make another inane forum post, taking into account breaks every 2 minutes on the water and taking into account breaks every 2 minutes on the bike to bandage up your bloody shins from trying to bike on your "pedalless" bike we're talking more like 7 hours of "real" time.

Now you want to increase actual exercise time to 4.5 hours total which of course would mean a real time of 9 hours plus. Of course you would be able to do that since you don't work. :lol:

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ausrwr » September 7th, 2010, 12:52 pm

bloomp wrote:Could we please abandon this? Really, what does this get any of us intelligent people? Frustration? Anger?
Amusement, Paul. Jollity, Frivolity. And it's the last chance in the world to emulate our predecessors who used to pay to go into Bedlam and poke the inmates.

Even better, we get to do it for free.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by chgoss » September 7th, 2010, 3:23 pm

bloomp wrote:Could we please abandon this? Really, what does this get any of us intelligent people? Frustration? Anger?
Those courageous souls that daily battle irrationality and insanity here do so as the last and greatest bulwark of civilization and reason.. Fighting the good fight to drag our tortured hero back from the brink, back from the abyss of madness.

Either that, or we're bored..

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » September 7th, 2010, 5:01 pm

lancs wrote:
ranger wrote:In 2003, I did 10K @ 1:45.
No, you didn't.

Why is it you feel the need to tell lies on a daily basis?
Well, 9K. Pretty much the same.

A favorite sharpening workout of mine back in 2003 was to do 1:45 pace as long as I could--over and over.

Eventually, I got to 9K.

Now, I need to do the same with 1:42.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » September 7th, 2010, 5:10 pm

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by aharmer » September 7th, 2010, 5:15 pm

ranger wrote:
lancs wrote:
ranger wrote:In 2003, I did 10K @ 1:45.
No, you didn't.

Why is it you feel the need to tell lies on a daily basis?
Well, 9K. Pretty much the same.

A favorite sharpening workout of mine was to do 1:45 pace as long as I could--over and over.

Eventually, I got to 9K.

Now, I need to do the same with 1:42.

ranger
So why the absolute insistence on lying? Why not say you did 9k? If it's pretty much the same, and you feel compelled to lie, why not say 8k? And nobody believes you did the 9k either. I have an idea...tomorrow when you do your 1:42 for as long as you can, on your way to 10k someday in the future, post a screenshot showing us how long you made it. That will tell us how close you are to your lofty ambitions. Any reason in the world you couldn't do that tomorrow?

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