Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

rom my blog:
2k paddle
then
01 Sep
7:42 am
2k in 8:10.6 @ 27.5 spm = 2:02.6 pace & 223 strokes (right on 5k head race pace)

then

01 Sep
7:52 am
1k in 4:10.0 @ 25 spm = 2:04.9 pace & 104 strokes (was going to accept 2:10 pace)
I was working on smoothing out form that wasn't evident in the opening 2k

then

01 Sep
8:00 am
1k in 4:01.6 @ 27.5 spm = 2:00.7 pace & 109 strokes (finished stronger)

Nice ones.

I stroke right about the same now.

7.5 SPI

But unlike Byron, I am still discovering how to row, getting better and better.

I am not just delighting in skillful (or at least, supposedly skillful) performance.

So there isn't much reason for me to do timed intervals OTW.

Steady distance work is more useful.

ranger

[Byron Drachman]

He has never coached anyone successfully.

True. In fact the first sentence in the PM I was going to send you was a reminder that I am neither an expert nor a coach. I was simply going to pass along some tips and drills that I found helpful, and that you might have also find helpful, in dealing with some common issues that most beginners, including me, deal with. However, message received loud and clear, as they say. I have deleted the offending PM and you will not hear from me again.

[ranger]

I would imagine Byron has a wealth of knowledge that could be useful to you.

Why do you imagine that?

Byron isn't a rower, has no history in rowing, has never coached anyone, and as far as I can tell, knows nothing much about it that anyone else couldn't pick up just as easily with a little reading and observing.

ranger

[ranger]

He has never coached anyone successfully.

True. In fact the first sentence in the PM I was going to send you was a reminder that I am neither an expert nor a coach. I was simply going to pass along some tips and drills that I found helpful, and that you might have also find helpful, in dealing with some common issues that most beginners, including me, deal with. However, message received loud and clear, as they say. I have deleted the offending PM and you will not hear from me again.

Thanks.

I don't have any interest in what you think about my rowing.

I did indeed enjoy the tour of the Grand, though, and had a _very_ nice time.

I enjoyed meeting you and your friends, and I enjoyed our paddle.

That is what I came up to Lansing for, not anything else.

My plan is to come to Lansing at least once a weekend over the next six weeks in order to do the Head of the Grand course--repeatedly.

I think doing the course in a rate pyramid would be useful--first at 22 spm, then at 23 spm, then at 24 spm, then at 25 spm, then at 26 spm, then at 27 spm, then at 28 spm, then at 29 spm, then at 30 spm.

ranger

[leadville]

rangerboy, one of the best coaches in the history of US Rowing never pulled a stroke. Alan Rosenberg. One of the best coaches I ever had was a former Yale Cox, Jay Printzlau. Many of the East German coaches never rowed.

There is no evidence that Byron Drachman has any relation to these people or their accomplishments.

He has never coached anyone successfully.

And Byron _does_ row--albeit badly.

So your parallel is more a complement than an analog.

ranger

Your conduct is reprehensible. Byron invites you to row, says nice things about you, even defends your errant steering, and you insult and demean him.

As a matter of fact, Byron does know quite a bit about sculling, is a keen observer, and has a good way of communicating. I've met him and sculled with him, and came away impressed with his knowledge.

And, you moron, you specifically said:

"Coaches should know how to row first, no?

And I am a bit more demanding than that.

I think that coaches should actually be good at rowing.
ranger

You are despicable.

[ranger]

As a matter of fact, Byron does know quite a bit about sculling, is a keen observer, and has a good way of communicating. I've met him and sculled with him, and came away impressed with his knowledge.

Yikes.

You must be deaf, dumb, and blind.

ranger

[ranger]

you insult and demean him.

The truth is not insulting and demeaning.

It's just the truth.

No way to get around it, really.

Truth will out.

If Byron learns to row well, then the truth will change.

We can say truthfully: "Byron rows well."

I think that even a modest measure of rowing well would be doing a 5K OTW in 20:00.

At the moment, I suspect that Byron is 30 seconds per 500m from that.

So as I see these things, he has quite a bit of practicing to do before he demonstrates his competence.

ranger

[leadville]

you insult and demean him.

The truth is not insulting and demeaning.

It's just the truth.

No way to get around it, really.

Truth will out.

ranger

And the truth is, you're scum.

[jliddil]

There really is some strange psychology at work in this thread.

That is an understatement

[lancs]

Truth will out.

Talking of which, how did your 2k trial go today?

I'm thinking somewhere around the 6:45 mark. A mere paddle for a sub-6:20 man like you, eh?

[ranger]

Truth will out.

Talking of which, how did your 2k trial go today?

I'm thinking somewhere around the 6:45 mark. A mere paddle for a sub-6:20 man like you, eh?

I am delighted with my rowing, both OTW and off.

On the erg, I am now pulling 13 SPI, right on the money.

At 13 SPI,

26 spm is the 60s lwt 2K WR.

28 spm is the 55s lwt 2K WR.

30 spm is the 50s lwt 2K WR and the 60s hwt 2K WR.

32 spm is the 40s lwt 2K WR and the 55s hwt 2K WR.

Started doing intervals at 32 spm today.

Three months of sharpening until BIRC.

Then three more months of sharpening until WIRC.

118 df.

ranger

[ranger]

you insult and demean him.

The truth is not insulting and demeaning.

It's just the truth.

No way to get around it, really.

Truth will out.

ranger

And the truth is, you're scum.

Think what you want about me, for whatever reason.

Trouble is, what you think of me doesn't change the truth about Byron's rowing or your misrepresentation of it here.

Your fuzzy feeling for Byron doesn't improve his rowing a whit.

ranger

[ranger]

Byron doesn't need to learn to row smoothly so that he doesn't slow his boat down.

He needs to learn how to leverage effectively in order to speed his boat up.

Both things are needed if you are going to go fast in a 1x.

ranger

[lancs]

Talking of which, how did your 2k trial go today?

I'm thinking somewhere around the 6:45 mark. A mere paddle for a sub-6:20 man like you, eh?

I am delighted with my rowing, both OTW and off.

On the erg, I am now pulling 13 SPI, right on the money.

Ah, I see.

Still rowing with breaks.

Not man enough to row any kind of trial?

[nysaag]

Ranger, the nay-doer, will never publish his workouts.
Ranger, the nay-doer, will never break 6:40 again.
Ranger, the nay-doer, will never pay his debt to Henry.
Ranger, the nay-doer, will never speak the truth.
Ranger, the nay-doer, will never race OTW.

Ranger will remain a troll.