Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

Hey, Nav.

How many jackknives can you do in one continuous set, say, going along at one every two seconds, like your were rating 30 spm?

100?

1000?

None?

http://www.shapefit.com/abs-exercises-j ... t-ups.html

Unlike the dude in this video, touch your toes with your finger tips on each rep.

reanger

[NavigationHazard]

I don't know and I don't care.

How many meters can you row your boat in a straight line with your haul-anchor stroke at 30 spm before handling down, crabbing, or flipping? Or all three?

[hjs]

FWIW

Kev, you fail miserably for this test try again

[ranger]

I don't know and I don't care.

How many meters can you row your boat in a straight line with your haul-anchor stroke at 30 spm before handling down, crabbing, or flipping? Or all three?

I don't know.

How about you?



I guess I'll find out next year, when I try to rate 30 spm in my head races.

If you take the catch with your legs, pushing straight back with relaxed shoulders, and finish completely with level forearms after your back is done, you are not anchor-hauling, just because you are making good use of your back.

You are just using a big "swing," like Bassalini.

What might be a good term for strokes produced with no "swing," no core or back?

Sawing wood?

Push, pull; push, pull; push, pull.

Legs, arms; legs, arms; legs, arms.

In a good stroke, there is big pry with core and back between the push and pull.

Push, prrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyy, pull.

Push, prrryyyyyyyyyyyyy, pull.

Push, prrrrrryyyyyyyyyyy, pull.

Watch Bassalini again.

You'll get the idea.

ranger

[leadville]

This sport is about respect and effort and helping - and honoring - your competitors.

Bah.

More Christian B.S., inappropriately applied.

Sure, it is good to be nice to others.

But the arts, and all sports are arts, are primarily about innovation, talent, hard work, personal expression, mastery, and high achievement.

Poetry isn't about praising those who are trying to write it but have no talent for or understanding of the art.

So art is about social promotion?

"Leave no rower behind?"

Absurd stuff.

It's a tough world out there.

If you are going to try to find something you are good at, you need to see clearly, judge well, and work hard.

Achievement isn't based on flattery.

If you think so, you're an idiot.

If this is how you coach, you're a liar.

ranger

rangerboy - wow. wake up on the wrong side of the bottle?

[leadville]

Hey Mike - very impressed with the diverse quality of your contributions here - everything from French to phys, from calculus to physics, from photos inserted to hilarious outtakes.

that's why I come back!

[Nosmo]

P.S. On my PM4 force curve, I get about 95 Newtons of force with my isolated legs in the first .2 seconds of the drive. Then the overlap with my back lifts this pressure to 135 Newtons ....

95 Newtons is about 21.4 pounds
135 lbs is about 20.3 pounds.

How many times do you need to be told that the unit is kg-f
i.e. Kilograms-force--the amount of force one kilogram experiences under normal (for earth) gravity. Newtons are about 9.8 times smaller.

Somehow I don't think even you would be bragging about how weak you are. It has been pointed out many times before you yet you still do it. Why?

And saying "I get about 95 newtons of force" is redundant and bad English. It is like saying I am "170 lbs of weight".

[NavigationHazard]

If I had a dollar for every post you've made in ignorance I'd have a dollar for every post you've ever made.



Oddly enough, my shoulders at the catch are at the same vertical angle vis-a-vis my hip sockets as Basilini's. The differences are 1) he's folded over like a banana and got his head down, while my head is up; 2) his hands are a lot higher because he's not rowing a boat that's rigged ridiculously low; 3) the span at the time on my Maas was a whopping 165 cm, which helps explain the shoulder extension vis-a-vis my neck.

Here's the respective finishes:



I'm not anywhere near as leaned back. But I am leaned back, with a total shoulder-joint traverse on the stroke of about 44 degrees. Moreover, I'm not on here offering my stroke as the epitome of smooth sculling power. I'm quite aware it's a bag of hammers.

[aharmer]

Hey Fraud, we all know you read my posts. Why wont you answer my simple question? With 8 days left before your 6:28 2k which interval and/or distance workouts do you plan on doing to indicate you're ready for your 6:28? Unless I've missed something I don't think you've posted any screenshots. You seem willing to discuss anything and everything EXCEPT workouts that you claim need to be done prior to your September 1st 2k.

Be honest, you've tried some of these workouts and there's no way you can do them, or post the real results because they would be so humiliating. It's too bad, I'll miss this thread after September 1st when your long charade finally comes crashing to earth and everybody writes you off.

[mikvan52]

With 8 days left before your 6:28 2k (snip) You seem willing to discuss anything and everything EXCEPT workouts that you claim need to be done prior to your September 1st 2k.

As this thread is all about wild predictions and mundane execution, let me make a wild set of predictions:

September: No ranger 2ks reported IND_V instead..."hard sharpening to begin... soon"

October - November: If there is a ranger trip to the UK (a big if) .. He will row a 6:46 and be "happy with that" calling it "unprecedented for a 59.xx lightweight" hominid.

December: More silence.

[Byron Drachman]

Oct 16, 2006: You'll soon see why. FM in 1:48, HM in 1:45--coming up soon, a product of this sort of training.

March 29, 2007: I am doing a FM @ 1:48 in a month or so.

April 5, 2008: I am doing a FM trial at the end of the month. I'll do my FM trial at 22 spm.

Dec 27, 2009: I'll race a FM over the next couple of weeks, before I go back to teaching on January 7th.

Feb 11, 2010: That means that within the month, I will row a FM @ 1:45 and 60min at 1:40.

July 14, 2010: But when I get the FM done, 1:48 @ 22 spm, then we'll know. --snip--We'll know the answer by September 1st.

[ranger]

As this thread is all about wild predictions and mundane execution, let me make a wild set of predictions:

September: No ranger 2ks reported IND_V instead..."hard sharpening to begin... soon"

October - November: If there is a ranger trip to the UK (a big if) .. He will row a 6:46 and be "happy with that" calling it "unprecedented for a 59.xx lightweight" hominid.

December: More silence.

No reason to run yourself down like this., Mike.

Your 6:47.6 last year wasn't _that_ bad, even if you couldn't match it in a sanctioned race.

Given that I didn't prepare to race and was still racing at max drag, I am happy with my performance.

Given my age (59), I pulled right around WR pace.

This year I will prepare to race for both BIRC and WIRC, and I will row at low drag (118 df.) with good OTW technique.

For BIRC, I will race as a 55s lwt.

For WIRC, I will race as a 60s lwt.

I usually get about a dozen seconds over 2K from 2-3 months of hard sharpening.

Not sure what I will get from rowing well at 118 df., but I think it will quite a bit, too.

Wish me luck!

RANKING RESULTS 2010

Indoor Rower | Individual and Race Results | 2000m | Men's | Lightweight | Custom Age Range (55–70) | 2010 Season

You are number 1 of 264

1 Rich Cureton 59 Ann Arbor MI USA 6:41.4 RACE
2 Michael van Beuren 57 Hartland VT USA 6:47.6 IND_V
3 Jonathan Rich 56 Winter Park FL USA 6:52.3 RACE
4 Eric Winterbottom 58 Bodytalk GBR 7:01.9 RACE
5 Hugh Pite 65 Sidney BC CAN 7:02.7 RACE
6 Robert Lakin 61 Wichita KS USA 7:03.6 RACE
7 Gregory Brock 62 Santa Cruz CA USA 7:03.9 IND
8 Gary Passler 55 amesbury MA USA 7:05.0 RACE
9 David Sutkowy 56 manlius NY USA 7:05.4 RACE
9 Rolf Meek 59 Oslo NOR 7:05.4 IND
11 Jerry Lawson 62 USA 7:06.0 RACE
11 Gerald Lawson 62 Winona MN USA 7:06.0 IND

ranger

[ranger]

In my training, I am now erging, then biking, then rowing OTW.

I do the erging and biking before dawn.

I do the rowing OTW just after dawn.

I eat breakfast between the erging and the biking.

I am done by about 8 a.m.

Great regimen.

OTErg, the 2K predictor that I will be working hardest on in September will be 60'r20 @ 1:49.

This seems _very_ doable to me, now that I am rowing well at low drag (118 df.).

60'r20 @ 1:49 predicts a 6:16 2K.

60'r20 is done at 2K + 15.

1:49 @ 20 spm is 13.5 SPI.

ranger

[nysaag]

Ranger, the nay-doer, will never publish his workouts.
Ranger, the nay-doer, will never break 6:40 again.
Ranger, the nay-doer, will never pay his debt to Henry.
Ranger, the nay-doer, will never speak the truth.
Ranger, the nay-doer, will never race OTW.

Ranger will remain a troll.

[ranger]

Ranger...will never publish his workouts.

True, at least, not here.

Clearly, what I do with my training can't be said (and accepted) here.

Therefore, silence is best.

So it goes.

You folks have successfully "policed" your forum, at least in this case.

Good work.

See everyone at BIRC.

I am now entered.

Flights and hotel are booked.

I'll fly out of Ann Arbor at 10 p.m. on Thursday, arrive Friday afternoon at 3:30 p.m. in Birmingham, and stay at the Crowne Plaza until early Monday morning (6 a.m.). I'll get back to Ann Arbor by 2 p.m. Monday. I teach on Tuesdays and Thursdays.

Good luck to all.

ranger