2k time for university

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2k time for university

Post by jonesaa » July 31st, 2010, 6:31 pm

hi im 16 going into grade 11 next year im 5'10 and 170 pounds and my 2k is 6:38 am i on track to get a scholarships at a decent school?
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Re: 2k time for university

Post by tewbz » August 1st, 2010, 10:40 pm

what schools are you looking at?
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Re: 2k time for university

Post by jonesaa » August 1st, 2010, 11:44 pm

like hoping a d1 american school...its my first year and ive been told im on my way...
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Re: 2k time for university

Post by bloomp » August 4th, 2010, 11:52 am

It sounds like you're from out of the states. I am unsure of what schools you mean, but lens rowing in the states are not under NCAA jurisdiction. D1 is not an appropriate term. The best schools are the ivy leagues which are not d1 in other sports. Washington, cal and Wisconsin are the only d1 schools that are competitive at the ira, other schools like northeastern, Boston university and Syracuse also fall under the d1 category for their other mens sports but have not been competitive in recent years.

Once you leave the ira schools, your best bets for fast 'varsity' programs would be trinity college, Williams college, Worcester polytechnic institute, and somewhere like Jacksonville or Florida institute of technology.

Club teams at Michigan, Virginia, delaware, and mercyhurst (possibly varsity but they have the best lwts at dad vail)

Hope this helps. With your erg scores you have potential, but you must be a competent otw rower to succeed at any of those schools. To make the frosh heavy boat at an ira school you will need to go under 6:20...

I'm not on my laptop so if any of this is garbled I ble my itouch
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Re: 2k time for university

Post by nharrigan » August 4th, 2010, 12:20 pm

jonesaa wrote:hi im 16 going into grade 11 next year im 5'10 and 170 pounds and my 2k is 6:38 am i on track to get a scholarships at a decent school?

You should ask the crew coaches at the schools you are interested in. I believe the big division I schools give rowing scholarships to women only. They do this to offset the men's football scholarships under title IX. And the Ivy league tend to give scholarship based on financial need alone. Still it worth asking about scholarships. It certainly won't hurt your application being a good rower. Best of luck.

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Re: 2k time for university

Post by Bob S. » August 4th, 2010, 1:51 pm

bloomp wrote: Washington, cal and Wisconsin are the only d1 schools that are competitive at the ira, other schools like northeastern, Boston university and Syracuse also fall under the d1 category for their other mens sports but have not been competitive in recent years.
What's with the lower case c? Have we been demoted?

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Re: 2k time for university

Post by peterhowd » August 4th, 2010, 2:30 pm

Based on the experiences of my step-son about 4 years ago, to be recruited to the major 'large university' programs you will need to be well below 6:20 on the erg and at the very least 6'2" (preferably taller.) He was 6', 170, a sculler, and pulled about 6:24 as a junior in HS. Very little interest in spite of several US youth national sculling titles, jr national team membership, etc. on his rowing resume. He ended up at one of the small schools bloomp mentioned and has managed to row and have a life in addition. He's very happy, I think, that he wasn't tempted by any serious big-time attention.

All this assumes, of course, you are male. Now, if you are female, you ARE well on your way to that scholarship!

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Re: 2k time for university

Post by bloomp » August 4th, 2010, 4:00 pm

Sorry bob, the caps on my touch is broken and it only auto caps some words... Of course I could not be lazy and type California and it gets capitalized ;)
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Re: 2k time for university

Post by ericredaxe » August 4th, 2010, 11:52 pm

bloomp wrote:It sounds like you're from out of the states. I am unsure of what schools you mean, but lens rowing in the states are not under NCAA jurisdiction. D1 is not an appropriate term. The best schools are the ivy leagues which are not d1 in other sports. Washington, cal and Wisconsin are the only d1 schools that are competitive at the ira, other schools like northeastern, Boston university and Syracuse also fall under the d1 category for their other mens sports but have not been competitive in recent years.
Umm, not that it really matters for the purpose of this discussion ... but..... The Ivy leagues are D1 in all of thier other sports. And for what its worth... Syracuse, BU and Northeastern came in 6th, 7th and 9th this year at the IRA (all top half) which seems pretty cometitive?

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Re: 2k time for university

Post by jonesaa » August 5th, 2010, 12:24 am

ya thanks well like i could go lightweight at the expense of shaving a few seconds off my time temporarily ya im on the line like 5'10 5'11 probably will end up 6'0 i just turned sixteen so i still have 2 or 3 years left of highschool but my coach doesnt want me going lightweight cuz he was 5'11 pulled 6:22 as a grade 12 and went to cal and got a half-scholly there and rowed in there heavyweight program maybe he was just an exception but he seems to think the height thing doesnt matter, and my best bet would to stay heavyweight .
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Re: 2k time for university

Post by jonesaa » August 5th, 2010, 12:25 am

o ya and btw im canadian
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Re: 2k time for university

Post by bloomp » August 5th, 2010, 8:16 am

Eric, those schools haven't consistently medaled at the IRA in quite some time - in fact BU frequently falters at the IRA.

To the original poster, you will not be able to make lightweight if you keep growing. By the time you're 6', unless you have some serious pudge to lose, you will be over 180 pounds. That's well off the cutoff for lightweights.

Have you considered Canadian schools? Brock University and Western Ontario field very good crews annually and you would remain within a very good national system that would put you on track to being in a U-23 or Senior World Champ boat (or even Jr WC at your age).
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Re: 2k time for university

Post by ThatMoos3Guy » August 5th, 2010, 10:24 am

bloomp wrote: With your erg scores you have potential, but you must be a competent otw rower to succeed at any of those schools. To make the frosh heavy boat at an ira school you will need to go under 6:20...
I think that for most schools to be in the first frosh boat 6:20 would get you in pretty much automatically; I know two guys who've been in frosh boats at Ivies and one had a 6:29, the other a 6:38. Thhe fact that you weigh less will also be to your advantage, if you have the same time as someone who weighs 30 more pounds than you do you're going to make the boat go faster.

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Re: 2k time for university

Post by jonesaa » August 5th, 2010, 12:21 pm

bloomp wrote:To the original poster, you will not be able to make lightweight if you keep growing. By the time you're 6', unless you have some serious pudge to lose, you will be over 180 pounds. That's well off the cutoff for lightweights.
well right now im 170 sitting a little heavy i usually sit around like 165 during training and i dont want to go to a canadian school because they have awful scholarship programs. I think by the time im in grade 12 (2 years from now) I will be hitting the 6:20s but im mostly concerned about my height if i have a good raw and weight adjusted 2k hypothetically like 6:20 or w.e. will the big schools take me despite of my height?
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