Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

Again a lie. You would pull a 6.16 LIGHTWEIGHT.

Weight is irrelevant for me.

My best lightweight and heavyweight times (6:28 vs. 6:27.5) are pretty much identical.

My 6:29.7 in 2006 at 31 spm (without even preparing for it) is no lie at all.

The venue was the Baltimore Burn.

I was 55 years old.

I kicked in the last 300m, 1:34 @ 36 spm.

Sure, 6:16 is my long-term goal.

That's what I'll aim for this fall and winter, fully trained and rowing well at low drag.

ranger

[BrianStaff]

Weight is irrelevant for me.

Another absolute lie!

You work hard on your weight before any ERG event to make sure you can row lightweight

[ranger]

Do you want to wager that I will not scull 3 miles in 20:15 in 2011?

No, not at all.

Good luck with it.

My point is not to nay-say and bet against you.

My point is that I think I will have just as good of a chance of rowing 2:13.5 pace for 3 miles as you have of rowing 2:06.

Heck, at this point, I would guess that by the fall of 2011 I will row something more like 2:06 for 3 miles, too, but I'm not really that far along to say for sure.

ranger

[hjs]

Again a lie. You would pull a 6.16 LIGHTWEIGHT.

Weight is irrelevant for me.

My best lightweight and heavyweight times (6:28 vs. 6:27.5) are pretty much identical.

My 6:29.7 in 2006 at 31 spm (without even preparing for it) is no lie at all.

The venue was the Baltimore Burn.

I was 55 years old.

I kicked in the last 300m, 1:34 @ 36 spm.

Sure, 6:16 is my long-term goal.

That's what I'll aim for this fall and winter, fully trained and rowing well at low drag.

ranger

For once be honoust, what results did you get as a heavy and what result did you get as a lightweight.

As a lightweight you mostly pulled plus 6.50 , even quit a few plus 7.00 ergs. What where you slowest heavyweight race ergs?

I bet you don,t dare to answer this.

[jliddil]

I am not a <snip> a developmentally challenged rower.
ranger

Some would probably beg to differ.

[mikvan52]

I think I will have just as good of a chance of rowing 2:13.5 pace for 3 miles as you have of rowing 2:06.

I would love to hear progress reports toward you quest to average 2:13.5.

Shall I share mine?
Today I sculled 2 x 7k w/a 3 minute rest in a cross/cross head/cross tail {squirrelly} wind. Stayed between 2:15 - 2:24 pace throughout varying rate 16-21 spm.
How many breaks do you take in a workout of similar length?

I had to take some sharp turns so I could hit launch wakes straight on and continue sculling..

Oh, and Rich !
There is a slight difference in our ""just as good of a chance" department:
I reguarly scull 2:06 pace uninterrupted for 3 miles... I haven't heard that you've accomplished even one 2:13.5.
This is not to say that I don't believe that you will (no nay saying )
You see, for me chance no longer is involved...

[ranger]

Would you go under 1:50 at a stroke rate matching what I do?

You do about 7.5 SPI, e.g., 2:13 @ 20 spm.

Sure.

I think I'll be there by next fall.

ranger

[ranger]

I reguarly scull 2:06 pace uninterrupted for 3 miles

Sure.

I think I'll be doing the same by next year.

That's exactly what will make my chances of doing 2:13.5 for 3 miles at the Head of the Charles more likely than your doing 2:06.

ranger

[ranger]

I am not a <snip> a developmentally challenged rower.
ranger

Some would probably beg to differ.

On what basis?

ranger

[ranger]

I would love to hear progress reports toward you quest to average 2:13.5.

I have been giving progress reports all along.

Listen, or not.

That's up to you.

But don't say that I haven't been giving them.

My first goal is 6:16 for 2K on the erg.

That should be a _huge_ help for a 60s lightweight OTW rower.

The next will be a combination of better OTW rowing at low rates and high.

2:13 @ 20 spm for long distances together with 1:50 @ 34 spm for sprints.

ranger

[ranger]

what results did you get as a heavy and what result did you get as a lightweight

Rowing fully trained, my hwt pb is 6:27.5; my lwt pb is 6:28.

The 2Ks I have done without preparing for them don't mean much.

ranger

[ranger]

what results did you get as a heavy and what result did you get as a lightweight

Rowing fully trained, my hwt pb is 6:27.5; my lwt pb is 6:28.

The 2Ks I have done without preparing for them don't mean much.

ranger

These pbs were done, rowing like shit at max drag.

Now, rowing well at low drag, I think I'll pull 6:28 without even sharpening for it.

I'll do a 2K trial in and around September 1st to see if I am right about this.

Then I'll get about a dozen seconds over 2K from 2-3 months of hard sharpening (AT, TR, AN).

That will get me to my 2K target.

ranger

[ranger]

You see, for me chance no longer is involved...

Really?

Doesn't seem that way to me.

Your goal is to win the Head of the Charles.

To do that, I think, you will have to do 2:00 pace for 3 miles, not 2:06, and even so, in bad conditions.

So, in good conditions, in practice, I would say that doing 3 miles at 1:55 or so would take chance out of the picture.

Even at 12 seconds above erg times, that would mean doing 1:43 for 5K on the erg.

So, let's see it.

If we don't see it, I think your "chances" of winning the Head of the Charles are "chancy," at best.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/chancy

ranger

[hjs]

what results did you get as a heavy and what result did you get as a lightweight

Rowing fully trained, my hwt pb is 6:27.5; my lwt pb is 6:28.

The 2Ks I have done without preparing for them don't mean much.

ranger

These pbs were done, rowing like shit at max drag.

Now, rowing well at low drag, I think I'll pull 6:28 without even sharpening for it.

I'll do a 2K trial in and around September 1st to see if I am right about this.

Then I'll get about a dozen seconds over 2K from 2-3 months of hard sharpening (AT, TR, AN).

That will get me to my 2K target.

ranger

The original posting....................

For once be honoust, what results did you get as a heavy and what result did you get as a lightweight.

As a lightweight you mostly pulled plus 6.50 , even quite a few plus 7.00 ergs. What where you slowest heavyweight race ergs?

I bet you don,t dare to answer this.

[jliddil]

I am not a <snip> a developmentally challenged rower.
ranger

Some would probably beg to differ.

On what basis?

ranger

You don't know on what basis?