Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

until, and unless, rangerboy actually defeats Mike (the best in his class) in a race OTW, rangerboy's claims, chest-pounding, self-aggrandizing and general BS will remain just that.

My goals, either OTW or OTErg, have nothing to do with Mike.

Mike can't come anywhere near my erg times, and I will race at the Head of the Charles next year in the Veterans race.

Mike will not be a Veteran.

ranger

[mikvan52]

until, and unless, rangerboy actually defeats Mike (the best in his class) in a race OTW, rangerboy's claims, chest-pounding, self-aggrandizing and general BS will remain just that.

My goals, either OTW or OTErg have nothing to do with Mike.

Mike can't come anywhere near my erg times, and I will race at the Head of the Charles next year in the Veterans race.

i wish you well, future Veteran! Ave, Centurion



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i also wonder why you are certain you will gain entry to the event.... upon entering just once Are you, as a sentient being, cognizant of the histories of many hominid life forms who have applied many years and not gotten in?

ALSO: Rich... might I remind you that you are less than two years older than me and that, in all likelihood, you may not gain entry to the 2011 event. THis leaves future years where the lottery process for entry may indeed be kinder to you...
There is a problem, however... I will be a Veteran then.... (ooops!)

THis brings up the question: Will ranger, master of the universe, then delay his assault on the HOCR until he turns 70 years old?

Remember! In all things... pace yourself accordingly:


(ranger pacing at 2006 race)
"This is a low-resolution preview.
Final image quality is much higher in amusement value"

[hjs]

until, and unless, rangerboy actually defeats Mike (the best in his class) in a race OTW, rangerboy's claims, chest-pounding, self-aggrandizing and general BS will remain just that.

My goals, either OTW or OTErg have nothing to do with Mike.

Mike can't come anywhere near my erg times, and I will race at the Head of the Charles next year in the Veterans race.

i wish you well, future Veteran! Ave, Centurion



http://www.iclipart.com/search.php?keys=164598&id=198


i also wonder why you are certain you will gain entry to the event.... upon entering just once Are you, as a sentient being, cognizant of the histories of many hominid life forms who have applied many years and not gotten in?

ALSO: Rich... might I remind you that you are less than two years older than me and that, in all likelihood, you may not gain entry to the 2011 event. THis leaves future years where the lottery process for entry may indeed be kinder to you...
There is a problem, however... I will be a Veteran then.... (ooops!)

THis brings up the question: Will ranger, master of the universe, then delay his assault on the HOCR until he turns 70 years old?

Remember! In all things... pace yourself accordingly:


(ranger pacing at 2006 race)
"This is a low-resolution preview.
Final image quality is much higher in amusement value"

A nice insight in the rowing with breaks routine. The breaks come in pairs looking at the chart

[ranger]

I remind you that you are less than two years older than me

Indeed.

But still--not the same age.

On the erg, veterans slow down by a couple of seconds a year over 2K.

And at the Head of the Charles, the Veterans race is handicapped.

This year, OTErg, I'll pull 6:16 at 60.

By the time your are 60, you might well have a hard time pulling 6:55.

I am also getting much better OTW.

13.5K this morning OTW, through a significant chop. I was OTW at 4:30 a.m.

Erging this afternoon.

ranger

[ranger]

Remember! In all things... pace yourself

The bad races you cite were done without race preparation of any sort.

No anaerobic training.

When I prepare to race, I put down flat splits, within a second per 500m across the 2K as a whole.

In any event, with no anaerobic training at all, my 2Ks lately have been two seconds per 500m better than yours, even though you are quite a bit younger (two years younger, in terms of WIRC).

I get about three seconds per 500m over 2K from a couple of months of hard sharpening.

This next year, I will race on the erg at low drag (120 df.), fully trained, and rowing well---for the first time.

Watch out!

My goal is a lwt 6:16 at 60.

ranger

[Steve G]

Remember! In all things... pace yourself

The bad races you cite were done without race preparation of any sort.

No anaerobic training.

When I prepare to race, I put down flat splits, within a second per 500m across the 2K as a whole.

SNIP
My goal is a lwt 6:16 at 60.

ranger

Rich
You only reached a fraction over 500 metres before the wheels came off.
Even without aerobic training it should have been a breeze, you dont seemed to have moved on since then at all!

Steve
59 64 kgs

[ranger]

You only reached a fraction over 500 metres before the wheels came off.

I have done 6:41 the last two years, without even preparing for it, pulling pretty flat splits.

When I prepare to race, no wheels falls off at all, and I hold a flat pace about three seconds per 500m faster.

I rate 40 spm over the last 300m.

So, no worry.

You can't do a quality 2K without preparing for it (e.g., doing a lot of rowing at 40 spm--500s, 1', etc.).

But you can certainly try.

That's what I have been doing over the past few years, just to pass the time, while I have been changing my technique, learning to row well, both OTW and OTErg.

As I will demonstrate this fall and winter, spending some time on technique can pay significant dividends, especially if your times have plateaued just yanking the chain.

ranger

[hjs]

You only reached a fraction over 500 metres before the wheels came off.

I have done 6:41 the last two years, without even preparing for it, pulling pretty flat splits.

When I prepare, no wheels falls off at all, and I hold a pace about three seconds per 500m faster.

I rate 40 spm over the last 300m.

So, no worry.

You can't do a quality 2K without preparing for it.

But you can certainly try.

That's what I have been doing over the past few years, just to pass the time, while I have been changing my technique, learning to row well, both OTW and OTErg.

As I will demonstrate this fall and winter, spending some time on technique can pay significant dividends, especially if your times have plateaued just yanking the chain.

ranger

Your times have not plateauted, you wish you are getting slower every year on the 2k, other distances you don,t even dare to log.

[ranger]

Your times have not plateauted

Yes, they did--back in 2003, when I started to work on technique.

In and around 6:30 was it.

Fully trained, lightweight or heavyweight, I did 6:27.5, 6:28, 6:28.5, 6:29, 6:30, 6:32, 6:32, 6:32, 6:32, 6:32, 6:33, etc., with no pattern of increase or decrease, just random variation around the norm.

Looks like a plateau to me.

In terms of brute effort, I was working maximally.

Physically, there was nothing more to be done.

I could only improve by improving my technique.

ranger

[ranger]

other distances you don,t even dare to log

Improvements in technique have nothing to do with racing, until you put them together and race with your more effective technique fully together and functioning efficiently again.

Drilling on technique is quite a bit different from racing your training.

I have already spent a lot of time racing my training, just yanking the chain--several years.

That's enough.

ranger

[hjs]

other distances you don,t even dare to log

Improvements in technique have nothing to do with racing, until you put them together and race, with your improved technique fully together and functioning efficiently.

Drilling on technique is quite a bit different from racing your training.

I have already spent a lot of time racing my training, just yanking the chain--several years.

That's enough.

ranger

You indeed still yank the chain, that's simply you main talent.

You improve nothing, you are being busy "improving" yourself so long, that is enough for a normal man to reach olympic gold.
You simply improve yourself into your grave, maybe you last words will be, 6.16 I will pull that in hell

[mikvan52]

Ah, yes, the "Great Plateau of 2003" ~~~ a full 7 years ago, isn't that known as the Pleistocene Age of ranger rowing? ??? Oh, lord of the bobble-head?

This was followed by a long period of ranger darkness where Cureton hid in his bat cave formulating the great RWB strategy which beget the series of 6:4x 2k erg performances while Roy Brook went on to pull in the 6:30's...

"Unprecedented!"

"Racing your training." ? ... you don't race at all!... and this is your assessment, not mine.

You are fully prepared...fully sharpenend and fully ready, like all the aging: to slow down.
HTFU and show us what you've got this fall... It won't be under 6:40 for 2k on the erg as a ltwt at BIRC.

[ranger]

Ave, Centurion

So it goes.

Yea.

You need to worry about those younger than you.

Then, when you are 60 in a couple of years, you can try to beat my 6:16.



Good luck, ephebe!

ranger

[mikvan52]

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[ranger]

You indeed still yank the chain

Sure.

But I am working on it.

I was doing some nice 2:07 @ 24 spm in my 1x this morning.

Delighted with that.

Back in 2003, when I tried to row in my 1x, just yanking the oars, I fell out.

Sure, I still have a lot of technical faults in my stroke.

So it goes.

What can I do but work on it?

I put in 13.5K this morning, continuing to work on it.

I will try to push that to 20K a day OTW, before I am back in Ann Arbor in a couple of weeks.

ranger