Ranger's training thread

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Citroen » June 25th, 2010, 7:51 am

mikvan52 wrote:
I love that video from a silly Frankfurter.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Carl Watts » June 25th, 2010, 8:15 am

What a great clip, that's even funnier than Rangers posts. :lol:

Talk about motivation to do a sub 7 2K, just put on on some tracks where the train runs every 7 minutes !
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » June 25th, 2010, 8:28 am

mikvan52 wrote:It seems I'm a little faster than you?... What do you think?
Nope.

Just rowing along in your everyday distance rowing, you don't do any better than 2:04 @ 26 spm, as I was doing today in my Fluid, and will be doing all summer long.

Then the issue becomes: How high can you lift the rate (e.g., over 5K)?

When I am fully trained up for it and racing, I think I'll be able to rate 30 spm over 5K.

It appears that you can't lift the rate at all.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » June 25th, 2010, 8:31 am

mikvan52 wrote: I...am fully trained. Any advances I can make in speed will have to be with form that must be developed primarily on the water.
Yes, I expect you are right about this.

C'est dommage.

Good luck with it.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Byron Drachman » June 25th, 2010, 8:58 am

Ranger wrote:April 27, 2009: I can hold a solid 2:00 @ 30 spm. --snip-- I am now ready to race OTW.

June 25, 2010: As I said, I won't race OTW until I have a good impression of how fast I can go for a range of extended distances

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » June 25th, 2010, 9:58 am

Last year, Dietz won the Veterans race at the Head of the Charles at 2:06 pace.

Unadjusted, Spousta was second at 2:10 pace.

No one else did better than 2:13 pace.

So, now that I have good equipment, my paces and rates (2:04 @ 26 spm) OTW are entirely competitive with the best OTW rowers my age.

Delighted about that.

I'll try to hold as close to 26 spm as I can in my day to day OTW rowing this summer.

Love the new boat.

The Fluid is a torpedo!

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by PaulH » June 25th, 2010, 10:00 am

ranger wrote:my paces and rates (2:04 @ 26 spm) OTW are entirely competitive with the best OTW rowers my age.
Liar

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » June 25th, 2010, 10:03 am

2:04 @ 26 spm is 19 seconds per 500m from 1:45 @ 26 spm (11.5 SPI), which I was doing this morning on the erg.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ausrwr » June 25th, 2010, 10:10 am

So you're ready to race! Great, let's see you race then.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Bob S. » June 25th, 2010, 10:14 am

mikvan52 wrote:
That clip reminds me of the day that I drove over to Death Valley to try to get in a 30' PB attempt at a sea level venue. It was early Spring, but it was already quite warm, so I needed a shady spot. No trees anywhere of course, so I had to use the shade of buildings. Unfortunately, it was still high season for tourists and I was unable to find a spot that was reasonably isolated from gawkers and/or interruptors, so I gave up and drove home.

Note: Even so, my shitty high altitude 30' time gave me more points than six of my other nonathlon entries including a 2k WR. Go figure.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » June 25th, 2010, 10:17 am

ausrwr wrote:So you're ready to race! Great, let's see you race then.
Yes.

I'll do a round of head races this fall, as I planned to do last fall, but didn't.

I am certainly better equipped to race now that I have my Fluid.

Then I will try my hand at some sprint races next year, and if I can get entered, etc., the Veterans race at the Head of the Charles.

I turn 60 years old on Jan. 25th, 2011.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » June 25th, 2010, 10:21 am

ranger wrote:As with other summers over the last seven years, this morning I did an hour on the erg, an hour on my bike, and an hour OTW.
I like this progression of activities, but ideally, I would like to double the time/distance, getting to two hours of each.

I will work toward that this summer.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » June 25th, 2010, 10:41 am

Bob S. wrote:Note: Even so, my shitty high altitude 30' time gave me more points than six of my other nonathlon entries including a 2k WR. Go figure.
Not hard to figure.

I think that times in the older age divisions will stabilize when they approach the norm of decline with age--about a second a year over 2K after 20.

That means a sub-7 2K for an 80s lightweight; 6:35 for an 80s hwt.

With comparable times at other distances, in line with this 2K.

I'll have to wait 20 years, but when I get there, I'll see if I can oblige.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by hjs » June 25th, 2010, 11:20 am

ranger wrote:
Bob S. wrote:Note: Even so, my shitty high altitude 30' time gave me more points than six of my other nonathlon entries including a 2k WR. Go figure.
Not hard to figure.

I think that times in the older age divisions will stabilize when they approach the norm of decline with age--about a second a year over 2K after 20.

That means a sub-7 2K for an 80s lightweight; 6:35 for an 80s hwt.

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In other words, when hell freezes over. :lol:

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Bob S. » June 25th, 2010, 12:10 pm

hjs wrote:
ranger wrote:
Bob S. wrote:Note: Even so, my shitty high altitude 30' time gave me more points than six of my other nonathlon entries including a 2k WR. Go figure.
Not hard to figure.

I think that times in the older age divisions will stabilize when they approach the norm of decline with age--about a second a year over 2K after 20.

That means a sub-7 2K for an 80s lightweight; 6:35 for an 80s hwt.

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In other words, when hell freezes over. :lol:
That has got to be a classic non-sequitur (i.e. ranger's, not hjs's). What do declining 2k scores have to do with nonathlon anomalies?

Bob S.

P.S. I am not in the 80-84 2k category, although I am in the the 80-89 for other events, since they don't go by half decades.
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