Ranger's training thread

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » June 18th, 2010, 6:17 am

ausrwr wrote:So, on Tuesday, we hear lots of swearing, splashing, and cries of 'Mayday!'??
Why?

I have been rowing OTW for seven years.

iI bought my Peinert26 late in summer of 2003.

Now that I have my new Fluid, I am giving my Peinert to my second son, Colin. (age 25).

Colin lives a few steps from the boatclub in Minneapolis, MN, on the Miississippi River.

Gorgeous venue.

The heights of land over the banks of the Mississippi are awesome, all along its course.

http://www.mplsrowing.org

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » June 18th, 2010, 6:24 am

This morning: hour erg, hour bike (26.8 mph).

I need to push this to two hours of each.

That should come naturally over the next month or so.

Both of these hour sessions are becoming easier and easier.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by JohnBove » June 18th, 2010, 8:37 am

Pay your debt you welshing scumbag.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » June 18th, 2010, 8:57 am

JohnBove wrote:Pay your debt you welshing scumbag.
No need to pay debts on bets you haven't lost, and indeed, might well win.

If I can row my base pace for a HM, I win my bet with Henry and he will owe me $2000.

That money will come in handy this fall.

I can use it to fund my trip to BIRC 2010.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by hjs » June 18th, 2010, 9:06 am

ranger wrote:
JohnBove wrote:Pay your debt you welshing scumbag.
No need to pay debts on bets you haven't lost, and indeed, might well win.

If I can row my base pace for a HM, I win my bet with Henry and he will owe me $2000.

That money will come in handy this fall.

I can use it to fund my trip to BIRC 2010.

ranger
ranger April 30, 2009:
Yea, time has run out
Oh well.
Don't much feel like doing a 2K, given that I still haven't sharpened for one.
2Ks hurt pretty badly if you aren't ready for them.

:D Hey hjs, any possibility of modifying our $1000 bet along the lines of our $3000 bet? :D

A time extension would be _greatly_ appreciated.
That might be a squarer deal, given my situation (unprepared!).
I need to get sharpened up if I want to be doing 2Ks without a lot of grief.
Training is coming along great--but slowly.
Too slowly, it appears.
One last cry for mercy!




Who's a little liar :wink:

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by rjw » June 18th, 2010, 9:17 am

ranger wrote:
No need to pay debts on bets you haven't lost, and indeed, might well win.
You DID lose the first bet.

You haven't paid the first bet.

hjs was nice enough to modify the second bet (which, by the way was separate, not linked to the first bet).

You have arbitrarily changed the rules of the first bet to be linked to the second bet. Likely to look for an endless delay in paying.

Pay the $1,000 you already owe as you are an upstanding "young" man.

Move on with the second bet.

Think of it as an investment of $1,000 for the opportunity to have $3,000 in return.

Actually, I don't think that the second bet is valid unless the first bet has been paid!

IFF you win the second bet then deal with it then.

What is so difficult about that?
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ausrwr » June 18th, 2010, 10:08 am

ranger wrote:
ausrwr wrote:So, on Tuesday, we hear lots of swearing, splashing, and cries of 'Mayday!'??
Why?

I have been rowing OTW for seven years.

iI bought my Peinert26 late in summer of 2003.

Now that I have my new Fluid, I am giving my Peinert to my second son, Colin. (age 25).

ranger
Very good of you donating your boat to your son. It's not germane to the argument, and you're only using it to illustrate yourself as a great (and charitable) father. You could sell your Peinert and pay Henry the money.

But nonetheless: You will fall in. If you don't, you're not trying hard enough. And a racing shell (even a forgiving one like a Fluid) isn't a stable barge like a Peinert. Which was kind of the comparison I was trying to make.

The best scullers in the world fall in, usually a few times a season. If you're trying new things, these things happen. I've seen a gold medal winner fall in because he wasn't concentrating when he took his visor off. I'm not a mug in a single, and I still fall in.

You have a LOT to learn. At this point, you'll actually be faster in a Peinert. And you will until you get some coaching.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » June 18th, 2010, 11:04 am

ausrwr wrote:At this point, you'll actually be faster in a Peinert.
No, I won't.

Sure, I have a lot to learn, and all sorts of problems; but I don't think that balance will be one of them.

Anyway, who cares whether you flip or not?

If you do, you do.

No big deal.

If you are training, you just get back in and keep going.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » June 18th, 2010, 11:40 am

ausrwr wrote:you're only using it to illustrate yourself as a great (and charitable) father.
Yikes.

Odd speech--in the extreme--as though fatherhood were some sort of distant, abstract affair.

Are you a father?

Doesn't sound like it.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by nysaag » June 18th, 2010, 12:08 pm

Ranger is a cheat.

Pay your debt you welshing scumbag.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by kini62 » June 18th, 2010, 12:16 pm

ranger wrote:This morning: hour bike (26.8 mph).

ranger
Liar. You weren't moving. And the playing card you have clothes pinned to the spokes provides little resistance.

Also, the rear wheel actually has to make contact with the RU.

Also, if you're not using a fluid trainer or rollers your "MPH" are even more meaningless.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ausrwr » June 18th, 2010, 12:21 pm

No Rich, I'm not a father.

That's something the world should be quite grateful for. I'm not mature enough for it, even at the age of 32.

But it was not abstract speech, any more than you trying to tell people how to go fast on the water without having the first experience of it.

Methinks though doth protest too much. I don't think my father would ever, even obliquely, refer to anything he's done for us to people he didn't know.

He has nothing to prove to other people about what type of father he is.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by PaulH » June 18th, 2010, 12:47 pm

ranger wrote: To win my bet with Henry, this summer, I need to do my base pace continuously for a HM.
Liar

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by PaulH » June 18th, 2010, 12:50 pm

ranger wrote: Colin lives a few steps from the boatclub in Minneapolis, MN, on the Miississippi River.
I'm sorry to hear that ranger (not for you, as you deserve little sympathy, but for your son). I hope he won't be sleeping rough during the winter as well; a Minnesota winter is no fun in a draughty house, let alone under the trees a few steps from the boatclub.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » June 18th, 2010, 1:05 pm

kini62 wrote:
ranger wrote:This morning: hour bike (26.8 mph).

ranger
Liar. You weren't moving. And the playing card you have clothes pinned to the spokes provides little resistance.

Also, the rear wheel actually has to make contact with the RU.

Also, if you're not using a fluid trainer or rollers your "MPH" are even more meaningless.
Sure, little gizmos are meaningless.

The sweat and level of effort tells all the story that needs to be told.

No need to quantify the level of effort, especially when it's just cross-training.

From my breathing, I would say that my biking now is middlin' UT1, give or take--a pretty good show.

A nice complement to my erging and rowing OTW.

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