Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

As I have mentioned, this summer, for me, a first slap at a 60min trial would be just an attempt to pb, say, a few meters better than I did in 2003 (1:48, 16.7K), with a HR of about 160 bpm.

That would be pretty impressive, really.

It would indicate that my work on technique over the last eight years has overcome entirely the decline with age from 51 to 59, and then some.

Now, as I approach distance trials, it is certainly important to do daily 60min rows against the clock, though.

Ideally, I think I should hold 26 spm for this rowing and then just let the pace and HR come out as they will.

If I can hold my technique together, that pace will be 1:46, 17K for the 60min as a whole.

HR should be in the low 160s, steady state.

Then when I think I am ready to race 60min, I can raise the rate to 29 spm and row at 10MPS with my HR at my anaerobic threshold (172 bpm).

11 SPI

123 df.

1:46/17K for 60min, especially if it is a sub-maximal, everyday affair, would predict the 50s lwt and the 60s heavyweight WRs.

1:36/6:24

It would be about seven seconds per 500m faster than anyone my age and weight has ever rowed for 60min.

No 60s lwt has ever pulled 16K for 60min.

It would be rowing right about at Steve Krum's 50s heavyweight WR for 60min.

ranger

[ranger]

I suppose this is significant.

1:46 @ 26 spm (11.1 SPI) is _nine_ seconds per 500m faster than 10MPS @ 26 spm (8.8 SPI), 1:55 pace.

2.3 SPI @ 26 spm is the difference.

60 watts

ranger

[ranger]

When Paul Hendershott was 60 years old, he could pull 17K for 60min.

MIke VB's problem with pulling 17K for 60min is that his anaerobic threshold is 143 bpm.

No lightweight of any age can row 1:46 pace, steady stae, at 143 bpm.

ranger

[PaulH]

Probably a good first step for you would be to row an uninterrupted 60 minutes at any pace and stroke rate, as you haven't done one in years.

This isn't true at all.

I have done lots of uninterrupted 60min rows over the last few years.

Liar

[ranger]

This morning: hour erg, hour stationary bike.

After I warm up, I am now holding right to 90 rpms, 30 mph, in my biking.

Nice.

Now, I just need to push these sessions to two hours on the erg, two hours on the bike, with the sessions on the erg done continuously against the clock.

ranger

[ranger]

As they start to struggle with pulling 6:50 for 2K, it becomes a question whether Mike VB and Rocket Roy can do 16K for 60min.

60min is done at 2K + 10.

ranger

[hjs]

Probably a good first step for you would be to row an uninterrupted 60 minutes at any pace and stroke rate, as you haven't done one in years.

This isn't true at all.

I have done lots of uninterrupted 60min rows over the last few years.

Liar

he proberly is not lying in this, but he never ever will show the results why o why would that be?

[whp4]

Probably a good first step for you would be to row an uninterrupted 60 minutes at any pace and stroke rate, as you haven't done one in years.

This isn't true at all.

I have done lots of uninterrupted 60min rows over the last few years.

That's a lie and you know it. Post (IND_V) and rank the next one you do, and spare us the bovine excrement about how you haven't raced one, this is all about proving you even do the form of the workouts you claim -- we know you don't achieve the paces you claim.

[ranger]

he never ever will show the results why o why would that be?

I don't time the rows.

Time over distance rowed is irrelevant unless you are racing.

ranger

[ranger]

this is all about proving you even do the form of the workouts you claim

I've proved that I do the workouts I say I do in scores of ways, including videos, digipics, screenshots, and first hand observation by third parties.

And anyway, in the end, racing just reflects training, so the best proof I have offered is my racing.

For the last two years, I have raced at WR pace, at max drag, without even preparing for it, heck, without even doing hard distance rowing or distance trials.

This last year, no one my age and weight (or older) came within twenty seconds of my 2K time.

ranger

[PaulH]

After I warm up, I am now holding right to 90 rpms, 30 mph, in my biking.

Liar

[hjs]

he never ever will show the results why o why would that be?

I don't time the rows.

Time over distance rowed is irrelevant unless you are racing.

ranger

So then you do lie, you don,t have to time erging, the pm does it automatically, and you can,t turn that off...........

And don,t say that you watch the pm, cause if you didn,t you could not see the pace you are doing, you know those paces you put down here every day, so no matter how you twist or turn this, you lie

If you know the pace you are doing you also know the time, if you don,t know the time you also can,t know the pace.

But the again again, erging under the influence or alcohol makes it difficult to tell what you really see, that speaks for you

[nycbone]

Posted exactly two hours apart:

Now, I just need to push these sessions to two hours on the erg, two hours on the bike, with the sessions on the erg done continuously against the clock.
ranger

I don't time the rows.

Time over distance rowed is irrelevant unless you are racing.
ranger

Which is it?

I've proved that I do the workouts I say I do in scores of ways, including videos, digipics, screenshots, and first hand observation by third parties.
ranger

Not in the last several months, you haven't (except for two race results). I WANT to believe in your progress (I really do!), but you don't show any evidence of anything concrete that's happening with your training. Isn't that the purpose of this thread (and the one before; and the one before that): To document your progress?

[ranger]

So then you do lie

No, ergs don't lie.

Without even sharpening for it, heck, without even doing hard distance rowing or distance trials, and even so, pulling at max drag, I raced at WR pace.

This last year, no one my age and weight or older came within twenty seconds of my 2K time.

So there's the proof.

Ergs don't lie.

ranger

[hjs]

So then you do lie

No, ergs don't lie.

ranger

You on the other hand are certainly no erg.............


When are you gonna pay your debt to me ?