The Two Types of Training

[Citroen]

Signing off now.

Just for the record though:

There are 0 days left
49 days down
0 pieces ranked

How can you say zero days left ... as long as the heart is willing and there are seconds on the clock there is the possibility of sweet success proving the nay-sayers wrong!!!

JimR

We're down to 7 hours 10mins left. So Ranger could get a 100K done and logged before midnight EDT.

He won't.

[ranger]

How can you say zero days left

Nope.

I have about 30 years.

At the moment, I am about 20 seconds better over 2k than anyone my age and weight.

If things go well, I will soon be 40 seconds better over 2K than anyone my age and weight.

I don't know whether that is ideal, but I am happy with it.

My training is coming along great, and my racing, such as it is, is pretty much uncontested, even though I am not yet even preparing to race.

ranger

[ranger]

There are about 10 people in the world that care who the 60+ lightweight erg world record holder is, and they're all so sick of you they don't care either.

I don't care who cares or not.

I am going to pull 6:16 at 60 because I can, and want to do my best.

No other motive makes much sense.

Most of the other things I do have the same motivation.

Be my guest.

Care--or not.

It doesn't make any difference.

You are just the crowd on the sidelines.

If you want to jump in there and do it too, then sure, that would be significant.

But it seems clear: You can't be arsed.

To each his own.

You folks eating hot dogs in the stands don't have much of a role to play in my project.

Watch out.

Don't drip mustard on your tie.

ranger

[lancs]

I do think it'd be quite amusing to let the Prof fester in his own bullshit. Anyone else up for it?

[Carl Watts]

I do think it'd be quite amusing to let the Prof fester in his own bullshit. Anyone else up for it?

I think everyone else has already signed off on this thread so if your last to leave can you please shut the door and turn off the lights.

[rjw]

I do think it'd be quite amusing to let the Prof fester in his own bullshit. Anyone else up for it?

Done!

[Steve G]

Time to sign off folks, let him stew in his own ego.
He was ignored for months on his UK blog, so he migrates back to this forum to feed his craving for responses.
Count me out until he logs some of those ranking times promised.
Cue...., not ready, still learning, in the fall, when I turn 60, 2003, not fully trained, not racing training etc blah blah.
Steve

[KevJGK]

Training is coming along great, but I haven't been too inspired to do trials.

So WTF was all the boasting about and how can you come out with this crap?

Training is coming along great, though.

I feel wonderful, physically.

Best ever.

Every boast of yours ends up with a throw away line like the one above.

If you don’t have the balls to attempt your boasts, why not just keep quiet in the first place?

Your behaviour to me appears entirely predictable.

Even as you come out with this little gem.

I am going to pull 6:16 at 60 because I can, and want to do my best.

You have very little chance of breaking 6:40 let alone 6:16 although I respect anybody that wants to do their best.

So for me this soap opera is now over and on my way out I would like to thank you very much for the entertainment.

I would also like to wish you the best of luck with your future training.

Stay healthy.

Maybe see you at BIRC?

[whp4]

At the moment, I am about 20 seconds better over 2k than anyone my age and weight.

That's quite an accomplishment -- there are all of 12 lightweight male age = 59 results in the rankings this year! Your mommy must be so proud of you, though the old man probably is still wondering why you didn't learn anything from your parents or your brother...

[ranger]

That's quite an accomplishment -- there are all of 12 lightweight male age = 59 results in the rankings this year!

Yep.

At my age, there are not too many folks rowing.

And those that are still rowing, by and large, can't row a lick.

That's what my training has countered--the slippery slope, the inevitable decline with age, etc.

I have documented my training in great detail; anyone can follow it, if they have the grit to take it on.

So when I pull 6;16 at 60, what Eskild E. is pulling now at 37, if no one cares, it doesn't bother me.

I am just doing it because I can, because it makes me feel great, and because it's challenging and fun.

Great reasons.

Can't wait for my new boat to arrive.

Beautiful morning today on the river.

Only down to 61 degrees F. tonight.

So tomorrow morning should be great on the river, too.

ranger

[ranger]

Count me out until he logs some of those ranking times promised.

You don't respect 2Ks?

For those my age and weight and older, no one came within twenty seconds of my 2K this year.

RANKING RESULTS 2010

Indoor Rower | Individual and Race Results | 2000m | Men's | Lightweight | Custom Age Range (59–70) | Current 2010 Season

1 Rich Cureton 59 Ann Arbor MI USA 6:41.4 RACE
2 Hugh Pite 65 Sidney BC CAN 7:02.7 RACE
3 Robert Lakin 61 Wichita KS USA 7:03.6 RACE
4 gregory brock 62 santa cruz ca USA 7:03.9 IND
5 Rolf Meek 59 Oslo NOR 7:05.4 IND
6 Jerry Lawson 62 USA 7:06.0 RACE
6 Gerald Lawson 62 Winona MN USA 7:06.0 IND
8 Leif Petersen 64 DEN 7:08.5 RACE
9 Peter Francis 61 Denver CO USA 7:09.3 RACE

Distance rows are more important than 2Ks?

Odd.

To each his own, I guess.

ranger

[ranger]

Time to sign off folks, let him stew in his own ego.
He was ignored for months on his UK blog, so he migrates back to this forum to feed his craving for responses.
Count me out until he logs some of those ranking times promised.
Cue...., not ready, still learning, in the fall, when I turn 60, 2003, not fully trained, not racing training etc blah blah.
Steve

Steve--

What did you do for 2K this year?

I don't even see you in the rankings.

And you don't have a signature line.

Don't you think you should?

It's hard to know how to assess your comments if you don't.

If you dodge presenting a signature line, you're just a troll, a nay-doer, etc.

All talk, and nothing doing.

Doesn't that bother you?

ranger

[ranger]

I do think it'd be quite amusing to let the Prof fester in his own bullshit. Anyone else up for it?

I think everyone else has already signed off on this thread so if your last to leave can you please shut the door and turn off the lights.

Well, you might first want to do something that turns the lights _on_ for you, Carl.

Otherwise, it's you who are in the dark.

To do that, you have quite a bit of work to do.

Good luck.

Hope you are up to it.

I'm in the spotlight.

The lights are bright.

Why?

I did the work.

I was up to it.

ranger

[ranger]

I respect anybody that wants to do their best.

Sorry, Kev, but you give no indication of this whatsoever.

I have not only done my best.

I _am_ the best.

Good luck in climbing the mountain.

It is a steep slope, and slippery, and in the main, it doesn't point up.

It points down.

ranger

[ranger]

You have very little chance of breaking 6:40

Not sure what you are talking about, Kev.

The 6:41 2K I pulled this year was at max drag, half trained.

I have not yet done hard distance rowing, distance trials, and sharpening, which (I would suspect) give me about 20 seconds over 2K.

2Ks aren't UT rows.

To do your best you need to prepare for them.

Do you do your best 2Ks without hard distance rowing, distance trials, or sharpening--without any anaerobic training?

If so, are you suggesting that I truncate my training for 2K because you do?

That's not very likely.

I also wonder about your lack for respect for my lwt 6:41 at 59.

This next year, it looks as though no other 55s lwts will have much chance of breaking 6:50, and only two other 50s lwts pulled better than 6:41, one the WR-holder.

That's not a bad row, given the circumstances (that I was only half-trained).

RANKING RESULTS 2010

Indoor Rower | Individual and Race Results | 2000m | Men's | Lightweight | Ages 50-59 | Current 2010 Season

1 Paul Siebach 51 Oakton VA USA 6:31.2 RACE
2 Brian O'Neill 50 GBR 6:38.0 RACE
3 Rich Cureton 59 Ann Arbor MI USA 6:41.4 RACE
4 Steven Geary 52 Invercargill South Island NZL 6:42.1 RACE
5 Bernhard Köhler 51 GER 6:45.3 RACE
6 Mouss Hammachi 51 Ufas FRA 6:45.7 IND
7 Michael van Beuren 57 Hartland VT USA 6:47.6 IND_V
8 Paul Wenham 54 Holbeck GBR 6:47.8 RACE
8 David Hosking 54 London GBR 6:47.8 IND
10 David Hislop 53 Castle Kennedy GBR 6:52.0 RACE

Here's where you are:

RANKING RESULTS 2010

Indoor Rower | Individual and Race Results | 2000m | Men's | All Weight Classes | Ages 50-59 | 2010 Season
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Place [?] Name Age City State Country Time Source [?]
1 Michele Marullo 51 ITA 6:11.3 RACE
Michele Marullo 50 Roma ITA 6:11.3 IND
2 David Gray 50 apo OT USA 6:13.1 RACE
2 Dave Gray 50 APO AE USA 6:13.1 IND
4 Chris Ives 50 New York NY USA 6:17.2 RACE
5 Steve Krum 55 Manhattan Beach CA USA 6:18.5 IND_V
6 Sergio Botti 50 Prosport Trento - Italy OT ITA 6:24.2 RACE
7 Marcus Harvey 50 GBR 6:24.4 RACE
8 Jã¸rgen Bloch 50 Kã¸benhavns Vestegns Politi GBR 6:24.5 RACE
8 Jørgen Bloch 50 Brøndby Free Spirits DEN 6:24.5 IND
10 Marcus Harvey 50 GBR 6:25.9 RACE
11 Jonathan Bone 54 New York NY USA 6:26.2 IND
12 Sergio Botti 50 Prosport Trento - Italy ITA 6:26.7 RACE
13 Mel LaForme 57 USA 6:28.4 RACE
14 Richard Cheeseman 51 Sub 7 IRC Sub7 IRC GBR 6:29.4 IND_V
15 Nick Rockliff 52 Tadcaster Nth Yorkshire GBR 6:29.9 IND
16 Alexander Chin 53 USA 6:30.0 RACE
17 Walter Updegrave 57 New Rochelle NY USA 6:30.1 RACE
18 george perrin 57 Runcorn GBR 6:30.2 IND
19 Paul Siebach 51 Oakton VA USA 6:31.2 RACE
20 Tore Foss 57 NOR 6:31.5 RACE
21 Joe Glickman 50 Brooklyn NY USA 6:32.1 RACE
22 Andrew Cleary 51 AUS 6:33.4 RACE
23 Alex Pond 51 Mississauga Ontario CAN 6:33.7 IND
24 Larry O'Toole 59 Andover MA USA 6:34.7 RACE
24 Larry Tait 53 Montreal QC CAN 6:34.7 RACE
26 Francis Garcia 54 Bayonne Sn FRA 6:34.8 RACE
27 John Mcavoy 54 Sheffield GBR 6:35.3 RACE
28 George Perrin 57 Runcorn GBR 6:35.4 RACE
28 Joe Greco 57 S. Burlington VT USA 6:35.4 IND_V
30 John Ryan 51 North Attleboro MA USA 6:36.6 RACE
31 John Hayes 50 Stapleford GBR 6:36.7 RACE
32 Thomas Hornick 52 Shaker Heights OH USA 6:37.2 IND
33 ola hjorth 52 oslo NOR 6:37.5 IND
34 Brian O'Neill 50 GBR 6:38.0 RACE
35 Bruce Rolfe 52 Kirkland WA USA 6:38.1 RACE
36 cory logan 50 houston tx USA 6:38.2 IND
37 John Randle 52 Brookline MA USA 6:38.6 IND
38 Jacob Lindegaard 50 Aarhus DEN 6:38.9 IND
39 Zbigniew Andruszkiewicz 50 Oslo NOR 6:39.2 IND_V
40 Joergen Bloch 50 Broendby OT DEN 6:39.3 RACE
40 Mike Linehan 53 Reading GBR 6:39.3 IND
42 Frans van der Steen 51 Buitenpost Friesland NLD 6:39.9 IND
43 Robert Dean 51 David Lloyd Birmingham GBR 6:41.2 RACE
43 Gary Dakin 53 Nottingham GBR 6:41.2 IND
43 Paul Lambert 51 Bellevue WA USA 6:41.2 IND
46 Rich Cureton 59 Ann Arbor MI USA 6:41.4 RACE
47 Jørgen Jensen 56 Lemvig DEN 6:41.7 IND
48 Steven Geary 52 Invercargill South Island NZL 6:42.1 RACE
49 PATRICK DUBOIS 56 MELUN VULAINES SUR SEINE FRA 6:42.4 IND
50 Graham Price 50 Newark RC GBR 6:42.6 RACE
51 Patrick Dubois 56 Melun Cn FRA 6:42.8 RACE
52 Glyn Reed 53 Peterborough City RC GBR 6:42.9 RACE
52 Johan Bielderman 56 Maasdam NLD 6:42.9 IND
52 John Stroud 55 Folsom CA USA 6:42.9 IND
55 Curt Kaufmann 59 Philadelphia PA USA 6:43.0 IND
56 Steve Roedde 55 Richards Landing ON CAN 6:43.1 RACE
57 Peter Sanger 55 werribee v AUS 6:43.3 RACE
57 Bill Tantillo 50 San Jose Ca USA 6:43.3 IND
59 Peter Aberle 50 AUS 6:43.4 RACE
60 Dave Lukasik 50 Maitland FL USA 6:43.9 RACE
61 Cary Doyle 50 Kunkletown PA USA 6:44.0 RACE
61 Paul Winton 53 RN IRC GBR 6:44.0 RACE
61 Neil Barnard 52 London GBR 6:44.0 IND
61 Ross Poole 54 Goulds, NL. CAN 6:44.0 IND
65 larry crowley 57 vancouver BC CAN 6:44.1 IND
66 Patrick Martin 54 Ba 123 Orleans FRA 6:44.4 RACE
66 Dave Frost 56 San Diego CA USA 6:44.4 IND
66 Patrick MARTIN 54 BA 123, ORLEANS BRICY FRA 6:44.4 IND
69 Paul Winton 53 GBR 6:44.5 RACE
69 Madis Lohmus 56 Tallinn - EST 6:44.5 IND
71 Milos Hunek 51 VK Smichov Prague GBR 6:45.2 IND
72 Bernhard Köhler 51 GER 6:45.3 RACE
73 Johan Denekamp 50 London GBR 6:45.6 IND
74 Mouss Hammachi 51 Ufas FRA 6:45.7 IND
75 Patrick Capdeville 54 Csa 402 Ra FRA 6:45.9 RACE
75 David Kidd 57 USA 6:45.9 RACE
77 York Langerfeld 57 Parksville B.C. CAN 6:46.1 IND
78 Noel Read 54 Melbourne AUS 6:46.7 RACE
79 Jan Østengen 55 Nittedal NOR 6:46.9 IND
80 Inge Lindseth 52 Trondheim N NOR 6:47.3 IND
81 Michael van Beuren 57 Hartland VT USA 6:47.6 IND_V
82 Paul Wenham 54 Holbeck GBR 6:47.8 RACE
82 David Hosking 54 London GBR 6:47.8 IND
84 Paul Flack 53 Weston MA USA 6:47.9 IND
85 Derek Mullooly 55 Rotorua Wanganui NZL 6:48.0 RACE
86 Bruno Toumeyragues 50 FRA 6:48.2 RACE
86 Greg Williams 59 Lake Stevens WA USA 6:48.2 RACE
86 bruno toumeyragues 50 grenoble FRA 6:48.2 IND
89 Richie Travers 56 topsfield MA USA 6:48.3 RACE
90 Christopher Lenton 59 Marlow Bucks GBR 6:48.7 IND
91 Philip Roesel 50 Statesboro GA USA 6:48.8 RowPro
92 Peter Dreissigacker 58 Morrisville VT USA 6:48.9 RACE
93 Tiff Wood 57 Portland OR USA 6:49.2 IND
94 Rod Chinn 52 Sub7 IRC Sub 7 irc GBR 6:49.5 IND
95 John Mottram 57 Xpress Cambridge GBR 6:49.7 RACE
96 Robert Harrison 53 Napier HB NZL 6:50.0 IND
97 Stephen Wade 56 Olympia WA USA 6:50.4 RACE
98 Greg Love 52 Arlington VA USA 6:50.7 RACE
99 Charley Kanieski 56 Port Townsend WA USA 6:50.9 RACE
100 Tom Cattell 55 Falmouth ME USA 6:51.1 RACE
101 Mike McDevitt 50 Somers Point NJ USA 6:51.3 IND
102 Richard Steventon 57 Shrewsbury Shropshire GBR 6:51.4 C2Log
103 Scott Pape 51 Simsbury CT USA 6:51.6 IND
104 Mike O'Dell 50 Milton Keynes Free Spirits IRC GBR 6:51.7 IND
105 Raymond Griggs 51 Woodbridge VA USA 6:52.0 RACE
105 David Hislop 53 Castle Kennedy GBR 6:52.0 RACE
105 Ray Griggs 51 Woodbridge VA USA 6:52.0 IND
105 Simon McKie 53 Rudge, Somersetshire Sub 7-IRC Somersetshire GBR 6:52.0 IND
109 Gary Light 50 East Greenwich RI USA 6:52.1 RACE
110 Gerry Falconer 52 Hollywood FL USA 6:52.3 RACE
110 Jonathan Rich 56 Winter Park FL USA 6:52.3 RACE
112 Tony Perez 52 Toulon Av FRA 6:52.4 RACE
113 Charles Bahr 51 Murray Hill NJ USA 6:52.5 IND
114 Mark Shupe 53 Medina OH USA 6:52.9 IND
115 gerrit wansink 51 schalkhaar nl NLD 6:53.1 IND
116 Greg Trahar 51 Eltham, London GBR 6:53.2 IND_V
116 Bill Riddick 52 Ottawa ON CAN 6:53.2 IND
118 Edward Ford 57 cambridge MA USA 6:53.5 RACE
118 Steve Schmitt 50 Falls Church VA USA 6:53.5 RACE
120 Tom Lieb 55 St. Louis MO USA 6:53.8 IND
121 Patrick Hamner 54 Dallas TX USA 6:53.9 IND
121 Herb Tarbous 51 Piscataway NJ USA 6:53.9 IND
123 Alain Doriath 51 FRA 6:54.0 RACE
123 Onno Hofman 50 Naarden NLD 6:54.0 IND
125 Michael Breard 55 Corte Madera CA USA 6:54.2 IND
126 Harry Edenfield 53 Jacksonville FL USA 6:54.6 RACE
127 John Powell 55 West Hartford CT USA 6:54.7 IND
128 Eric Boyer 54 Paris Aspp FRA 6:55.1 RACE
128 Michael Slavin 50 CA USA 6:55.1 RACE
130 Tony Courtney 56 Nuneaton GBR 6:55.2 IND_V
131 Francois Degrange 53 Lyon Sp - Chemin De Fred FRA 6:55.3 RACE
131 Kevin Thompson 54 Aurora ON CAN 6:55.3 IND
133 Roger Brown 53 Belmont MA USA 6:55.4 RACE
134 Peter Janholt 50 AUS 6:55.7 RACE
134 alan wisniewski 57 Seaford Free Spirits GBR 6:55.7 IND
136 Ernie Parizeau 52 Wellesley MA USA 6:55.8 RACE
137 Martin Baltus 55 Miri Sarawak, Malaysia NLD 6:56.0 IND
137 Eric Lenz 51 Pleasanton Ca USA 6:56.0 IND
139 Don Lewis 50 Canton MA USA 6:56.1 RACE
140 William Nugent 51 melbourne AUS 6:56.2 RACE
140 Rob Thomas 50 Bournemouth GBR 6:56.2 RACE
140 Don Rickers 53 St.Catharines CAN 6:56.2 IND
143 Tony Granger 52 Naples FL USA 6:56.3 RACE
143 Marc Livingstone 50 GBR 6:56.3 RACE
143 J Rampling 51 Phoenix IRC GBR 6:56.3 RACE
143 Don Mann 52 Williamsburg Va USA 6:56.3 IND
147 John Sisk 53 Brookline MA USA 6:56.4 C2Log
147 Paul Woehrle 51 Delta BC CAN 6:56.4 IND
149 Al Flanders 58 Watertown MA USA 6:56.6 RACE