The Two Types of Training

[Citroen]

Not fully trained = I am not superman yet.

Come on, own up, who did it? Who sent the parcel of kryptonite to Ann Arbor?

My suspects are Nav, Henry or Mike vB.

[PaulH]

Folks, folks.

Sure, my intentions are high.

One of those intentions was to row 500m before the end of April. I'm not sure that counts as particularly high. Another was to row 1km before the end of April. That's scarcely any more challenging really - heck, even I did that this month and I'm not erging at the moment. And yet you haven't achieved these lofty "intentions". Weird.

[ranger]

Please don't bait Ranger Folks!
He has promised to "race" all ranking distances this season, he has 3 days left, all this typing he has to do is stopping him achieve those aims
Or did he mean next season, the fall, when my stroke is fixed, etc blah blah
Steve

In erging, racing isn't the issue, Steve.

Training is the issue.

My training is coming along great.

I am now rowing well at 123 df. and rating 30-32 in my distance rowing.

Ideal stuff.

Couldn't be better.

I'll do it for the rest of my life.

Distance rowing is the most natural mode for day-to-day training.

20K, etc.

Just row.

ranger

[ranger]

Folks, folks.

Sure, my intentions are high.

One of those intentions was to row 500m before the end of April. I'm not sure that counts as particularly high. Another was to row 1km before the end of April. That's scarcely any more challenging really - heck, even I did that this month and I'm not erging at the moment. And yet you haven't achieved these lofty "intentions". Weird.

No, not weird.

IMHO, your focus is misplaced.

To each his own, I guess.

ranger

[hjs]

Not fully trained = I am not superman yet.

Come on, own up, who did it? Who sent the parcel of kryptonite to Ann Arbor?

My suspects are Nav, Henry or Mike vB.

[lancs]

Now, like Mike C., I now just need to keep stretching out continuous rows at 30-32 spm until I get to 30K.

Level 3

UT1

A UT1 pace of 1:43 predicts a 6:16 2K.

I'd see if you can get it past 3k at 1:43 pace before you start worrying about 30k.

Your UT1 training band is most definitely not 1:43 pace. Never ever has been and never ever will be.

Bad luck on not managing any ranking distances, I would've been interested to see if you could manage 1:52 for the hour. I suspect you probably could as the hwt you are these days, but sub 1:50 is out of reach for you in a non-RWB piece..

[ranger]

I'd see if you can get it past 3k at 1:43 pace before you start worrying about 30k.

Your UT1 training band is most definitely not 1:43 pace. Never ever has been and never ever will be.

Bad luck on not managing any ranking distances, I would've been interested to see if you could manage 1:52 for the hour. I suspect you probably could as the hwt you are these days, but sub 1:50 is out of reach for you in a non-RWB piece..

Nice to hear you talking about yourself.

It's good for you to get some dialogue going with your lazy butt.



Keep it goin'.

Time to pony-up, lancs.

ranger

[ranger]

This is the first time I have been able to generate good power, naturally, rowing at low drag (123 df.).

Nice.

I have learned how to use my legs (without sacrificing the contribution of my other levers).

ranger

[ranger]

What is advantageous about low drag is that the rate rises naturally, without any loss in power.

32 spm feels slow.

ranger

[ausrwr]

Thus, the WR you need to chase is Roy's 'soft' WR.

Sure.

That's exactly what I am doing, completing my training--hard distance rowing, distance trials, and sharpening.

If I complete my training, I should best Roy's 55s lwt 2K WR easily at BIRC 2010, when I am 59.9 years old.



By 15 seconds?

20?

Then I'll just train through to WIRC 2011 and set the 60s lwt WR down to a similar level.

Competitively, though, any 2K time pulled at 59.9 is about two seconds per 500m better than the same time pulled at 55, four seconds per 500m better than the same time pulled at 50.

Time takes its toll.

Historically, at least, even a 6:28 at 60 is like 6:12 at 50.

6:16 at 60...well, uh, mmmm...is off the charts.

That would be like 6:00 at 50.

It's 26 seconds under the 60s lwt WR.

ranger

Yeah, yeah, sure. You reckon you're going to get 12 seconds from sharpening. That would be 6:29. Superlative performance, but not 15 or 20 seconds better. But who gives a shit.

You're not going to do anything of the sort. If you could have, you would have. If the record was that soft, you would have flogged it already. You could do that rating 26 or so if you were as good as you say.

I'm looking forward to sitting at BIRC this year with a well-earned beer after my row (where I'll get flogged by Benton and Archer, and hopefully post a sub 6) and watching either:
i) your total absence from the regatta; or
ii) your failure to make weight;
iii) a complete explosion midway through the race as you blow up from trying to beat a WR that's "soft";
iv) an honourable performance that may well win, but sure won't be a WR
and then hearing your rationale about how you're going to race and win HOCR.

I'm quite happy to say you're an excellent athlete. But I'm also happy to say you're an obnoxious blowhard with no respect for anyone else. And I'm looking forward to saying it to your face.

[snowleopard]

And I'm looking forward to saying it to your face.

There may be a queue

[ausrwr]

Credit where credit's due.
I'm more than happy to acknowledge that Rich is a bloody good athlete.
And if he delivers on what he reckons, I'll be more than happy to acknowledge that he's a superlative athlete.

But in the absence of any other evidence, I'll still acknowledge that he's arrogant, obnoxious, and delusional.

[ranger]

You reckon you're going to get 12 seconds from sharpening.

Yep.

Twelve seconds from sharpening and quite a bit more from distance rowing, if I am patient with it.

It is going better every day.

Low drag is the key to the easy high ratings for distance rowing.

Distance targets are pretty straight forward.

You either hit them or not.

If I can rate 32 spm, I'll hit my 5K target.

These are the rates for my other targets:

FM 26 spm
HM 27 spm
60min 28 spm
10K 29 spm
30min 30 spm
6K 31 spm

ranger

[ranger]

But who gives a shit.

No one says that you have to.

If I get to 6:16, it should create quite a stir, though.

6:16 is under the lwt _40s_ WR, not to mention the _50s_.

It's under the 55s _heavyweight_ WR, not to mention to _60s_.

At 37, Eskild E. is rowing 6:16.

ranger

[rjw]

At 37, Eskild E. is rowing 6:16.

Which should give, even Ranger, a clue!

sub-note - I don't think he was sharpened for that one either.