The Two Types of Training

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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by chgoss » April 26th, 2010, 9:04 am

snowleopard wrote:
KevJGK wrote:So [ranger] why not be a gentleman?
You can't polish a turd Kev.
Actually you can :lol: :lol: I saw it on Discovery channel
http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbus ... -turd.html

but, in the case you reference, I agree, that "leopard" aint going to change his spots :D
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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by bloomp » April 26th, 2010, 9:07 am

ausrwr wrote:You know, Rich, sometimes reading your bullshit is as soothing as a warm bath.
It's soothing to know that in a world of conflict and change, your bullshit stays the same.
You're nearly there. You're still heaps better than anyone else, ever. You're going to win your bets.
You're going to race OTW.

And it's soothing to know that you won't deliver.
I still query your 6:41 this year.
I doubt very much if I'm the only one who believes that you were down at 75kg.

Actually, I'm over being soothed. I'm ready to be refreshed. And shocked. What about a performance, Rich?
Any chance of that being delivered? By the end of the month? The fall? BIRC?

You utter bullshitter. Well, at least it keeps you amused, and by extension the rest of us.
When I weighed in as a lightweight at the Connecticut IRC, I know for a fact the scale was 5 pounds under. I asked the weigh in woman and she was like "oh, it's VERY forgiving. if you want your true weight, lean forward while standing on it." So I did and found I was 151, not 146. I doubt any of the venues Rich showed up at were any more strict about it than CTIRC...

If it's not the B's, it doesn't matter. I bet he was still 169-170 when he weighed in. Kinda porky for only pulling a 6:41 :D
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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by rjw » April 26th, 2010, 9:20 am

ranger wrote:
KevinJGK wrote:Even if you believe you will win the 3k bet you still owe $1k in the meantime.
Nope.

The bets are linked.
You have a very selective memory. They were linked only so far as they were with hjs. However, they were two separate bets with the second one being made only after considerable begging and whining.
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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by ranger » April 26th, 2010, 10:21 am

mikvan52 wrote: I doubt any of the venues Rich showed up at were any more strict about it than CTIRC...
I take my own Tanita scales with me to race venues.

The scales at race venues and my scales matched weights.

There were no problems with the scales at race venues.

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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by ranger » April 26th, 2010, 10:26 am

ausrwr wrote:the same
Yep, ain't it the truth.

More of the same.

That's all I need to do in my training on the erg from here on out.

1:43 @ 29 spm (10 MPS, 11 SPI).

One pace and rate fits all.

Just Row.

Marathon training, HR about 155 bpm, middlin' UT1.

No need for low rate rowing (16-22 spm).

No need for rowing at moderate rates (23-28 spm).

No need for rowing at high rates (30-40 spm).

No need to rotate workouts.

No need for different levels of effort.

No need for rest days.

No need for different workout formats--short intervals, long intervals, fartleks, rate pyramids, negative splitting, etc.

No need for exact timing, varied rest periods, different stroking powers, different numbers of repetitions, different overall distances, etc.

Pretty simple training plan.

No?

I recommend it highly--for everyone.

:D :D

Efficiency!

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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by ranger » April 26th, 2010, 11:24 am

ausrwr wrote:Well, at least it keeps you amused, and by extension the rest of us.
Yea.

All of the 1:43 @ 29 spm is great stuff.

Keeps me busy--"amused."

The arts are ends in themselves.

Not sure why what _I_ do in my rowing should keep _you'all_ busy and amused, though.

Go figure.

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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by hjs » April 26th, 2010, 11:40 am

bloomp wrote:
ausrwr wrote:You know, Rich, sometimes reading your bullshit is as soothing as a warm bath.
It's soothing to know that in a world of conflict and change, your bullshit stays the same.
You're nearly there. You're still heaps better than anyone else, ever. You're going to win your bets.
You're going to race OTW.

And it's soothing to know that you won't deliver.
I still query your 6:41 this year.
I doubt very much if I'm the only one who believes that you were down at 75kg.

Actually, I'm over being soothed. I'm ready to be refreshed. And shocked. What about a performance, Rich?
Any chance of that being delivered? By the end of the month? The fall? BIRC?

You utter bullshitter. Well, at least it keeps you amused, and by extension the rest of us.
When I weighed in as a lightweight at the Connecticut IRC, I know for a fact the scale was 5 pounds under. I asked the weigh in woman and she was like "oh, it's VERY forgiving. if you want your true weight, lean forward while standing on it." So I did and found I was 151, not 146. I doubt any of the venues Rich showed up at were any more strict about it than CTIRC...

If it's not the B's, it doesn't matter. I bet he was still 169-170 when he weighed in. Kinda porky for only pulling a 6:41 :D

This is a nice post, Dangy boy is cheating, his best race was no lightweight one :lol:

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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by johnlvs2run » April 26th, 2010, 11:50 am

hjs wrote:No doubt he will settle this "in the fall"
:lol:
How can you be so impatient.

There are still 4 1/2 days to go, before the end of the ranking season.

This is plenty of time to break the 2k record, and to complete the other 9 events for the rankings.
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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by mikvan52 » April 26th, 2010, 11:54 am

ranger wrote:
it wasn't mikvan52 who wrote: "I doubt any of the venues Rich showed up at were any more strict about it than CTIRC..."
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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by mikvan52 » April 26th, 2010, 11:56 am

John Rupp wrote:
hjs wrote:No doubt he will settle this "in the fall"
:lol:
How can you be so impatient.

There are still 4 1/2 days to go, before the end of the ranking season.

This is plenty of time to break the 2k record, and to complete the other 9 events for the rankings.
:)
What do you predict for his 1 hour performance, John?

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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by hjs » April 26th, 2010, 12:44 pm

John Rupp wrote:
hjs wrote:No doubt he will settle this "in the fall"
:lol:
How can you be so impatient.

There are still 4 1/2 days to go, before the end of the ranking season.

This is plenty of time to break the 2k record, and to complete the other 9 events for the rankings.
:)
He may row 5.00 but still lost the 1k bet :lol: it's not 2009 anymore

Indeed time enough to row, but this will also have to wait untill "the fall"
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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by hjs » April 26th, 2010, 12:46 pm

ranger wrote:
mikvan52 wrote: I doubt any of the venues Rich showed up at were any more strict about it than CTIRC...
I take my own Tanita scales with me to race venues.

The scales at race venues and my scales matched weights.

There were no problems with the scales at race venues.

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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by PaulH » April 26th, 2010, 1:19 pm

ranger wrote: Not sure why what _I_ do in my rowing should keep _you'all_ busy and amused, though.
It doesn't - in general the folks here are pretty complimentary about what you do. The amusement comes from all the predictions you make without fulfilling them. As an example, what's the last prediction you made that you then followed through on?

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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by detlefchef » April 26th, 2010, 1:21 pm

Is it safe to say that Ranger still hasn't done anything he said he would in the few weeks since I last checked in?

Safe to also say that his stroke is immaculate and he's right on target given cryptic metrics that predict randomly amazing times?
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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by ranger » April 26th, 2010, 1:49 pm

John Rupp wrote:
hjs wrote:No doubt he will settle this "in the fall"
:lol:
How can you be so impatient.

There are still 4 1/2 days to go, before the end of the ranking season.

This is plenty of time to break the 2k record, and to complete the other 9 events for the rankings.
:)
Indeed there is.

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