The Two Types of Training

[macroth]

On the other hand, you are wrong that this extensive cross-training interferes with my sharpening.

Been there, done that.

Over and over.

No problem.

ranger

I have no doubt that you've done that over and over (the last time being 2003, I assume, since you have not done any sharpening since), which means you have never NOT done it and have no way of comparing the two situations. Maybe you should ask yourself if Lance Armstrong goes running 2 hours every day, or if any of your precious Danes hop on a bike for two hours every day during the last few weeks before the World Championships.

Crosstraining 2 hours a day is counterproductive when "sharpening". A waste of energy and time.

[ranger]

BTW, I am happy to be proved wrong about this, but I don't think that you can do 15 @ 2K @ 1:44 (1 minute rest) unless you can do 1:44 for 60min, that is, unless your anaerobic threshold is 1:44 or faster.

ranger

[ranger]

I have no doubt that you've done that over and over (the last time being 2003, I assume, since you have not done any sharpening since), which means you have never NOT done it and have no way of comparing the two situations. Maybe you should ask yourself if Lance Armstrong goes running 2 hours every day, or if any of your precious Danes hop on a bike for two hours every day during the last few weeks before the World Championships.

Crosstraining 2 hours a day is counterproductive when "sharpening". A waste of energy and time.

Lance is not 60.

Will he be 10% body fat when he is 60?

I will be surprised.

He is pretty muscular.

Lance and I are about the same size.

5'11", 165 lbs.

ranger

[Aniyunwaya]

I like Ranger's three step training:
I have tried this to a degree and it works for me
I can sift some nuggetts out of this gigantic discourse, but i have to look very hard

[TomR]

ranger does not "train."

Training means getting ready to compete. He hasn't done that, because he knows competition will show he cannot do what he says he can do.

ranger talks about training, and most of what he says is bullshit.

ranger's actual time on the erg is best described as obsessive fiddling.

[mikvan52]

* earlier today i asked a simple question of our good buddie, ranger.

Perhaps I missed the response...

Again: Which of the distance rows are you definitely going to post as an IND_V before April ends next week?

[mrfit]

I think he said he's doing all the distances including a 6:16 2k, an 11.5 second improvement in his PR.

[ranger]

ranger's actual time on the erg is best described as obsessive fiddli

Not unfair at all.

Yes, working on your weaknesses, for the most part, is indeed a type of "obsessive fiddling."

You don't overcome weaknesses unless you obsess about them.

Your weaknesses are things that don't come naturally to you--being quick if you are slow, being exact if you are sloppy, being tough if you are soft, being strong if you are weak, being patient if you are impatient, etc.

Using your arms if you prefer your legs, using your legs if you prefer your arms, etc.

Overcoming your weaknesses also requires a lot of experimentation--changes of schedule, changes of activities, coping strategies, different sorts of drilling, etc.

"Obsessive fiddling"

Sure.

That's what I have been doing.

Overcoming my weaknesses.

ranger

[ranger]

Training means getting ready to compete. He hasn't done that

[Yet.]

But I will.

I know how to get ready to race--and do it well.

In addition to all of my marathon running, I was a half-miler on the track and a freestyle sprinter in the pool.

The anaerobic training I did on the erg back in 2003 was fine.

My three WR rows in 2003 when I was 52--a lwt 6:30, 6:29, and 6:28--were all done with flat splits, with less than a second varying between 500s.

Over my lifetime, I have done zillions of anaerobic intervals, and oddly enough, actually enjoy them.

ranger

[Byron Drachman]

* earlier today i asked a simple question of our good buddie, ranger.

Perhaps I missed the response...

Again: Which of the distance rows are you definitely going to post as an IND_V before April ends next week?

I think he said he's doing all the distances including a 6:16 2k, an 11.5 second improvement in his PR.

Feb 11, 2010: That means that within the month, I will row a FM @ 1:45 and 60min at 1:40.

March 24, 2010: To start off, I think I'll do a FM at 1:48.

March 30, 2010: Before the end of the [next]month, I will do all of the races, from 500m to FM--all as a lwt.
I will do them IND_V and enter them in the 50s lwt rankings.

April 5, 2010: When the time comes, I'll be happy to give you the HRs on a FM, 1:48 @ 25 spm.
HR should be flat at 155 bpm.

April 17, 2010: I am prepared for distance trials, so the result should much more impressive, hopefully in line with my 2K goal: 6:16.

On April 17 Ranger announced that he is now prepared for distance trials, so I am sure we will see a FM@1:48 or 1:45 before the end of the month. And won't we all look like fools for being nay-sayers? Heh, heh.

My favorite posting of today:

April 24, 2010: I have various other hobbies, too--snip-- ethics--snip, etc.

from someone who refuses to pay his gambling debt and when confronted comes up with the in-your-face "I am sure Henry is a stand-up guy and will pay when he loses the bet."

[ranger]

I think he said he's doing all the distances including a 6:16 2k, an 11.5 second improvement in his PR.

No, 6:28, my pb.

I will need to sharpen to do 6:16.

ranger

[Citroen]

I like Ranger's three step training:
I have tried this to a degree and it works for me
I can sift some nuggetts out of this gigantic discourse, but i have to look very hard

You must be new here. Please don't feed our favourite forum troll.

[ranger]

My bet with Henry was two-part.

Sure, when I am fully trained, if I fail to reach my targets, I will pay the part of the bet that Henry has won.

I will have lost both parts of the bet.

ranger

[ranger]

You must be new here.

Either that or smart, good at rowing, ambitious, experimental, creative, no slave to authority or tradition, etc.



ranger

[ranger]

I don't dispute this is a great workout.

Sure, you did.

Not knowing your ass from your elbow, you shoved your foot way down your throat and called the workout "silly."

It's not at all silly.

ranger