The Two Types of Training
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Re: The Two Types of Training
All those studies, and Rich is the one who is 1st in the 2k for the year.
bikeerg 75 5'8" 155# - 18.5 - 51.9 - 568 - 1:52.7 - 8:03.8 - 20:13.1 - 14620 - 40:58.7 - 28855 - 1:23:48.0
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
Re: The Two Types of Training
You appear to have tried to scrub the archives, but not quite well enough. Here's what you wrote to a doctor who had advised her patients on birth control, you believing she had performed abortions:John Rupp wrote:Here, let me post it again for you.JohnBove wrote:Perhaps you'd like me to dig up your quotes?
Hopefully this time you'll be able to comprehend what it says.John Rupp wrote:You are mixed up about my opinion on birth control, as I feel women are entitled do as they wish with their bodies, and the same for anyone else. It is none of your business, just as what I do is none of your business.
Posted, no less, on the women's forum.Let's see, you mistreated and mutilated at least three women ...
Re: The Two Types of Training
Which just goes to show that you can be one of the best ergers age group ergers in the world and still say incredibly stupid and obviously false things.John Rupp wrote:All those studies, and Rich is the one who is 1st in the 2k for the year.
Note that 6:41 is not 6:16 or 6:18 or 6:28 or even 6:38
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Nope, I've not looked back at anything. You accused me of calling someone a murderer due to birth control, which is ridiculous. As I said before, I feel that every woman is entitled to do as she pleases with her body.JohnBove wrote:You appear to have tried to scrub the archives, but not quite well enough.
That is sad. You're trying to make up things that I said or believe.Here's what you wrote to a doctor who had advised her patients on birth control, you believing she had performed abortions
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bikeerg 75 5'8" 155# - 18.5 - 51.9 - 568 - 1:52.7 - 8:03.8 - 20:13.1 - 14620 - 40:58.7 - 28855 - 1:23:48.0
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
Re: The Two Types of Training
John Rupp wrote:Nope, I've not looked back at anything. You accused me of calling someone a murderer due to birth control, which is ridiculous. As I said before, I feel that every woman is entitled to do as she pleases with her body.JohnBove wrote:You appear to have tried to scrub the archives, but not quite well enough.
That is sad. You're trying to make up things that I said or believe, but you still can't come up with a quote.Here's what you wrote to a doctor who had advised her patients on birth control, you believing she had performed abortions
That is your quote, from a post you sent to an OBGYN on the women's forum. Do you deny it? If you do you're lying.Let's see, you mistreated and mutilated at least three women ...
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I think it shows that Rich is the one who knows what he's doing.Nosmo wrote:Which just goes to show that you can be one of the best ergers age group ergers in the world and still say incredibly stupid and obviously false things.
bikeerg 75 5'8" 155# - 18.5 - 51.9 - 568 - 1:52.7 - 8:03.8 - 20:13.1 - 14620 - 40:58.7 - 28855 - 1:23:48.0
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
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Can you read? He clearly doesn't have a clue what he's doing! If he did, he would actually understand the basic physiological tenants that govern exercise - and not fill this forum with lies.John Rupp wrote:I think it shows that Rich is the one who knows what he's doing.Nosmo wrote:Which just goes to show that you can be one of the best ergers age group ergers in the world and still say incredibly stupid and obviously false things.
It truly is a shame he cannot understand what is the truth about how training works - if what he's done so far this season is simply off his feeble-minded understanding of it, then he could do a lot more with proper coaching, technique and training.
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This is a lie. I have not looked back at any archives.JohnBove wrote:You appear to have tried to scrub the archives, but not quite well enough.
If I had gone back to change anything then it would show a date, like March 30, 2010.
I would think if someone wanted to know what I think or believe, they would ask me, not make ridiculous accusations on a forum. I am perfectly willing to say what I think and believe.JohnBove wrote:Let's see, you mistreated and mutilated at least three women ...
In fact I think you're afraid to know what I think and believe. Because if you really wanted to know what I think and believe then you would ask me what I think and believe.
bikeerg 75 5'8" 155# - 18.5 - 51.9 - 568 - 1:52.7 - 8:03.8 - 20:13.1 - 14620 - 40:58.7 - 28855 - 1:23:48.0
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
Re: The Two Types of Training
You may think that that Rich's assertions that the physiological limitations that apply to world class rowers dont apply to him, is a pretty fantastic claim,
or
you may think that Rich's assertion that he can lower his 2k by 25 seconds in 6 weeks, is a pretty outlandish claim
or perhaps
you think that Rich's claim that he ergs 10million meters a year, a daily average of 27,397m, is whack
but
I still think his claim that he ran two hundred and fifty 15K-30K training runs a year, starting from age 10, to age 45 is the absolute hands down winner. A 10 year old, running 2-3 hours a day, 5 days a week.
or
you may think that Rich's assertion that he can lower his 2k by 25 seconds in 6 weeks, is a pretty outlandish claim
or perhaps
you think that Rich's claim that he ergs 10million meters a year, a daily average of 27,397m, is whack
but
I still think his claim that he ran two hundred and fifty 15K-30K training runs a year, starting from age 10, to age 45 is the absolute hands down winner. A 10 year old, running 2-3 hours a day, 5 days a week.
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Yes.bloomp wrote:Can you read?
Rich is 1st in the 2k for the lwt 55+ division for the year, at age 59. That clearly shows that he knows what he's doing, if not perfectly, at least better than anyone else posting here. That you improved from age 13 to 18 is not relevant.He clearly doesn't have a clue what he's doing! If he did, he would actually understand the basic physiological tenants that govern exercise - and not fill this forum with lies.
How do you know that he doesn't understand how it works.It truly is a shame he cannot understand what is the truth about how training works
bikeerg 75 5'8" 155# - 18.5 - 51.9 - 568 - 1:52.7 - 8:03.8 - 20:13.1 - 14620 - 40:58.7 - 28855 - 1:23:48.0
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
Re: The Two Types of Training
That's it! Ranger is practising Schrödinger training! That's how he's going to do all the ranking pieces by the end of the month - he's already both done and not done them, he just has to collapse the waveform in the right way.aharmer wrote:Does the physical act of snapping a photo completely f**k up your training?
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Really?nosmo wrote:It truly is a shame he cannot understand what is the truth about how training works - if what he's done so far this season is simply off his feeble-minded understanding of it, then he could do a lot more with proper coaching, technique and training.
I wonder.
I am now pulling a relaxed 1:44 @ 26 spm (12 SPI) in my everyday UT1 distance rowing, tucked under my anaerobic threshold at 172 bpm.
That's right on my target for 60min.
Perhaps my "feeble-mindedness" is the problem, but I can't imagine anything much better than that by a 60s lwt.
The 60s lwt WR for 60min is 1:52.
The 50s _heavyweight_ WR for 60min is 1:46.
Mike VB does 1:48 @ 28 spm for 5K.
60min is done at 5K + 5.
So, if it doesn't disturb you too much, I will just keeping doing this 1:44 @ 26 spm (12 SPI) all year round (and then year after year, year after year) and see what happens.
I also like 26 spm in my 1x.
BTW, I am going back to my warm up routines for the summer--1000 sit ups and an hour of jumping rope--before I row.
When it's nice, I'll substitute a 10-mile run for the hour of jumping rope.
Sure, it's over the top, but for me, there seems to be substitute for this physical conditioning, especially the conditioning of the core and calves, which I use (with a vengence, in tandem) in the sweet spot of the stroke after the leg drive.
That's where the (exceptional, added, unusual) power is for me.
I now get a consistent 110 kgs. of peak pressure with my stroke, at the top of a smooth, left-learning haystack.
145 df.
Classes are over in three weeks here at the University of Michigan.
Then I am off from work.
I don't go back to teaching until September 10th, that is, for almost five months.
It is going to be in the 70s F. here in Ann Arbor for the next three days.
Delightful weather for getting back out OTW.
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Re: The Two Types of Training
The 2010 indoor rowing year is not over.John Rupp wrote:All those studies, and Rich is the one who is 1st in the 2k for the year.
There is still a month to go.
Before the end of the month, I'll race all of the events, including 2K.
I'll do them IND_V and enter than in the 50s lwt rankings.
I am at weight.
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Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: The Two Types of Training
If you can post us a shot of a 5k completed @ 1:44 I'd be most impressed.
Except you won't, because you can't..
Except you won't, because you can't..
Re: The Two Types of Training
Yep.mikvan52 wrote:do you think I should be worried about low HR?
Unless you can rate up, you won't win the HOCR.
You need to rate 30 spm, not 24-26 spm.
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