The Two Types of Training

[mikvan52]

I am interested in erging in itself, independent of its use for OTW rowing.

...at your peril.

Have you ever noticed that all the open category WRs on the erg are held by OTW rowers ? :

Waddell, Balmary, Grobler-James, Stephansen

Go to this page and look at the pretty pictures
http://www.concept2.com/us/racing/recor ... ecords.asp
I saw first hand what stroke Waddell used to set a WR on the erg... It was an OTW stroke.
I've watched the video of Grobler at the Head of the Charles.. funny she doesn't row like you. Puzzling!

( this is not to discredit your fine list of people who have done well in the the sub-categories, Rich) I just want to point out that once again you are cherry picking to plead your point

Also:
It would be laughable for You the, eff-bomber of Ann Arbor, to complain to C2 about my behavior here on this thread.. It's you who returns to talking about OTW all the time (AS YOU ALREADY HAVE WITH YOUR POST TO lancs).

Lancs--

What do you do for 1K in a 1x?

I only dispute the uneducated claims you make about the sport and correct the "inaccuracies" that dribble down your chin into your cesspool of BS.

[Citroen]

( So what is your car's mileage in inverse square Farads? )

What a good idea. That removes all those awkward conversion problems with miles/US gal. or miles/Imperial gal. or Km/litre.

[BrianStaff]

Not with words.

Just keep an eye on my signature, or the rankings for this year.

I'll list the results of my distance trials there.

Not with actions either ~ you are just an effing lying old windbag

[whp4]

Brilliant Byron.

Care to respond Prof?

Not with words.

Just keep an eye on my signature, or the rankings for this year.

I'll list the results of my distance trials there.

ranger

Ah, no need to wait, we can already see all the results you'll have worth reporting. Nice! As a bonus, your signature also includes all of your results from the years covered in Byron's splendid catalog of your "accomplishments".

[ranger]

Have you ever noticed that all the open category WRs on the erg are held by OTW rowers ?

Yes, I've noticed that.

I've also noticed that, among males at least, with the exception of Dick Cashin, _none_ of the best senior and veteran ergers are prominent OTW rowers.

Interesting split.

I might add Paul Siebach to that list.

He's not an OTW rower.

He's a triathaloner.

Interes

[ranger]

Ah, no need to wait

True.

No need for you at all.



Enjoy the popcorn.

I hear it's salty.

[whp4]

The FM stroke in the video, rating 24 spm, not even at full slide, my HR riding at 150 bpm, is as fast as Mike VB can row for 5K.

Maybe you should wait until you've actually gone through 42,195 meters with that stroke in a sitting before you call it your FM stroke. You might also try demonstrating that you can row 5k (with any of your ridiculous "strokes") as fast as MvB.

[BrianStaff]

Have you ever noticed that all the open category WRs on the erg are held by OTW rowers ?

Yes, I've noticed that.

I never wrote that - someone else did. Can you correct it please?

[Bob S.]

( So what is your car's mileage in inverse square Farads? )

Nice challenge, Nosmo, but I'll decline. It is a combination of plain old laziness and of no longer feeling at ohm with the systems of electrical units. It has been over 60 years and I rarely needed to use them except for simple applications.

(Don't drink and Derive)

I like that one. I tried to come up with a counterpart about doing mental arithmetic while erging, but nothing worthwhile came to mind.

Bob S.

[NavigationHazard]

Have you ever noticed that all the open category WRs on the erg are held by OTW rowers ?

Yes, I've noticed that.

I've also noticed that _none_ of the best senior and veteran ergers are prominent OTW rowers.

Interesting split.

I might add Paul Siebach to that list.

He's not an OTW rower.

He's a triathaloner.

Interes

None? You've got to be kidding. Carie Graves. Joan van Blom. Dick Cashin. Susan Hooten. Ian McNuff. Jim Castellan. Lisa Schlenker....

[mikvan52]

I sure we would also be fascinated (sic, sic, & sick).

ranger

(when the wrathful gets a mouthful of the grapeful)

Rich: ' Danger! Please to be getting off street ' Your scaring the horses!

Have you ever noticed that all the open category WRs on the erg are held by OTW rowers ?

Yes, I've noticed that.

I've also noticed that _none_ of the best senior and veteran ergers are prominent OTW rowers.

How would you characterize Dick Cashin?
How would you characterize Dick Dressigacker?
How would you characterize Joan Van Blom?
How would you characterize John Van Blom?
How would you characterize Bob Spousta,?
Jim Castellan, Mike Tebay?
How about Mies Bernelot Moens?
Neglect Ernestine Bayer?

Maybe if you showed up at more major events instead of confining yourself to the hinterland you'd meet some of these people.

Well, you can always read about what you can't participate in:
eg:
http://www.worldrowing.com/display/modu ... wid=324297
Re: Moens, Rindlaub, Smith (OTW mentioned)

[mrfit]

Ranger's ranking distance countdown:

38 days

[Montanaandy]

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[johnlvs2run]

Quick little drive.

Big recovery.

A little work.

Then lots of rest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6wF4tsGNYw

You're driving too hard, your balance is off and you're resting too much.

Maybe you should watch the Danish videos when you row, and do the same things that they do.

[ranger]

...at your peril

No, to my benefit, satisfaction, and enjoyment.

I am not you.

We all can only do what we can do.

We have different backgrounds and capacities and therefore different potentials.

So be it.

Those differences just need to be appreciated and respected.

Other than Dick Cashin, _none_ of the present senior and veteran WR-holders in the male ranks are OTW rowers of any note, if OTW rowers at all.

And many of them row with techniques that have no resemblance to a good OTW stroke, designed to move a boat.

Ergs don't float.

An erg is a piece of exercise equipment, little more.

Those who do well on it display a certain sort of physical prowess for their age and weight, little else.

Erging is a fun and healthful game to play, though.

So why not?

It is also a nice introduction to some of the enjoyment and challenges of OTW rowing, while at the same time being no equivalent or substitute for the real thing.

If you don't like erging, and don't respect it, then just leave it alone.

No reason to parade your antipathy here among those who do.

ranger