The Two Types of Training

[hjs]

ranger....DNF

That makes this season an exact kopie of last one.

although every just a little bit slower................ So predictable

[hjs]

Nothing surprising there. A DNF perfectly matches all the workout results he promises to post. None of them ever get finished either.

You'd think this soap opera would now be dead...somehow I can't imagine that happening.

By the way, now that the real rowers are heading outside, does the erg talk continue on the forum or does that fall off substantially until next winter?

Most years it even got worse outside the season, no races that show the truth..........

[mikvan52]

Would some one help me?

What number do I use for a DNF in an average???

7:11 + 6:48 + 6:41 + 6:51 + DNF... /5 = ?

Of courser this far better than my 6:47 + 6:49 / 2 in ranger world


My turn for a ranger prediction:

This will be ranger's last recorded and shown attempt at 2k as a sub-60 year old...

ranger readers should now prepare themselves psychologically for a major sea-change in his focus.

Perhaps he'll go after Mother Teresa's record ?

Another prediction: As a washed-up middle distance guy, he'll never IND_V for any distance over 30 minutes long as a lightweight.

[Steve G]

Whats the betting he puts a positive spin on his DNF, such as I rowed 1.36 pace up to 800 metres or something, wait until I row right through.

Dismal season Rich, New York next week?
Cue, I am on target blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

[Yankeerunner]

STILL....No sign of land! How long is it?

[Yankeerunner]

Whats the betting he puts a positive spin on his DNF, such as I rowed 1.36 pace up to 800 metres or something, wait until I row right through.

Dismal season Rich, New York next week?
Cue, I am on target blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

I predict that he will be delighted with his progress.

I predict that he will gush about how he is much better than that now.

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

[nycbone]

It is appropriate to use the median value for this data set as the measure of central tendency since one of the values is not known.

His median 2k time for this year is 6:51.

Would some one help me?

What number do I use for a DNF in an average???

7:11 + 6:48 + 6:41 + 6:51 + DNF... /5 = ?

[jliddil]

OK I've never raced on an erg. I did run road races for many years. Can someone explain how you DNF when the distance is only 2000 meters? Do you go out so hard that you completely blow up and can't even continue to row to finish? Or do you DNF to save face since you are so off your predicated pace that rowing say a 7 minute time is too embarrassing?

Having now read for the first time a season of this saga, I must say in some ways it is very sad to watch someone display delusional behavior in public.

JD

[Steve G]

OK I've never raced on an erg. I did run road races for many years. Can someone explain how you DNF when the distance is only 2000 meters? Do you go out so hard that you completely blow up and can't even continue to row to finish? Or do you DNF to save face since you are so off your predicated pace that rowing say a 7 minute time is too embarrassing?

Having now read for the first time a season of this saga, I must say in some ways it is very sad to watch someone display delusional behavior in public.

JD

JD
I dont see how you can blow up completely and not finish, seems inconceivable to me.
Same in road races, if you go off too hard your race suffers, but you can still throttle back and finish.
I have only failed to finish 2 road races in 30 years of running, both of them I had been ill and perhaps shouldn't have started.
Reckon this was a face saving exercise for Rich!

[ranger]

I am now getting a _very_ steady 1:37 @ 31 spm.

I would guess that this is my pace for repeat AT 2Ks during sharpening.

My stroke has become _very_ big.

12.4 SPI, 10 MPS

ranger

[ranger]

The Detroit venue today was a _very_ local affair.

No weigh-in at all.

Etc.

Nothing "official."

Nice to see so many young kids enjoying rowing, though.

All of the Ann Arbor High School Teams were there (Pioneer, Huron, etc.), plus the rowers from the Detroit clubs (Wayandote, Ecorse, Detroit).

I saw a lot of red, too.

Canadian kids?

Perhaps.

From Windsor?

_Beautiful_ morning on the east side of Grosse Ile, west side of the Detroit River.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Trenton,+ ... CAsQ8gEwAA

Water like glass, blazing sun, brillantly blue sky.

Not a normal winter day in southeast Michigan at all.

Looked like Denver.

ranger

[ranger]

I dont see how you can blow up completely and not finish, seems inconceivable to me.

I just wasn't much into it, Steve.

Nothing official could come of it, given no weigh-ins, etc.

I think this racing without preparing for it is getting pretty silly, anyway.

At the moment, I just need to do a lot of AT work--repeat 2Ks, 5Ks, distance trials, etc.

After that work, I think I will now _repeat_ 2Ks, 1:37 @ 31 spm.

No need to go to race venues to do this work.

I am now so much better than those in my age and weight category that it doesn't matter what I do at race venues until I am fully trained.

When I am fully trained, with my heart rate ranging up to max and my anaerobic capacities fully engaged, I'll pull 6:16.

I just need to keep sharpening for six weeks or so.

So the task is set.

ranger

[ranger]

I dont see how you can blow up completely and not finish, seems inconceivable to me.

Well, Steve.

Perhaps that's in part because the times I pull for 2K are also inconceivable to you.

A 2K is not a road race.

I have also run hundreds of road races.

An all out 2K severely depresses my immune system.

I sneeze uncontrollably for the rest of the day.

My lungs are sered and hurt for a week.

After the 6:28 I pulled in my first CRASH-Bs back in 2002, I had back spasms that would knock me off my feet.

To control the back spasms, I tied a rope around my chest and wore it under my shirt for a couple of weeks.

That seemed to help.

After the race, I couldn't get up for 30 minutes or so.

I just layed on my back.

If I have a good race, the normal result is that I end up ill.

No, if you do 2Ks at max, they are nothing to play around with.

You need to pick your shots.

Sounds like you don't even know what I am talking about.

ranger

[ranger]

Steve--

Are you even racing on the erg now?

I can't even find any results for you.

What is your best 2K, recently?

Mine is 6:41.

ranger

[bellboy]

DNF-Smooth_as_butta!