The Two Types of Training

[whp4]

This is the final race of the season

Sure, but it is not the end of the indoor rowing season.

That is April 30th.

And as I have made entirely clear, I am not training for any particular race.

I am just training to try to be the best I can be.

I am in the final stages of that training now.

So at what date will you be sure you have reached your peak? You've told us your fitness has stayed maximal, your stroke is perfect, your technique is fixed, so you just need to finish sharpening, right? I don't want to tune in and proclaim your latest row to be the greatest of all time only to have you eclipse it the following week, so just give us a date by which you'll have done your very best. Remember, you're slowing down with age, whether you've factored that into your schedule or not.

The nay-sayers here are just stupid.

And yet, they always turn out to be correct, and you're the one who soldiers on without a single goal achieved...

When it comes to training, they don't know their ass from their elbow, and their racing shows it.

Funny, that sounds like you talking about poetry...

[Nosmo]

Racing doesn't determine training.

Training determines racing.

and who do you think doesn't believe this?

The priorities (and logic) of those who write on this forum are upside down.

as is your understanding of everyone else's priorities

That's why no one improves, and almost everyone gets stale, sick, injured, discouraged, and so, sooner than later, just quits.

And who are you referring too? Bob S. started rowing about 65 years ago. Plenty of others have for many years. I'm a much better sculler then I was 3 years ago and I've been sculling for 10 years, and competing in one form or another for 40 years. Mike C. got his best time after 16 years of high level competition. People stop because their priorities change. MVB is a much better sculler then he was a few years ago. Rocket Roy will be back. Plenty of people have a much longer history of rowing then you do.
You really think MC quit racing because he was discouraged? Or Rocket Roy is bike racing because he was discouraged? Your understanding of other people is close to non-existent.

[Bob S.]

They will stand for a long time.

Nosmo,

Check your PMs for a comment on this.

Bob S.

[ranger]

We havent seen any of his races which actually show any stroke data, he doesnt seem to know (or want to know) any splits either!

Yea.

Spectators have rights.

Popcorn isn't popcorn, if it isn't salty.

Hot dogs are terrible, if they aren't mustardy.

And for f..k's sake, where are the onions?



Love this 56" HD TV, though, especially the Dolby surround sound.



ranger

[JimR]

It seems you have your undies in a bunch over this dismal season!

... I will keep training as I am now ...

A pity you aren't coachable, maybe you would see what everyone else already knows.

... I will race all of the distances repeatedly ...

Like when you race 84 500m sets in 84 days and call it a full marathon?

... and establish a new set of pbs ...

More likely you will exhibt pms instead of pbs.

... I'll do the pbs IND_V ...

Damn truth machines don't ley you fake IND_V entries ... I bet that really makes you mad!

... and enter them in the lightweight rankings ...

Even though you will be a heavyweight? What's a few pounds between you and your fan club anyway.

... The nay-sayers here are just stupid ...

They get your times right far more often than you do but I have heard even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while

... they don't know their ass from their elbow ...

Kind of like you not knowing your AT from your UT1 I think ... perhaps your brother could explain.

... If you are interested, keep your eyes on this for the next two months

Hey ... everybody likes a train wreck ... I'm excited to be sure.

JimR

[ranger]

So at what date will you be sure you have reached your peak?

When I am doing all of the predictive sharpening sessions and racing all of the distances, including 2K, regularly, week in and week out, and my times plateau, or decline.

I think I should probably get there by the end of April.

This is what happened in the fall and winter of 2003.

ranger

[ranger]

Hey ... everybody likes a train wreck ... I'm excited to be sure.

Hey, if what I am doing is a train wreck, no one else even got out of bed, much less mounted a rail and moved down a track.

ranger

[JimR]

Love this 56" HD TV, though, especially the Dolby surround sound.

You should invite Henry over ... after all his $1000 probably paid for your HD.

JimR

[ranger]

give us a date by which you'll have done your very best

The body isn't on a calender.

You just produce the conditions for it to do its best and then wait until there is evidence that it has.

Dates have nothing to do with it.

ranger

[ranger]

Racing doesn't determine training.

Training determines racing.

and who do you think doesn't believe this?

Training is an opportunity to work on your weaknesses.

After a _very_ early point, you only get better by overcoming your weaknesses.

I have been told explicitly by the forum that training has nothing to do with working on your weaknesses.

Rather, it is all about parading your strengths.

No, sorry.

IMHO, _racing_ is about parading your strengths.

You don't go anywhere very fast when you are working on your weaknesses.

The point of racing is to go fast, not to get better.

When you are going fast, you are not getting better.

You are expending your resources, rather than renewing them, building them up.

ranger

[Byron Drachman]

Hey ... everybody likes a train wreck

Famous train wreck. Just google on train wreck.

[johnlvs2run]

Sep 09, 2003

500m / 2:10.4 / 12spm / 19.2mps / 13.15spi

Yep.

There it is.

Then all you have to do is hold the stroking power constant, lift the rate to 46 spm, and you will be doing 8 MPS at 1:24.

Enough with the small talk.

I'm aiming for a 6:16 for the 2k! now that I know how to row well.

[ranger]

Sep 09, 2003

500m / 2:10.4 / 12spm / 19.2mps / 13.15spi

Yep.

There it is.

Then all you have to do is hold the stroking power constant, lift the rate to 46 spm, and you will be doing 8 MPS at 1:24.

Enough with the small talk.

I'm aiming for a 6:16 for the 2k! now that I know how to row well.

Sure, if as a lightweight, you can do 500m, 13 SPI @ 46 spm, you do indeed know how to row well.

ranger

[DUThomas]

Sure, if as a lightweight, you can do 500m, 13 SPI @ 46 spm, you do indeed know how to row well.

Are you actually admitting that John rows well, or are you tarnishing the purity of your SPI ideal with an SPM condition?

[ranger]

Sure, if as a lightweight, you can do 500m, 13 SPI @ 46 spm, you do indeed know how to row well.

Are you actually admitting that John rows well, or are you tarnishing the purity of your SPI ideal with an SPM condition?

For a lightweight, 46 spm is a standard rate for a 500m trial.

How fast you are depends on your stroking power.

If you row well (13 SPI), you are fast indeed--1:24.

If you row like shit (9 SPI), you are slow as molasses--1:35.

If you only pull 7 SPI, like John Rupp, you should do another sport.

You don't have any talent for this one.

ranger