The Two Types of Training

johnlvs2run · Post by **johnlvs2run** » February 21st, 2010, 12:42 pm

lintonwilson wrote:Ranger,,,,6:41.4 as a Lt.Wt.

Woo hoo!! Way to go, Rich!

leadville · Post by **leadville** » February 21st, 2010, 12:46 pm

time for lunch; as distasteful as they might be, I'll be dining on my words of doubt about our hero's performance.

I'd congratulate him but he's such a meanspirited, self-absorbed, preening jerk I can't bring myself to do that.

I would note he is still a ways away from bettering Bob Spousta's performance, despite ranger's continued belittling of that worthy.

hjs · Post by **hjs** » February 21st, 2010, 12:48 pm

mikvan52 wrote:
hjs wrote:
lintonwilson wrote:Ranger,,,,6:41.4 as a Lt.Wt.
very impressive I must say, well done.

I have to agree. Great row.
And Roy's record still stands: 6:38.1

Rich has shot his "UT1" wad, is :00.4 slower than last year, and has still zero prospects for the 6:28 ...

He'll end up with the fastest 55-59 lwt piece for 2010 on the erg.
I cannot see who will challenge him prior to april 30, 2010....

We'll undoubtably hear about "fastest time by a 59-yr-old ever" too
"pleased with that"

yep

But this is about it, last year he also did this and after that he was finished.

6.28 is impossible, let alone 6.16 but nevertheless well done.

BTW this is a nice goal for your Mike for next season, tough sure but possible.

JimR · Post by **JimR** » February 21st, 2010, 12:53 pm

lintonwilson wrote:Ranger,,,,6:41.4 as a Lt.Wt.

Most disappointing for the 100 million meter man that is the best lwt of all time with the perfect stroke and all ...

Very fortunate that the indoor racing season lasts much longer here in the US I think.

JimR

Yankeerunner · Post by **Yankeerunner** » February 21st, 2010, 1:06 pm

Almost as fast as the much-maligned Dennis Hastings did as a 55-59lwt more than 4 years ago. Almost, but not quite.

BrianStaff · Post by **BrianStaff** » February 21st, 2010, 1:50 pm

lintonwilson wrote:Ranger,,,,6:41.4 as a Lt.Wt.

Isn't this a complete replay of last year? - complete failure on the first attended race, a no-show at Boston and then a 6:41 a week or so later

Nosmo · Post by **Nosmo** » February 21st, 2010, 1:57 pm

BrianStaff wrote:
lintonwilson wrote:Ranger,,,,6:41.4 as a Lt.Wt.
Isn't this a complete replay of last year? - complete failure on the first attended race, a no-show at Boston and then a 6:41 a week or so later

Yes and as such it should be no surprise. Unless you believe he didn't sharpen last season. A bit faster then I predicted but nothing too surprising. He may even go a couple of seconds faster. Don't think he can break the WR but it is possible.

Steve G · Post by **Steve G** » February 21st, 2010, 1:59 pm

leadville wrote:time for lunch; as distasteful as they might be, I'll be dining on my words of doubt about our hero's performance.

I'd congratulate him but he's such a meanspirited, self-absorbed, preening jerk I can't bring myself to do that.

I would note he is still a ways away from bettering Bob Spousta's performance, despite ranger's continued belittling of that worthy.

I agree 100%, I would normally be the first to congratulate anybody on a great race, but it is so difficult to do with Rich. I have met a lot of the top guys, Dennis H, John Harvey, Roger Prowse, Jean Paul, RR, Rick B, Rocket Man, Graham Benton, Big Bird etc, all nice guys, but Rich stands alone in managing to wind me up!!

Steve

Rocket Roy · Post by **Rocket Roy** » February 21st, 2010, 2:11 pm

Steve G wrote: but Rich stands alone in managing to wind me up!!

Steve

Well I've tried....

Steve G · Post by **Steve G** » February 21st, 2010, 2:16 pm

Rocket Roy wrote:
Steve G wrote: but Rich stands alone in managing to wind me up!!

Steve
Well I've tried....

Stick to biking Roy!
Weather been to bad to get on mine, hours turbo this morning, listening to an audio book, certainly makes time fly by!
Whats it feel like to STILL be WR holder

johnlvs2run · Post by **johnlvs2run** » February 21st, 2010, 2:22 pm

Roy Brook has the 55-59 record at 6:38.1 from 2006.
I don't know what Roy's age was at the time.

However there's a 7.7 second difference from age 55 to 59 based on WR age times.

Therefore Rich's 6:41.4 is superior to any previous 55-59 times, but not to Brian Bailey's 60+ WR of 6:42.5.

snowleopard · Post by **snowleopard** » February 21st, 2010, 2:29 pm

An impressive row

Somewhat slower than the predicted [predictable] 6:30. I wonder what the splits were.

I have rather lost track but our hero has admitted to some sharpening this time around I think. So less than 12 seconds to gain

Doubtless he will emerge shortly and claim that he wasn't quite 'up for it' and it was just an AT row, etc.

snowleopard · Post by **snowleopard** » February 21st, 2010, 2:33 pm

John Rupp wrote:Roy Brook has the 55-59 record at 6:38.1 from 2006.
I don't know what Roy's age was at the time.

However there's a 7.7 second difference from age 55 to 59 based on WR age times.

Therefore Rich's 6:41.4 is superior to any previous 55-59 times, but not to Brian Bailey's 60+ WR of 6:42.5.

The age group WR is what it is.

If you think it is necessary to start making artificial comparisons based on age then you need to compute all the other relative factors: V02 max, fast twitch:slow twitch, %age nasal hair, etc.

Steve G · Post by **Steve G** » February 21st, 2010, 2:34 pm

John Rupp wrote:Roy Brook has the 55-59 record at 6:38.1 from 2006.
I don't know what Roy's age was at the time.

However there's a 7.7 second difference from age 55 to 59 based on WR age times.

Therefore Rich's 6:41.4 is superior to any previous 55-59 times, but not to Brian Bailey's 60+ WR of 6:42.5.

John
There are no records for 59 year olds, the record is for 55-59, what next weight/height adjustment?
Steve

TomR · Post by **TomR** » February 21st, 2010, 2:48 pm

John Rupp wrote:I have a man-crush on Rich

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