The Two Types of Training

[leadville]

Someone said Bob and I shouldn't be chatting about peaking and tapering as ranger won't do any of the races he's signed up for.

That's probably true

unfortunately folks new to the sport may see his past successes and read his babbling and think they should do what he does.

Our comments are meant to provide another perspective, one rooted in science and research readily available on the web.

But you're right, if they check race results from Cincy, Indy, Boston and the next few events they'll see the fallacy of his thinking.

A great example of the consequences of uninformed overtraining.

More to come this weekend!

[KevJGK]

And on the erg, I worked endlessly to improve my technique, rowing 50 million meters at low rates and high stroking powers, concentrating on technique.

You need a new fishing rod.

You’re getting too predictable.

[Byron Drachman]

By the end of 2003, I already had three WR rows.

I didn't know that. Why didn't you mention this before?

[hjs]

By the end of 2003, I already had three WR rows.

I didn't know that. Why didn't you mention this before?

Indeed! I also didn,t know that.


Maybe the pro can tell how he trained to get to that level

I also vaguely heard of a rumour that in those days he actually told in details what he did in training and even ranked pieces and used the nonathlon.

But maybe those rumours are just vicious lies.

[detlefchef]

Not sure about the rest of you but I'm only looking at this thread for the pictures these days.....

Dude, that shot of Scarlett made this entire thread worthwhile.

[ranger]

in those days he actually told in details what he did in training and even ranked pieces

Yep.

And so, like everyone else, I didn't improve.

I paraded my strengths and ignored my weaknesses.

So I just got worse.

ranger

[hjs]

in those days he actually told in details what he did in training and even ranked pieces

Yep.

And so, like everyone else, I didn't improve.

I paraded my strengths and ignored my weaknesses.

So I just got worse.

ranger

No you didn,t

You got worse after you started doing something else and stopped doing what you are made for.

What you call "parading your strenghts"is just what you should do, you should work with your talent. But nomatter what you had done, you always would have declined.
Erging is a simple movement, you used a good although not very pretty stroke, your fitness was 100%. That was it.
It's not strange at all that you pb ed in your first race ever.

There is that little thing called father time which doesn,t exciste in your little batcave universe. Outside that cave you can,t escape it though


You think that a writer get's better at writing if he takes up singing

[hjs]

in those days he actually told in details what he did in training and even ranked pieces

Yep.

And so, like everyone else, I didn't improve.

I paraded my strengths and ignored my weaknesses.

So I just got worse.

ranger

No you didn,t and there are lot's of people improving............. people in there prime not the ones on the hill off decline.................

You got worse after you started doing something else and stopped doing what you are made for.

What you call "parading your strenghts"is just what you should do, you should work with your talent. But nomatter what you had done, you always would have declined.
Erging is a simple movement, you used a good although not very pretty stroke, your fitness was 100%. That was it.
It's not strange at all that you pb ed in your first race ever.

There is that little thing called father time which doesn,t exciste in your little batcave universe. Outside that cave you can,t escape it though


You think that a writer get's better at writing if he takes up singing

[ranger]

But now I am quite a bit better.

Startled to see this morning that I was peddling at 30 mph.

Really spinning (in high gear).

Must be my higher heart rate.

Now, I get a quick response and good float on my HR, at least up to 175 bpm.

Over the next couple of days, I'll want to press that, repeatedly, to 185 bpm.

Perhaps it's the wrong decision again, but Cleveland is so close by that I think I'll just drive down there Sunday morning.

ranger

[DUThomas]

No reason wasting time at a hotel and dropping another $100.

Absolutely right -- you save a hundred and get a built-in excuse to boot. Good deal!

[aharmer]

No reason wasting time at a hotel and dropping another $100.

Absolutely right -- you save a hundred and get a built-in excuse to boot. Good deal!

I don't know how far Clevelend is from Ann Arbor but driving or lack of sleep is no excuse for poor performance. Lack of sleep the night before athletic competition has proven to have almost zero effect on performance. He'll have to come up with something else.

I assume you've done your rowing for the day at this point...I didn't see the 8x500 screenshot. And to answer your next question, I can't give you my 60 minute at 10 MPS data because I don't do them.

[PaulH]

Startled to see this morning that I was peddling at 30 mph.

No you weren't.

[kini62]

But now I am quite a bit better.

Startled to see this morning that I was peddling at 30 mph.

Really spinning (in high gear).

Must be my higher heart rate.

Now, I get a quick response and good float on my HR, at least up to 175 bpm.

Over the next couple of days, I'll want to press that, repeatedly, to 185 bpm.

Perhaps it's the wrong decision again, but Cleveland is so close by that I think I'll just drive down theer Sunday morning.

No reason wasting time at a hotel and dropping another $100.

ranger

ranger

LMAO! I can't believe you're going to use the same lame excuse you did for Cincy.

You're such a douchebag. A self proclaimed millionaire investing guru equal to or better than Warren Buffett and yet you can't afford to spend a $100 on a hotel.

It's not that you can't afford it though, it's just your built in excuse for your inevitable crash and burn or DNS.

[JimR]

I thought that predicting a negative future outcome, no matter how many examples you have to support it, is nay-saying.

I am sure we also know what nay-sayers really are too ... nobody should want to be a nay-sayer. Byron understands this better than anyone in recent memory I think.

So ... sit back, drink the kool-aid and wait for the results. There will be plently of chances to comment Sunday.

JimR

[ranger]

your inevitable crash and burn or DNS

Sure, everyone crashes and burns, now and again.

That certainly isn't my intention, though.

In fact, even though I usually try to row as hard as I can, this time, I think I might just hang onto 1:39 and skim under Rocket Roy's record.

I think I can pull 1:37, but there isn't really any reason to do so now.

Nipping Roy's record (for sure) might be a better goal.

I can wait another week and try to pull _under_ 1:37 in Chicago, after I have another race and another hard week of distance rowing and sharpening under my belt.

1:36 would nip the 50s lwt WR.

ranger