The Two Types of Training

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
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Post by KevJGK » February 17th, 2010, 7:23 am

hjs wrote:I would say, if you can,t affort to loose the money, no matter what reason then don,t bet at all .........
Wise words Henry. I have set aside £100 already for you in a savings account in anticipation of you succeeding next season. I have not decided how to spend the £3 interest yet. :wink:
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Post by hjs » February 17th, 2010, 7:29 am

KevJGK wrote:
hjs wrote:I would say, if you can,t affort to loose the money, no matter what reason then don,t bet at all .........
Wise words Henry. I have set aside £100 already for you in a savings account in anticipation of you succeeding next season. I have not decided how to spend the £3 interest yet. :wink:
Indeed Kev.

Don't you have pay taxes on those £3 first?, over here it's 1.2% nomatter if your money grows or not.
So if I do that I have only 2 pounds left.
And that is if a bank is willing to pay that 3% :wink:

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Post by rjw » February 17th, 2010, 7:48 am

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ranger wrote:Hey, Henry.

I will send you the $1000 I owe you from the prize money I will win from the Chicago organizers when I break the 55s lwt WR this weekend in Cleveland.

I won't receive the money until March, though.

Of course, given that I am sending you the $1000 for the part of the bet that I lost last year, if I reach one of my targets this year, you will owe me a full $3000 in return.

As it looks now, I think I will reach _all_ of my targets, not just one, or a few.

Wish me luck!

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The bet was clear Rich.

Last was year was about that 1000$, if you rowed any of your stated goals, I would have lost and you had won the double amount, If you broke a lightweight 6.40 but stayed above your own 2k goal it was a breakeven.
That was the 6.16/6.40 zone

The result was close but also clear 6.41, so I won, you owe me that 1000 $, Chicago has nothing to do with it.............

See: http://www.c2forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9742&start=0


The other bet was not a bet, but more a promise from my side and it was not about this year, but I gave you the change to row any of your stated goals in your profile, at any point in your life, the ones pointing to a 6.16 2k.

No time restictions.
clear proof of your weight status.
and clear proof of the row.

So the situation is clear, you owe me that 1000 dollar, but after you have settled that bet, you can win that back 3 fold.


Good luck with your row, the WR is possible for you, but it is also still far from your goals. Those are without a doubt unreachable. And not only for you but for every man your size and age.


So if you choose to pay your debt PM me.
So, the little wager on the table has nothing to do with breaking 6:40 anymore as that bet is over. The bet on the table is for ranger to row any of the 6:16 predictors in his signature.

He still owes Roy $20 as well. What race will cover that?

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Post by ranger » February 17th, 2010, 7:51 am

hjs wrote:Chicago has nothing to do with it..
With the 55s lwt WR?

True.

I'll row under that with a mild effort on Friday.

Then Cleveland has to do with putting the 55s lwt WR away for good, with something close to 6:30.

Chicago has to do with the a pb and the 50s lwt WR.

Detroit has to with the 40s lwt WR--and history.

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Post by snowleopard » February 17th, 2010, 7:51 am

ranger wrote:Who said I couldn't afford it?
Well you either don't have the money or you can't afford the grief from your wife for making and losing a foolish bet.

What other reason do you have for not paying? Other than being a shyster, that is?

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Post by Byron Drachman » February 17th, 2010, 8:52 am

Ranger wrote:If I row 6:30, this weekend in principle, you really lose even your first bet, too.
Classical revisionism by Ranger. You lost your bet with Henry. The deadline for rowing a sub 6:40 2K was April 30, 2009. That was then. This is now.

I know dealing with dates must be difficult for you since you keep saying you will be 60 in a few days, but make an effort.

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Post by mikvan52 » February 17th, 2010, 8:52 am

Let's do "Elskid-speak" :arrow: :idea:

-instead of this "almost- 60" stuff..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgD6BmIowZI

video: thanks to yankeerunner

Elskid Ebbensen begins at 2'28" way- B)
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American 60's Lwt. 2k record (6:49) •• set WRs for 60' & FM •• ~ now surpassed
repeat combined Masters Lwt & Hwt 1x National Champion E & F class
62 yrs, 160 lbs, 6' ...

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Post by ranger » February 17th, 2010, 9:00 am

snowleopard wrote:
ranger wrote:Who said I couldn't afford it?
Well you either don't have the money or you can't afford the grief from your wife for making and losing a foolish bet.

What other reason do you have for not paying? Other than being a shyster, that is?
The bet is two-part.

I still have a good chance of winning the second part.

If I row under the 55s lwt WR on Friday, I pretty much win the first part of the bet, too--in principle.

I just ran out of time last year.

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Post by ranger » February 17th, 2010, 9:01 am

Byron Drachman wrote:
Ranger wrote:If I row 6:30, this weekend in principle, you really lose even your first bet, too.
Classical revisionism by Ranger. You lost your bet with Henry. The deadline for rowing a sub 6:40 2K was April 30, 2009. That was then. This is now.

I know dealing with dates must be difficult for you since you keep saying you will be 60 in a few days, but make an effort.
Just butt out, Byron.

It's none of your damn business.

You're one of the biggest assholes I have ever encountered.

Just find a hole and crawl in it, where you belong.

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Post by ranger » February 17th, 2010, 9:04 am

rjw wrote:He still owes Roy $20
No, I don't.

The conditions for that bet were not met.

Planes didn't fly.

I couldn't get to Boston.

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Post by hjs » February 17th, 2010, 9:08 am

ranger wrote:
If I row 6:30, this weekend in principle, you really lose even your first bet, too.

So you are the one that looks silly.

ranger
??? even If row 5.30 I don,t loose the first bet, the time limite is season 2009.

Are you saying that even the callender is to complicated to grasp ?

I will try to help you.

Season 2009 had a limited amount of time, it has a starting point may 1 2008 and an end date 31 april 2009.
If the end date, has passed the season is over and the next season starts. :wink:
Which again will end .................... etc

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Post by ranger » February 17th, 2010, 9:09 am

hjs wrote:
ranger wrote:
If I row 6:30, this weekend in principle, you really lose even your first bet, too.

So you are the one that looks silly.

ranger
??? even If row 5.30 I don,t loose the first bet, the time limite is season 2009.

Are you saying that even the callender is to complicated to grasp ?

I will try to help you.

Season 2009 had a limited amount of time, it has a starting point may 1 2008 and an end date 31 april 2009.
If the end date, has passed the season is over and the next season starts. :wink:
Which again will end .................... etc
No, time limits are not complicated to grasp.

They just have no relevance in this case--in principle--as we will see on Friday, and then in spades on Sunday.

Unprincipled bets are just scams, done with no conviction, misguided from the start, proved wrong in the end.

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Post by hjs » February 17th, 2010, 9:13 am

ranger wrote:
rjw wrote:He still owes Roy $20
No, I don't.
The conditions for that bet were not met.
Planes didn't fly.
I couldn't get to Boston.

ranger
You added those conditions afterwards.............

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Post by ranger » February 17th, 2010, 9:15 am

hjs wrote:the little wager on the table has nothing to do with breaking 6:40
Yea, this.

Scams are only scams.

They are unprincipled.

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Post by ranger » February 17th, 2010, 9:15 am

hjs wrote:
ranger wrote:
rjw wrote:He still owes Roy $20
No, I don't.
The conditions for that bet were not met.
Planes didn't fly.
I couldn't get to Boston.

ranger
You added those conditions afterwards.............
No, the airlines did.

I had no control over the airlines.

I was standing at O'Hare International for six hours, trying to get a plane to Boston.

There weren't any.

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