The Two Types of Training

[detlefchef]

In this case, _very_ big mouth, but not much action to back it up.

Pretty big disappointment.

His training turned out to be a complete dud.

ranger

Oh the irony.

[ranger]

I see that you have a very good chance of picking up some cash at Chicago rowing as a lightweight or even as a heavyweight unless somebody from the Lincoln Park Boat Club or some other rower in your class shows up.

That would be an excellent time to start paying Henry the money plus interest you owe him. Perhaps that would ease your conscience and put you in a better mood.

Yea, I agree.

When I reach all of my targets, Henry, being an upstanding guy, will still be happy to pay me the $2000 he will owe me.

A WR, rowed anywhere, from now until Chicago, not just at Chicago, earns me $1000 from the Chicago venue.

I am registered for the "Record Challenge."

ranger

[whp4]

Gosh.

For all his posturing here, I see that Jon Bone/NavHaz, pulling 6:30.8, was 19 seconds off the pace in his race at WIRC.

Gosh, how far were you off the pace the last time you rowed at WIRC?

At 52, John's age now, I rowed better than him as a lightweight at WIRC 2003.

Nice work, prof -- you managed to get both his age and the sentence structure incorrect.

I pulled 6:30 flat.

As a heavyweight, in my first WIRC, at 51, I pulled 6:28.5.

As a washed up heavyweight masquerading as a lighweight, in your last WIRC, you pulled 7:04.3.

I suppose we'll have to wait and see, but as a lightweight just a few days short of 60, I might well outpull Jon by a considerable margin this year.

We'll have to do a lot of wait, because there won't be anything to see.

That's pretty embarrassing.

Yes, your behavior and excuses certainly are!

Jon often talks about threatening Dick Cashin's 55s hwt WR.

But at 52 and pulling 6:30, this is just wild overestimation.

He at least gets the first digit right on his predictions. How many times have you turned in a 7+ minute row after predicting a new WR in recent years? 3, 4? How many times have you handled down?

Jon is a half a foot taller than I am and 100 pounds heavier.

Smarter, better looking, and a nicer guy, too. Cheer up, at least you could challenge him on the weight

The erg is a truth machine.

Indeed. And your last reading was "7:11"

[ranger]

And your last reading was "7:11"

Nope.

6:48.6

RANKING RESULTS 2010
Indoor Rower | Individual and Race Results | 2000m | Men's | Lightweight | Custom Age Range (59–70) | Current 2010 Season

Rich Cureton 59 Ann Arbor MI USA 6:48.6 IND
1 gregory brock 62 santa cruz ca USA 7:03.9 IND
2 Rolf Meek 59 Oslo NOR 7:05.4 IND
3 Gerald Lawson 62 Winona MN USA 7:06.0 IND
4 Rick Bayko 62 Newburyport MA USA 7:12.5 RACE
5 Michael Brownjohn 61 Upminster Essex GBR 7:12.8 RACE
6 John Exley 62 Oxford City Athletic Club GBR 7:13.3 RACE
7 Hugh Conway 60 St. Pats TOW Club Co. Armagh IRL 7:13.8 IND_V
8 Gregory Reddan 63 AUS 7:15.7 RACE
9 Timothy Foley 61 Coopersburg PA USA 7:15.9 IND
10 Stephen Sepe 60 Katonah NY USA 7:16.2 IND

That will be 6:40 on Wednesday.

No one my age and weight (or older) has ever rowed 6:40.

On Wednesday, that will be 6:32.

On Sunday, that will be 6:28--officially.

No lightweight 52 or older has ever pulled sub-6:30, much less 6:28, and the 52-year-old who did it was me.

I am now 59.

Paul Siebach, the 50s lwt WR-holder is now 51, but his 2K time has already ballooned up over 6:30 (6:31.1).

I'll try to beat Dennis Hastings' 55s lwt American record on Wednesday.

I will try to beat Rocket Roy's 55s lwt WR on Friday.

A lwt 6:28 at Cleveland would be just off-the-charts good, in the range of 15 seconds better than any lightweight has ever done at 59.

ranger

[snowleopard]

And your last reading was "7:11"

Nope.

6:48.6

RANKING RESULTS 2010
Indoor Rower | Individual and Race Results | 2000m | Men's | Lightweight | Custom Age Range (59–70) | Current 2010 Season

Rich Cureton 59 Ann Arbor MI USA 6:48.6 IND
1 gregory brock 62 santa cruz ca USA 7:03.9 IND
2 Rolf Meek 59 Oslo NOR 7:05.4 IND
3 Gerald Lawson 62 Winona MN USA 7:06.0 IND
4 Rick Bayko 62 Newburyport MA USA 7:12.5 RACE
5 Michael Brownjohn 61 Upminster Essex GBR 7:12.8 RACE
6 John Exley 62 Oxford City Athletic Club GBR 7:13.3 RACE
7 Hugh Conway 60 St. Pats TOW Club Co. Armagh IRL 7:13.8 IND_V
8 Gregory Reddan 63 AUS 7:15.7 RACE
9 Timothy Foley 61 Coopersburg PA USA 7:15.9 IND
10 Stephen Sepe 60 Katonah NY USA 7:16.2 IND

That will be 6:40 on Wednesday.

No one my age and weight has ever rowed 6:40.

On Sunday, that will be 6:28--officially.

No lightweight 52 or older has ever pulled sub-6:30, much less 6:28, and the 52-year-old who did it was me.

I am now 59.

ranger

Ooh, looky here, in your age category when you're not comparing yourself to 70 yo rowers I see that your *unverified* 2K has you in 6th place.

1 Brian O'Neill 50 Barton Athletic Club GBR 6:38.7 RACE
2 Steven Geary 52 Bluff South Island NZL 6:42.1 IND
3 Mouss. HAMMACHI 51 LE PERREUX S/M FRA 6:45.7 IND
4 Michael van Beuren 57 Hartland VT USA 6:47.6 IND
5 David Hosking 54 London GBR 6:47.8 IND
6 Rich Cureton 59 Ann Arbor MI USA 6:48.6 IND

[ranger]

Yep, I was comparing myself to those 59 and over.

That's what I am.

A 59-year-old lightweight.

Yea, I'll have to get in a good AT 2K (e.g., 6:28) to be the best 50s lwt this year.

A UT1 effort won't do it.

I think I will get that AT effort this Sunday in Cleveland.

Top-end UT1 is 2K + 10.

ranger

[whp4]

Nope.

6:48.6

RANKING RESULTS 2010
Indoor Rower | Individual and Race Results | 2000m | Men's | Lightweight | Custom Age Range (59–70) | Current 2010 Season

Another error -- you ranked it as a lightweight. What a lying sack of excrement. The rankings should put a footnote by any result of yours submitted as a lightweight without a witnessed race weigh-in that reads "not bloody likely!" Nice custom age range, too. Wouldn't want the people with faster times showing up to confuse the issue, eh? If it will make you feel better about yourself, you can set the gender selector to "either" and have a bigger list, though the ranking software still won't put a "1" next to your name.

[ranger]

I posted a digipic of the scales.

I weighed in today at 163 lbs.



My weight is great, the best it has ever been.

ranger

[hjs]

I posted a digipic of the scales.

I weighed in today at 163 lbs.

ranger

Yep after 2 hour crosstraining to get your weight down so you are still overweight and you even falsified the rankings, your 6.48.4 is a heavyWeight time.

And 142.1 rate 31.25

329/31.25 = a piss poor 10.5 SPI hahahahaha what happened with that new "fixed" stroke.

[hjs]

Nope.

6:48.6

RANKING RESULTS 2010
Indoor Rower | Individual and Race Results | 2000m | Men's | Lightweight | Custom Age Range (59–70) | Current 2010 Season

Another error -- you ranked it as a lightweight. What a lying sack of excrement. The rankings should put a footnote by any result of yours submitted as a lightweight without a witnessed race weigh-in that reads "not bloody likely!" Nice custom age range, too. Wouldn't want the people with faster times showing up to confuse the issue, eh? If it will make you feel better about yourself, you can set the gender selector to "either" and have a bigger list, though the ranking software still won't put a "1" next to your name.

I even question the row at all, it can be very well done by someone else. We will see what his next "witnessed" attempt will be.

[johnlvs2run]

RANKING RESULTS 2010
Indoor Rower | Individual and Race Results | 2000m | Men's | Lightweight | Custom Age Range (59–70) | Current 2010 Season

Rich Cureton 59 Ann Arbor MI USA 6:48.6 IND
1 gregory brock 62 santa cruz ca USA 7:03.9 IND
2 Rolf Meek 59 Oslo NOR 7:05.4 IND
3 Gerald Lawson 62 Winona MN USA 7:06.0 IND
4 Rick Bayko 62 Newburyport MA USA 7:12.5 RACE
5 Michael Brownjohn 61 Upminster Essex GBR 7:12.8 RACE
6 John Exley 62 Oxford City Athletic Club GBR 7:13.3 RACE
7 Hugh Conway 60 St. Pats TOW Club Co. Armagh IRL 7:13.8 IND_V
8 Gregory Reddan 63 AUS 7:15.7 RACE
9 Timothy Foley 61 Coopersburg PA USA 7:15.9 IND
10 Stephen Sepe 60 Katonah NY USA 7:16.2 IND

Be sure to get the IND_V from your monitor, and add it to your entry in the rankings.

Can someone post how to do this, as I've not used one for awhile.

[BrianStaff]

Your just all talk--nasty, negative, and therefore worthless.

ranger

This is from a university English professor

[BrianStaff]

I didn't row at 1:47 in Cincinnati.

You did...it's published - so that is another lie

I rowed at 1:38.

I once managed to pull a 1:34 - so does that make me faster than you.

You did not row at 1:38 - that's another lie

Stop lying - your family might find out

[ranger]

what happened with that new "fixed" stroke.

Oh, it's there.

I'll stick right on 1:40 @ 30 spm on Wednesday.

11.7 SPI

10 MPS

6:40 will be an American record, even for a 55-year-old.

The 60s lwt American record is 6:56, quite a drop off.

Next year, I'll send that record flying in the other direction.

If I can do 8 x 500m @ 1:34 twice this week, tomorrow and Thursday, together with another hard 2K, my heart rate might start reacting just fine, well enough to try 6:32 on Friday.

If I pull 6:32 on Friday, that will best the 5s lwt WR by a huge margin--6 seconds.

Then I will be ready to try 1:37 @ 32 spm on Sunday in Cleveland.

ranger

[ranger]

In this case, _very_ big mouth, but not much action to back it up.

Pretty big disappointment.

His training turned out to be a complete dud.

ranger

Oh the irony.

Nope, no irony at all.

Check the rankings at the end of the year.

You'll see why.

ranger