The Two Types of Training

[johnlvs2run]

If you Know which competition you are aiming to peak for can't you just work back from that date and time your sharpening work better. Also with the amount of effort you put into your training why not prepare yourself for the events better.

I agree with this.

[whp4]

With that in mind, and unless you have already done so, might I suggest cutting out all of your "crosstraining" for the next month or so? Now that you're at weight, it's completely unnecessary and counterproductive.

The problem is that he's not at weight unless he spends a few hours starving and sweating first. And without the cross-training, he'd probably be completely out of reach (alternate possibility: he's lying when he says he does it).

[ranger]

Rich. Your philosophy is pretty straightforward. Lots of endurance work to build a base. The more the work the bigger the base. Then lots of speed work to prepare for the aearobic and anarobic demands of a 2k.

What I can't understand is why you can't seem to get the second part right for a specific event. If you Know which competition you are aiming to peak for can't you just work back from that date and time your sharpening work better. Also with the amount of effort you put into your training why not prepare yourself for the events better.

I was surprised when you decided to drive through the night last weekend. Surely your efforts in training warrant a stop overnight for you to be rested and fresh for the event. I know you joke about saving money but a little planning would pay more dividends than a ton more endurance and speed work.

Best of luck with your next event but think about your preperation a little more.

It wasn't just the drive, Kevin. It was trying to race at all before I was fully prepared. As I said a couple of weeks ago, I need to do a month or so of race preparation to get ready to race.

Right now, I just have a great base.

But that isn't enough to row well for 2K.

You need to sharpen for six weeks or so to race well.

As Mike VB has explained, when you are preparing to race, quality 2Ks are best built up incrementally from training sessions that include sprints (500m, 1K, 1500m) and repeat 2Ks, negative splitting. I think that 5Ks are also an important part of this training, although Mike doesn't seem to think so.

This kind of training gets your heart rate responding appropriately and brings up your anaerobic capacities.

This is what I will do for the next month or so.

If I am lucky, I might be able to get in a good 2K before the end of the racing season.

ranger

[JohnBove]

Well, if I show up in couple of weeks at a race venue, when I am better prepared, and just pull though a 2K, 1:37 @ 31 spm, it will be pretty important what I weigh.

At weight, that would be 10 seconds under the 55s lwt WR.

ranger

Yes, except you don't have a chance in hell of doing that.

I could've posted the twenty-some-odd thousand posts that you have over the past few years, with all the absurd predictions and egotistical preening, and the results would be the same.

The difference is that I'm not insane, so I didn't.

Not sure what you mean, given that I have done it before, and I am better now.

Sure, if Mike VB said he was going to show up in a couple of weeks and pull 6:28, there would be some question.

But not in my case.

Been there, done that.

And when I didn't row as well or work as hard.

Did you pull a lwt 6:28 when you didn't know how to row?

Did you pull 6:29 @ 12 SPI a few years ago without even preparing for it?

I'm not sure where you folks are coming from.

If you have done something, and then you get more skilled, it is entirely reasonable to suppose that you might be capable of even better performances.

Can you tell me why that isn't reasonable?

ranger

Because you have not one reason to think you are better now. For all your grandiose predictions, you just rowed a 7:11 and your response is another bag of bad excuses. You're nothing special. And you long ago became a bad joke. You really should just go away. Unless you like being the village idiot, poked with sticks.

[TomR]

What goes on in the brains of you guys who give ranger advice? What possibly makes you think you are communicating with a reasonable human?

Still, since you willing to offer pointless advice to a witless defective, perhaps you'd help me out. I have not given up my goal of having sex with various beauties on consecutive days. This is a goal worth striving for.

Don't waste you intelligence on ranger. Help me. How do I add Elizabeth Shue to my string? Seriously.

[NavigationHazard]

Obvious. If the Shue fits....

(You set 'em up, I'll kick the field goal.)

[Nosmo]

You failed miserably, you barking jerk. You're a grandiose sham, and a repulsive personality. Who gives a flying fuck what you weighed??

John, you are taking this way too seriously. Lighten up. Its not worth it.

[Joanvb]

...Don't waste you intelligence on ranger. Help me. How do I add Elizabeth Shue to my string? Seriously.

Well, Tom...Show up at CRASH-B's for a start. You ought to know by now that all attractive women find virile racing machines (not the ergs) irresistible.

[TomR]

You ought to know by now that all attractive women find virile racing machines (not the ergs) irresistible.

I have suspected that, which puts me at a disadvantage. I, am. however, working to correct that--by getting some help from Lisa Schlenker.

I saw you and John rowed brilliantly again at the LB Sprints. Go fast in Boston--I'll hope to see you there next year, after I've done my sharpening.

[Joanvb]

Thanks, Tom. We will miss you in Boston.
Great to see that you are still at it, and with a great coach, too.

[jliddil]

How about we all stop replying and commenting on the things Ranger posts. These threads are not helpful to anyone

[walterchaos]

Ranger,

your predictions, training advice, and sledging of your rivals are becoming very boring.

May I suggest you start up a new thread on Bergsonian time and the western-scientific spatialization of time and its relation to rowing. You were really onto something there but the discussion was sidetracked just when it was heating up.

What about Heideggerian time?

Or could you outline your poetics for us?

Either way, drop the talk of SPI and now rowing well, etc. It is clear that your 2003 style was superior (you have never been faster). Furthermore, introducing that (2003) style into rowing was your great rowing achievement and will be your true legacy when you retire. It was unprecedented, outlandish and authentic! You turned your back on it but it's not too late. Turn back now, while you still can.

I am quite serious about all of this. Please give it some thought.

[ranger]

With that in mind, and unless you have already done so, might I suggest cutting out all of your "crosstraining" for the next month or so? Now that you're at weight, it's completely unnecessary and counterproductive.

The problem is that he's not at weight unless he spends a few hours starving and sweating first. And without the cross-training, he'd probably be completely out of reach (alternate possibility: he's lying when he says he does it).

No, the cross-training isn't counterproductive for establishing a base.

But yes, it is counterproductive for preparing to race.

I am now getting my rate up to 38 spm.

Perfect.

That's what I want to do for 500s.

When I pull 38 spm, I go 1:31 (12.3 SPI).

I'll also want to do 1K, 1:31 @ 38 spm.

If I keep the rate and power up that high, my HR will start to respond quickly to the stress.


Event Record Age Name Wt. Gender Country Season Verification*
1000 2:57.0 13 Dan Warren L M USA 2000 Historical record*
1000 2:57.8 32 Dan Staite L M GBR 2006 PM3/PM4 verification code
1000 2:59.0 46 Kent Timm L M USA 2005 Historical record*
1000 3:01.0 27 Richard Wilder L M GBR 2002 Historical record*
1000 3:03.3 50 Steven Geary L M NZL 2008 2007 Australasian Games
1000 3:16.7 60 Peter Herbert L M GBR 2005 Historical record*
1000 3:27.7 12 Marian Uroic L M HRV 2004 Historical record*
1000 3:29.1 70 Roger Bangay L M GBR 2008 Witnessed at Public Club
1000 3:47.2 80 Dean Smith L M USA 2007 PM3/PM4 verification code

Once I get warmed up, I am now just going along, 1:40 @ 29 spm in my distance rowing.

That's right about 12 SPI.

Freaky stuff.

Bring it on.

The more, the merrier.

That's WR 2K pace.

I really have my stroke swinging nicely at 30 spm.

Then with the high drag, my length and timing produces lots of easy power.

ranger

[hjs]

What goes on in the brains of you guys who give ranger advice? What possibly makes you think you are communicating with a reasonable human?

Still, since you willing to offer pointless advice to a witless defective, perhaps you'd help me out. I have not given up my goal of having sex with various beauties on consecutive days. This is a goal worth striving for.

Don't waste you intelligence on ranger. Help me. How do I add Elizabeth Shue to my string? Seriously.

No more Brunettes Tom ?

[ranger]

That distance stroke, 1:40 @ 30 spm, is my Head of the Charles stroke OTW.

If I can get to a 20 second differential between 1x and erg next year, that's 2:00 pace.

19:20

ranger