An examination of WR lightweight marks age 30 on up
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HRR v HR
I checked his stuff pretty carefully and didn't see a specific reference to HRR, and from reading the graphs and text it appears this is a % of max HR, not HRR.Mike wrote: -snip-
When speaking of "<75% max HR" I assume they mean HRR (the second R meaning reserve.
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Well, with the race-data ones you can have some confidence, but the others might be wrong, if the date/time on the PMx (or PC in the RowPro case) is wrong. IND_V won't fix that and I don't really recall what RowPro did. As I recall, IND_V would catch you trying to report a different date than what the date/time on the PMx was when you rowed the piece.NavigationHazard wrote:For the IND_V_ and RowPro and race-data ranked pieces, you know the exact date on which they were rowed.
Not a problem, just wasn't sure if I was missing something important. It didn't seem like for the purposes at hand that the occasional error would be too significant. If someone is going to put their thumb on the scale, I'd expect them to do so in terms of the actual result more than the date...But you're right, I overstated the problem.
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I actually had in mind people entering a piled-up stack of results at the same time (especially end of the season) and not changing the default date from whatever "today" might be. Historically it happened all the time, as reflected in the total-meter leaderboard. People routinely used to submit 300km+ days.... IIRC C2 put a 'deposit limit' on submittable meters to discourage the practice.*
* I vaguely recall a sizeable Forum row when someone posted an incredible amount of last-day meters (1 million?!) to take over what had looked like an unassailable first place....
* I vaguely recall a sizeable Forum row when someone posted an incredible amount of last-day meters (1 million?!) to take over what had looked like an unassailable first place....
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D.A. -- I remember that too.NavigationHazard wrote:I actually had in mind people entering a piled-up stack of results at the same time (especially end of the season) and not changing the default date from whatever "today" might be. Historically it happened all the time, as reflected in the total-meter leaderboard. People routinely used to submit 300km+ days.... IIRC C2 put a 'deposit limit' on submittable meters to discourage the practice.*
* I vaguely recall a sizeable Forum row when someone posted an incredible amount of last-day meters (1 million?!) to take over what had looked like an unassailable first place....
bikeerg 75 5'8" 155# - 18.5 - 51.9 - 568 - 1:52.7 - 8:03.8 - 20:13.1 - 14620 - 40:58.7 - 28855 - 1:23:48.0
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
Re: HRR v HR
That would be odd: % Max rate would yield proportionally equal resultsleadville wrote:I checked his stuff pretty carefully and didn't see a specific reference to HRR, and from reading the graphs and text it appears this is a % of max HR, not HRR.Mike wrote: -snip-
When speaking of "<75% max HR" I assume they mean HRR (the second R meaning reserve.
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for athletes with the same max rates and different resting pulse rates.
A lower resting pulse in people with the same max HRs is, I believe an indication in itself of a superior fitness level. Am I right? (I don't know)
The CV system would seem to have to do more work to get to a Higher HR.
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Re: HRR v HR
The most popular topic appears to be locked.mikvan52 wrote:In these two videos of CRASH-Bs ('08 & '09) I sorely felt the presence of the competition... Their names were even on my monitor along with how far behind or ahead they were at every moment.
CRASH-B 2008 55-59 lwt Roy on Right, mikvan52 in hat (no ranger!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wS__gM-c2c
CRASH-B 2009 55-59 lwt empty (ranger seat #4) vB #3, Roy #5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzBeDL8wdV4&NR=1
However, I am quite curious upon seeing the start of the 2nd video,
which was so painful to watch that I could not bear to watch it any longer!
Mike, whatever possessed you to row such a low rating in a race??
Surely that affected the difference in outcome from 2008 to 2009.
bikeerg 75 5'8" 155# - 18.5 - 51.9 - 568 - 1:52.7 - 8:03.8 - 20:13.1 - 14620 - 40:58.7 - 28855 - 1:23:48.0
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2