6:28 2K

[ranger]

I could make a joke about Xeno's Paradox.....

Nav--

If you pull about 12.5 SPI in a 2K, your ideal distance pace and rate is 1:37 @ 31 spm (10 MPS, 12.4 SPI).

That's 18.5K for 60min.

Right now, you aren't within 10 seconds per 500m of that.

Work to be done!



You only get better by confronting and overcoming your weaknesses.

ranger

[ranger]

I have settled into a steady 50-mile bike ride (at 20 mph) for my dailiy cross-training, about the equivalent in work of a FM on the erg.

Over the next six weeks, then, while I am sharpening, I'll ride my bike about 2000 miles, in addition to my rowing, about the distance from Detroit to L.A. (1981 miles).

Maybe I'll take the southern lloop døwn old Route 66, just før old times sake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm5DPlNCmtk

ranger

[NavigationHazard]

Frankly, I don't give a flying F for what you think I ought to do for 60 minutes. For someone who hasn't done a continuous 60' row in the last seven years, you're awfully prescriptive about others doing them.

You might want to work on your own weakness -- failure to perform as advertised -- before worrying about the rest of the rowing community's training.

[ranger]

Frankly, I don't give a flying F for what you think I ought to do for 60 minutes. For someone who hasn't done a continuous 60' row in the last seven years, you're awfully prescriptive about others doing them.

You might want to work on your own weakness -- failure to perform as advertised -- before worrying about the rest of the rowing community's training.

Big bear is pretty grumpy this morning.

Eat some Wheaties.

You'll feel better.

For old (Jon) Bone(s), caffeine helps, too.

ranger

[ranger]

You might want to work on your own weakness -- failure to perform as advertised --

My training is coming along great, Jon, and just as advertised.

I am now training right at my targets.

Last year I made weight at all of the race venues I went to and ended up pulling three seconds faster for 2K than anyone else my age and weight, without even preparing for it, just on the basis of foundational rowing, without any distance rowing or sharpening.

This year, I have been doing distance rowing for six months.

I will be sharpening for t he next six weeks.

I usually get about a dozen seconds over 2K from distance rowing and sharpening.

ranger

[mikvan52]

Man, the coffee's good this morning!
How about yours?

The 6-2-8 thread's a little dull, though... (yawn)
Very repetitive....

I will soon be hitting _all_ of the training bands!

Exciting stuff.

I haven't been fully trained since 2003

Love the word "soon".... Wonder what he means by it.
He's used it for years.
Well, guess it's time to get on with the day.

I've stopped checking the rankings for ranger's entry at 60 minutes 55+ light... No point looking any more. He hasn't been in it for 6 or more years.
I chalked up a 16,138 in the '08 standings. I think that's the best recent performance......Wonder if he's just going to skip posting in the 55-59 lwt entirely... Good chance of that. He only has a year left 'til he goes to an even greyer category, where the competition is as thin as my hair
Well, when you're only weighed in as "weighinable" {rangerism} lwt for a day or two a decade, I suppose that explains a lot.

* Note: a day has 24 hours in it (!)

I'll check back on this thread later to hear some "if-thens" and all that cool stuff about 2003.

Wish he'd name an unchangeable date that he'll time trial a 500m with me so he can confirm the claim he made about being 8 seconds faster than me. I've a feeling that I can go under 1:30. OOPS ! I said "feeling"


Medic !!!!

[snowleopard]

I have settled into a steady 50-mile bike ride (at 20 mph) for my dailiy cross-training, about the equivalent in work of a FM on the erg.

An FM on the erg at what pace?

(You don't average 20 mph on the bike btw.)

[mikvan52]

I will be sharpening for t he next six weeks.

About that 500m then:

Six weeks from now you will be seeing the fruits of your labor.

We can time trial the 500m on Tuesday, February 23rd.

What excuse are you going to use to say you can't row 60-70 strokes that week? More stepping needed??

That excuse won't work... This is an open weight challenge. Pork on up if you like.
You can choose most any day between now and then.

What do you say?

Have you forgotten your claim of Jan 14th so quickly:

As far as I can tell, the top ends of (mikvan52's) training bands are these:

UT2 1:57
UT1 1:52
AT 1:47
TR 1:42
AN 1:38
max 1:31

Mine are these:

UT2 1:49
UT1 1:44
AT 1:39
TR 1:34
AN 1:30
max 1:23

(with max = 500m trial pace)

The difference is eight seconds per 500m.

[hjs]

Man, the coffee's good this morning!
How about yours?

The 6-2-8 thread's a little dull, though... (yawn)
Very repetitive....

I will soon be hitting _all_ of the training bands!

I haven't been fully trained since 2003

Love the word "soon".... Wonder what he means by it.
He's used it for years.
Well, guess it's time to get on with the day.

yes very dull

Maybe we can make a Ranger dictionary.

Soon = never
naturall lightweight = someone who is above 75 kg most of the time
reporting = making things up
tomorrow = ignore
fine = I don,t have a clue were I am
spi x = I can do at least 1 stroke at power x
etc

............

[ranger]

I could make a joke about Xeno's Paradox.....

You have the wrong paradox.

The paradox with training is that as you do something over and over, you can do more and more of the same with less and less effort.

Your heart rate drops and stabilizes; and if you reach a comfortable steady state below your anaerobic threshold, you can extend the work for a considerable period, limited only by boredom and weariness, rather than oxygen debt.

ranger

[ranger]

For someone who hasn't done a continuous 60' row in the last seven years, you're awfully prescriptive about others doing them.

Distance rowing is my major strength.

I was a 10K, 20K, and marathon road racer for 25 years before taking up rowing.

I ran 10 miles a day, pretty much every day, for a quarter of a century.

For quite a while now, I have been working on my weaknesses (technique and stroking power), which I have now overcome, so I haven't bothered parading my strengths.

To get better, you need to work on your weaknesses.

That's the only thing I am being "prescriptive_ about.

ranger

[NavigationHazard]

For someone who hasn't done a continuous 60' row in the last seven years, you're awfully prescriptive about others doing them.

(bleat bleat bleat)

ranger

Have you done a continuous 60' row and ranked the results in the last seven years? No. Have you said you would and failed to follow through? Yes. Repeatedly.

All rattle and no snake. All cod and no piece.

[mikvan52]

To put ranger's 1:23 claim in perspective, let's examine a list from last year of all reported 500m performances from lightweights aged 40 years and older.

Note that ranger's claim to fame would not merely match the best time by all those over age 40 but would be superior by over 3 seconds

(I wonder if ranger is as well-versed in the discipline of statistics in addition to everything else? Then he could say "in the fall I will fall outside every bell curve that's ever been assembled")



RANKING RESULTS 2009

Indoor Rower | Individual and Race Results | 500m | Men's | Lightweight | (40–99) | 2009 Season


1 Duncan Paterson 44 AUS 1:26.4 IND_V
2 Rick Kranen 45 AUS 1:26.6 RACE
Mike Dawood 45 CAN 1:27.3 IND
3 Huub Nijs 41 NLD 1:28.2 IND
4 Duncan Paterson 44 AUS 1:28.3 RACE
5 Michael Dawood 45 CAN 1:28.7 RowPro
5 Gerard Robinson 41 GBR 1:28.7 IND
7 Gary Curtis 41 CZE 1:28.9 C2Log
8 Markku Henriksson 44 FIN 1:29.0 IND
9 Steven Hale 45 SWE 1:29.3 IND
10 Morten Eggum 46 NOR 1:29.4 RowPro
11 Odd Geir Aarrestad 48 NOR 1:29.5 IND
12 Kirby Tillotson 45 CAN 1:29.9 IND
13 Warrick Richards 44 NZL 1:30.0 RACE
14 Boris Bossi 40 CHE 1:30.2 IND
15 Michael van Beuren 56 USA 1:30.8 IND_V
16 Eric Leong 41 CAN 1:31.2 IND
17 George Bingham 47 GBR 1:31.5 IND
17 John Busk 55 DEN 1:31.5 IND
19 Tony Barbaro 41 AUS 1:31.6 IND
19 Pekka Huhtanen 53 FIN 1:31.6 IND

Oh, Rich:
FYI: somehow I found it in my self to row the 1:30.8 posted above w/o sharpening... go figure.

Note to spectators of this display of geriatric male posturing: (taunting ranger has no effect other than an off-topic reply that includes the number "2003")

[mikvan52]

All rattle and no snake. All cod and no piece.

Big hat = no cattle.

[Yankeerunner]

Frankly, I don't give a flying F for what you think I ought to do for 60 minutes. For someone who hasn't done a continuous 60' row in the last seven years, you're awfully prescriptive about others doing them.

You might want to work on your own weakness -- failure to perform as advertised -- before worrying about the rest of the rowing community's training.

If we were on Facebook I'd hit the 'like' button here.