6:28 2K

[chgoss]

As a non-WR holder I know my advice is not welcome here, but Rich, why not provide the board with what they seek? Nobody is asking you to race your training. All they want to see is a screenshot of your training sessions(....)

on further reflection, the response could be played many different ways:

1 it has been reported(2003 WR, since then he as raced more than anyone else, since then he has only been getting better, he has reported his 4 years of training to get to a 13 SPI, no one has ever gotten better)

2 it shouldnt be reported ("Work on general fitness, technique, stroking power, and endurance doesn't have much to do with the monitor at all")

3 it will be reported(he just finished distance rowing, he is now in the sharpening phase and will be posting screen shots of his sessions starting next Monday)

3 ignored

[ranger]

Today: 90min erg, 90min step at 290 watts

Body is really purring, steady state.

I am in _great_ shape.

My HR actually _fell_ during the third half hour of stepping.

30min 141 bpm
60min 145 bpm
90min 142 bpm

No effort at all.

Wasn't even sweating very much.

Could have gone twice as long.

Perhaps I will next time, just to grind off some more weight.

I step at 1150 calories/hour, which is comparable to 1:52 pace on the erg.

ranger

[mikvan52]

Oh, please, sir, may we have your average watts for the 90 minutes on the erg?

Or, by using the memory function:

1:30:00.0 - a # of meters - b avg. pace - c avg. spm - d avg. heart rate

This report does do it for me

Today: 90min erg

or was this a Phd RWB ?

[Nosmo]

That predicts that Paul will pull 6:42 when he is 60.

That will make him 20 seconds faster than you then


Say ranger, how did 16K @ 1:52/22 spm warmup go this morning? Where's the screenshot? If you can pull that one off then the 6:16 may not be pie in the sky.

Where's the daily weigh-in screenshot showing poundage and %age bodyfat?

I was curious too about that daily workout if it would be posted, also the screenshot daily of his weight as promised!

Steve

Steve, I really hope you didn't think there was any chance of either being posted.

[Steve G]

That will make him 20 seconds faster than you then


Say ranger, how did 16K @ 1:52/22 spm warmup go this morning? Where's the screenshot? If you can pull that one off then the 6:16 may not be pie in the sky.

Where's the daily weigh-in screenshot showing poundage and %age bodyfat?

I was curious too about that daily workout if it would be posted, also the screenshot daily of his weight as promised!

Steve

Steve, I really hope you didn't think there was any chance of either being posted.

Been around on both forums to expect anything different.
Last 12 months promised oooodles of 500s at mega-pace
A Marathon of metres a day
Full Marathon
30K OTW and 30K erg per day
5K hard at the start of each session
12 hour bikathon!
16K+ in the hour and a daily shot of his weighing implement!

Result a big fat Zero!

Prove me wrong Rich, just one eeny teeny recorded time and distance, non stop that is!!
Thanks

[ranger]

the 'professor' (not the doer)

Being a professor also involves a lot of doing.

And I also do a lot of erging (and cross-training), about three hours a day.

What are _you_ doing these days for a job, Mike?

You never mention it.

BTW, did you miss my question about your UT training base?

What kind of UT base are you working with in your sharpening?

You can read your 2K right off your base.

No need for us to pay any attention to your sharpening, much less the deluge of detail you parade, except noting that you are doing it.

Sharpening just brings out the potential you generate in your training base.

If you do 60min at 1:51, then you are not going to do a 2K faster than 1:41/6:44.

If you do 90min with a UT2 HR (for you, a 125 bpm) at 1:56, you are not going to do a 2K faster than 1:41/6:44.

Your sharpening will have no effect of these limitations.

ranger

[ranger]

I think I can now do 1:44 for 60min at UT1, 1:49 for 90min at UT2.

Nice!

Right on my targets.

So!

It's on to sharpening.

Stroke feels great.

Weight is right at 165 lbs., and with the combination of my diet, which I am now following strictly, and my extensive cross-training, which I am now doing regularly, I am losing weight every day from there.

I am in _great_ shape.

HUGE base.

Seven weeks until the end of the indoor racing season.

ranger

[snowleopard]

I think I can now do 1:44 for 60min at UT1, 1:49 for 90min at UT2.

Don't be such an effin stupid troll.

You will barely be under 7:00 (1:44) for just 2K in your first race. In the space of a day your UT2 has gone from 1:52 for 60 mins to 1:49 for 90 mins.

Does your therapist ever see your postings? Or is this _base_ stupidity part of your treatment?

[mikvan52]

....did you miss my question about your UT training base?

What kind of UT base are you working with in your sharpening?

You can read your 2K right off your base.

No need for us to pay any attention to your sharpening, much less the deluge of detail you parade, except noting that you are doing it.

Sharpening just brings out the potential you generate in your training base.

If you do 60min at 1:51, then you are not going to do a 2K faster than 1:41/6:44.

If you do 90min with a UT2 HR (for you, a 125 bpm) at 1:56, you are not going to do a 2K faster than 1:41/6:44.

Your sharpening will have no effect of these limitations.

ranger

Please explain what you mean by UT training base. I'm too busy racing my workouts.
BTW: If you want to see my training, all you have to do is subscribe to Tom and CB Sands Bohrer's tbfit.com... That's the type of training I do.
The kind that takes Tom to the podium over and over at the Head of the Charles.
You'd DO well not to denigrate it, professor.

And don't cry "poor mouse" ie: I can't afford it... you're the self-professed millionaire. Tom and CB's routines are reasonably priced.

*this training took me to 1st place in 2008 (not '03!) at Crash-B
(55-59 lwt)

Here's an (yet another) example of the format the curious would like to see from you. It's what I just finished doing:

It shows what a PM4 says at the top when you select "details" once you've selected "Memory".....

3x15:00/2:00r

45:00.0 - 11430 - 1:58.1 - 19 - 128

15:00.0 - 3817 - 1:57.8 - 20 - 128
15:00.0 - 3795 - 1:58.5 - 19 - 128
15:00.0 - 3819 - 1:57.8 - 20 - 129

Tom's instructions were to limit my HR to 70% (me= 128 bpm)
and to limit my stroke rate to 18-20 spm.

What UT is that in your book, oh ye of infinite exercise physiological wisdom?
My sarcasm is prompted by your assurance that "since I do 60 min in blah-blah blah"
HTF do you know what I do?... You don't have access to my blog because of your penchant to just say negative things...

I would say that set of 2k-1500-1k I reported in full (and which you acknowledged reading) indicates something different than what you're so cock-sure about?

Rich: My limitations.... 2k in 6:37.5.
Come and sit in the stands in Boston next month after you fail to make weight. We can have a hot dog together and talk shop afterwards

[Nosmo]

45:00.0 - 11430 - 1:58.1 - 19 - 128

That is only 11.2 SPI clearly you don't row well.

BTW ranger, Mike's performance at the nationals in August far exceeds anything you have or will ever do on the erg.

[ranger]

I think I can now do 1:44 for 60min at UT1, 1:49 for 90min at UT2.

Don't be such an effin stupid troll.

You will barely be under 7:00 (1:44) for just 2K in your first race. In the space of a day your UT2 has gone from 1:52 for 60 mins to 1:49 for 90 mins.

Does your therapist ever see your postings? Or is this _base_ stupidity part of your treatment?

Actually, I _did_ see a therapist once, back in college.

But it only took me a few minutes to figure out that I was _much_ smarter than he was.

So that was it.

It dawned on me:

We are all on our own, and what we can do on our own, in all probability, is _much_ better than what society at large is stumbling along with.

No need for fools to tell us where to go, what to do.

ranger

[ranger]

3x15:00/2:00r

45:00.0 - 11430 - 1:58.1 - 19 - 128

15:00.0 - 3817 - 1:57.8 - 20 - 128
15:00.0 - 3795 - 1:58.5 - 19 - 128
15:00.0 - 3819 - 1:57.8 - 20 - 129

Yikes.

Why the rests in an easy UT2 row?

There's your UT2, though.

1:58.

So you can read your 2K right off of it:

6:52/1:43

ranger

[ranger]

I would say that set of 2k-1500-1k I reported in full (and which you acknowledged reading) indicates something different than what you're so cock-sure about?

I have never done 2K, 1500, 1K.

Useless stuff.

Try 4K, 3K, 2K, 1K, 500m.

Better.

ranger

[ranger]

Come and sit in the stands in Boston next month after you fail to make weight.

I don't have to make weight to row.

I can win the 55s hwts.

Then again, my weight this year is _much_ better than last year, and last year I made weight at every race I went to.

ranger

[ranger]

Rich: My limitations.... 2k in 6:37.5.

Nope.

Not a chance.

Not unless you can do 60min in 1:49.

ranger