Woohoo! Congratulations, Andrea, on achieving 3 million lifetime meters! We wish you many more!
Rowing while on a cruise (and NZ is one of my favorite destinations)....do they provide seatbelts during rough seas?
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Woohoo, Andrea!
Woohoo! Congratulations, Andrea, on achieving 3 million lifetime meters! We wish you many more!
Rowing while on a cruise (and NZ is one of my favorite destinations)....do they provide seatbelts during rough seas?
On the wrist issue - remember the erg is more like a scull than a sweep boat.
Sculling (2 oars) - the bar on the Model D is about the same diameter of typical sculling oars. On the drive, the handle should be in your fingers, not your palms. You don't need a death grip on the oars! The wrists should be flat and in alignment with the palms and forearms. Only the fingers grasp the handle.
At the release, the palms grasp the handle and push the oar handle away- mostly with the area between the thumb and forefinger. The fingers release at the same time; again the hands are relaxed.
Sweep (1 oar) - the typical Sweep oar is about 2" in diameter. Each hand operates differently, one pulls, one feathers the blade. The release motion is like wringing a washcloth, one wrist is bent, the other straight. But again, on the drive the oar is held in the fingers and the wrists are straight.
In short, your wrist should be flat and relaxed, try holding the handle mostly with your fingers. And yes, the elbows should flare out. I'd like the handle to rotate like oars do, but I think that would be an engineering nightmare.
On a personal note, I did a 2K time trial last night...8:04.2! I sent off the entry form for the race on 1/24/10. I haven't raced in almost 30 years; so I am a bit nervous. Last year's winning time in my age bracket was 9:09. The winner in the next youngest group was 7:48...but I she won't be in my age bracket until next year!
Gina
Sculling (2 oars) - the bar on the Model D is about the same diameter of typical sculling oars. On the drive, the handle should be in your fingers, not your palms. You don't need a death grip on the oars! The wrists should be flat and in alignment with the palms and forearms. Only the fingers grasp the handle.
At the release, the palms grasp the handle and push the oar handle away- mostly with the area between the thumb and forefinger. The fingers release at the same time; again the hands are relaxed.
Sweep (1 oar) - the typical Sweep oar is about 2" in diameter. Each hand operates differently, one pulls, one feathers the blade. The release motion is like wringing a washcloth, one wrist is bent, the other straight. But again, on the drive the oar is held in the fingers and the wrists are straight.
In short, your wrist should be flat and relaxed, try holding the handle mostly with your fingers. And yes, the elbows should flare out. I'd like the handle to rotate like oars do, but I think that would be an engineering nightmare.
On a personal note, I did a 2K time trial last night...8:04.2! I sent off the entry form for the race on 1/24/10. I haven't raced in almost 30 years; so I am a bit nervous. Last year's winning time in my age bracket was 9:09. The winner in the next youngest group was 7:48...but I she won't be in my age bracket until next year!
Gina
Woohoo Gina!
Congrats on the time trial - and for setting out on a new adventure! We'll be cheering you on!
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Woot ! Woot! Congratulations Jim on achieving a TWO million meter season! We wish you many, many more!
I dunno know - must be some kind of fireworks show ...
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Congrats!
Jim - Congratulations on Achieving Two Million Meters for this Season! Way to Row!
Gina - I appreciate your point of view on keeping a Concept rower handle true to the dimensions of sculling oars. A rowing simulator and trainer is definitely a Concept's intended use. But I'm kinda out of the picture as far as using my Concept for actual 2K and 4K on the water race sprint training. My focus is my comfort, less blisters, less aches and pains in using a Concept for an hour or more continuous workout to build/maintain my endurance. All I know is what works better for me for dimensions on a pulling grip when the pulling must last for hours and hours. My rant is over. I'll be quiet now, but I just may head off to my workshop and see if I can come up with my concept of a better Concept handle.
And Way to Row on your 2K time Gina!
Gina - I appreciate your point of view on keeping a Concept rower handle true to the dimensions of sculling oars. A rowing simulator and trainer is definitely a Concept's intended use. But I'm kinda out of the picture as far as using my Concept for actual 2K and 4K on the water race sprint training. My focus is my comfort, less blisters, less aches and pains in using a Concept for an hour or more continuous workout to build/maintain my endurance. All I know is what works better for me for dimensions on a pulling grip when the pulling must last for hours and hours. My rant is over. I'll be quiet now, but I just may head off to my workshop and see if I can come up with my concept of a better Concept handle.
And Way to Row on your 2K time Gina!
Luna-Tics Virtual Team Progress: Thru Day 11 of 31
Our destination awaits! Crew roster will be finalized in 3 days!
Yep. Sea monsters. We're in unchartered territory on the virtual challenge map....and it's as if we are kept in our place on the virtual teams list. The Ancients draw near and RowPro rows just out of reach...taunting just a bit. Let's dig deep and crank it up! 1 Age Without Limits Virtual Club 19,451,442
2 Free Spirits Virtual Club 8,265,649
3 RowPro Online Virtual Club 5,830,127
4 LUNA-TICS Virtual Club 5,554,615
5 THE ANCIENTS Virtual Club 5,285,950
6 Team Canada Virtual Club 4,585,829
7 ARIEL TOY Virtual Club 4,068,281
8 HAVK Mladost Rowing Club 3,582,920
9 Community Rowing, Inc Rowing Club 3,576,553
10 TIMBUK2 Virtual Club 3,142,259
Thanks to all the rowing challenge team Luna-Tics! Stellar performances!
1 Eric Nelson 390,000
2 Bart Valgaeren 332,000
3 Chris Tudury 220,970
4 Will Salach 209,770
5 Darryl Bathel 200,541
6 Kiba Chan 200,000
7 barbara grandberg 198,928
8 Tim Porter 177,285
9 Tracy Clark 175,294
10 Daniel Cox 175,098
11 Barry O'Malley 159,131
12 Ted Cowley-Gilbert 148,194
13 Mike Mulvihill 136,175
14 David A. Alden 132,075
15 Rodrigo Garcia 128,885
16 Dan McInerney 116,183
17 Melissa Talbot 100,936
18 Mitch Johnson 99,018
19 Jim Brink 98,945
20 Jan Stevenson 86,000
21 Rick Carveth 83,033
22 Steve Overland 80,292
23 Gina Levy 77,496
24 Richard Miller 76,598
25 Peter Huurman 74,695
26 Karyn Gallagher 70,706
27 Kenneth Guenther 67,176
28 Greg Halac 63,643
29 Robert Hess 63,597
30 peter verdirame 63,500
31 David Ballard 60,000
32 Steven Larky 58,777
33 David Hunter 56,194
34 BJ Kinkade 54,088
35 John Marsh 53,158
36 Karon Baucum 52,190
37 John Longmire 50,636
38 Michael Leonard 46,000
39 Andy Ward 45,000
40 Dave Hunter 43,887
41 Nigel Greene 40,886
42 Roger Evens 40,228
43 Chris Harbourt 39,558
44 Anne Nelson 37,500
45 AJ Tudury 36,892
46 Duncan Tyler 36,818
47 Anthony Parendo 36,663
48 Kristine Strasburger 36,447
49 Teresa Robertson 36,026
50 Andre Dumais 35,546
51 Gail Whitelaw 30,000
52 Ben Strasburger 29,978
53 Lauren C 29,220
54 Thomas Jung 28,000
55 Gloria Miller 25,555
56 Mike Crossley 24,000
57 Will Worthwine 23,661
58 Greg Childs 20,981
59 Tom Rosengarth 20,736
60 Susan Wacaster 20,628
61 Andrea Cosmin 19,336
62 Ian Ferguson 18,508
63 Jane Newall 17,727
64 Chris Czech 15,000
65 Matt Forsbacka 15,000
66 Dana Smith 14,379
67 Jurn Wingelaar 12,710
68 Steven Drews 12,420
69 Dawn Howe 11,000
70 Bill Lamon 10,036
71 Nils Eddy 9,295
72 Scott 8,500
73 Garry Crone 6,014
74 Gary Prohaska 6,000
75 Eva-Kristin Schuster 6,000
76 John Dunlop 5,000
77 Tim Strasburger 4,701
78 Tibby Kull 3,200
79 Orion Newall-Vuillemot 2,000
80 Mary Harper 1,614
81 Terry Miele 500
82 Akira N 131
83 Anais Newall-Vuillemot 127
Row...row.....and row some more!
wrist issue
Bearing in mind that I can't imagine the difference between a scull and a sweep ... I paid attention yesterday to how I hold the erg handle. I think that I'm actually doing what you're recommending. Also, I have callouses on my middle three finger joints, but not where my palms meet my fingers. (Very dainty, my lumberjack hands.)acrewer wrote:On the wrist issue - remember the erg is more like a scull than a sweep boat. Gina
Great time trial. Where is the race? Too bad that SoCal is so far away from NorCal, I'd love to watch.
Luna-Tics Team Progress: Thru 1.11.10
Whoa....there are three sets of number pranksters today (this will be a good challenge!).... is one of these a prime number...
Very cool, isn't it?! Thanks to photobucket contributor!
Darryl, seeking some outdoor time, mixes it up with some on snow meters in addition to rowing meters. Should have known that our forward facing canoeist would lead us down a new pathway from time to time...Aussies, so far I think water skiing is out in terms of meter calculations...
Season meters as of 256/365 = 81,949,216 m
Total meters on the day = 408,500 m (erg); 4,000 m (snow)
Oars in space (participation) = 30 percent
MILESTONES....Bragging Rights.....Celebrations:
4.7 MM Bart
2.0 MM Jim
900K Mike C
300K Jane
200K Dan M
BJK posts a red giant's worth of catchup meters with 54,088 m!
Bart with 30,000 m gets a half moon!
Barbara with half marathon/moon # 134 stops 2,172 m short of her 4 millionth meter...what a teaser!
Tim with half marathon # 26...and back to back half marathons!
Darryl with 4K ...our first on snow meters recorded!
FOUR Million Meter Watch:
Barbara with (2,172 m) to go!
TWO Million Meter Watch:
Peter H with (81,844 m) to go!
ONE Million Meter Watch:
Mike C with (90,564 m) to go! He's cracked the 100K barrier!
Tracy with (149,488 m) to go! She's cracked the 150K barrier
And thanks to all today's crew for all your meters...however you got them! Each one helps us get closer to the moooooon!
Peter G 1,500 m
Tony
m
Matt 5,000 m
Bill 5,022 m
G - l- o - r - i - a 
m
Karon 6,000 m
Jane 6,503 m
Karyn 8,451 m
Gina 8,503 m
Teresa 8,543 m
Chris 10,000 m ...must have been out dancing again...
Rich 10,500 m
Peter H...some say
might be a prime number...**
Ted 12,000 m
K2 12,000 m
Mike C 12,000 m
Greg H 12,501 m
Dan M 13,017 m
Rick 13,251 m
Rodrigo 14,259 m
Mike M 15,000 m
Jim 15,034 m
Andre 16,562 m
Tracy 18,023 m
Darryl 18,335 m + 4,000 m on snow
Will S 20,032 m
Tim 21,097 m
Barbara 21,270 m
Bart 30,000 m
BJ 54,088 m
Have a blue sky rowing day wherever you row! Or ski. Or live (which is, after all, what this is all about!).
Very cool, isn't it?! Thanks to photobucket contributor!Darryl, seeking some outdoor time, mixes it up with some on snow meters in addition to rowing meters. Should have known that our forward facing canoeist would lead us down a new pathway from time to time...Aussies, so far I think water skiing is out in terms of meter calculations...
Season meters as of 256/365 = 81,949,216 m
Total meters on the day = 408,500 m (erg); 4,000 m (snow)
Oars in space (participation) = 30 percent
MILESTONES....Bragging Rights.....Celebrations:
4.7 MM Bart
2.0 MM Jim
900K Mike C
300K Jane
200K Dan M
BJK posts a red giant's worth of catchup meters with 54,088 m! Bart with 30,000 m gets a half moon! Barbara with half marathon/moon # 134 stops 2,172 m short of her 4 millionth meter...what a teaser! Tim with half marathon # 26...and back to back half marathons! Darryl with 4K ...our first on snow meters recorded!FOUR Million Meter Watch:
Barbara with (2,172 m) to go!
TWO Million Meter Watch:
Peter H with (81,844 m) to go!
ONE Million Meter Watch:
Mike C with (90,564 m) to go! He's cracked the 100K barrier!
Tracy with (149,488 m) to go! She's cracked the 150K barrier
And thanks to all today's crew for all your meters...however you got them! Each one helps us get closer to the moooooon!
Peter G 1,500 m
Tony
mMatt 5,000 m
Bill 5,022 m
G - l- o - r - i - a mKaron 6,000 m
Jane 6,503 m
Karyn 8,451 m
Gina 8,503 m
Teresa 8,543 m
Chris 10,000 m ...must have been out dancing again...
Rich 10,500 m
Peter H...some say
might be a prime number...**Ted 12,000 m
K2 12,000 m
Mike C 12,000 m
Greg H 12,501 m
Dan M 13,017 m
Rick 13,251 m
Rodrigo 14,259 m
Mike M 15,000 m
Jim 15,034 m
Andre 16,562 m
Tracy 18,023 m
Darryl 18,335 m + 4,000 m on snow
Will S 20,032 m
Tim 21,097 m
Barbara 21,270 m
Bart 30,000 m
BJ 54,088 m
Have a blue sky rowing day wherever you row! Or ski. Or live (which is, after all, what this is all about!).
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Prime Number?
271 X 41 = 11111.
Still nice looking numbers.
Still nice looking numbers.
Re: wrist issue
If the callouses are on your fingers, you are holding it correctly. I rowed Starboard Sweep for 3 years...resulting in my right arm being 1" longer than my left! One year rowing on Port didn't help.just27 wrote:
Bearing in mind that I can't imagine the difference between a scull and a sweep ... I paid attention yesterday to how I hold the erg handle. I think that I'm actually doing what you're recommending. Also, I have callouses on my middle three finger joints, but not where my palms meet my fingers. (Very dainty, my lumberjack hands.)
Great time trial. Where is the race? Too bad that SoCal is so far away from NorCal, I'd love to watch.
The race is in Long Beach, at the Long Beach Rowing Association. The competition includes former Olympians. I told my son, this is like playing HORSE with Magic Johnso - I'm just a bit nervous! Will I start my sprint too early, too late? I have my race plan, I need to stick to it.
Gina
