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Post by ranger » January 11th, 2010, 6:43 am

mikvan52 wrote:Will you beef-up and go for the 55-59 hwt qualifying standard
No need to "beef up" or speed up.

I have qualified three times for WIRC as a heavyweight, two of them with sub-6:30 rows (6:27.5, 6:29.7).

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Post by hjs » January 11th, 2010, 6:57 am

ranger wrote:Weight is in good order this morning at my first weigh in, but certainly not as low as iI thought it might be.

Now, I just have to work hard and keep a strict diet and I should lose a pound a week or so until the end of the racing season.

That would put me down below 160 lbs.

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For someone who 's weight was fine month's ago, you have big big problems.

That's why a natural lightweight makes sure his eating is ok hole year round, why on earth would you let your fat % go up to 15/20 % ? Just keep it round 10 hole year round. Makes live so much easier.

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Post by ranger » January 11th, 2010, 7:21 am

rjw wrote:How do you know that improvements from technique are much more dramatic
I experience these dramatic improvements each time I row.

Time will tell in terms of races, etc.

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Post by ranger » January 11th, 2010, 7:25 am

hjs wrote:For someone who 's weight was fine month's ago, you have big big problems.
I have problems because I am now at weight three weeks before my first race and seven weeks before the end of the season?

Doesn't seem to be a problem to me.

Seems perfect.

Given how much work I do, with no special effort, just by watching what I eat, I will continue to lose a pound or so a week until the end of the indoor rowing season.

That should put me below 160 lbs. when I row in Chicago at the end of February.

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Post by NavigationHazard » January 11th, 2010, 7:34 am

I am talking about 2K WRs. They are really the only "records" in the sport.
Why? Just because you say they are?
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Post by eliotsmith » January 11th, 2010, 9:14 am

NavigationHazard wrote:
I am talking about 2K WRs. They are really the only "records" in the sport.
Why? Just because you say they are?
Remember, for an autodidact like ranger, everything you say is correct. When the only standard is what you say it is, always allowing yourself room to change that standard, everything becomes easy. No anchor hauling here!

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Post by hjs » January 11th, 2010, 9:16 am

ranger wrote:
hjs wrote:For someone who 's weight was fine month's ago, you have big big problems.
I have problems because I am now at weight three weeks before my first race and seven weeks before the end of the season?

Doesn't seem to be a problem to me.

Seems perfect.

Given how much work I do, with no special effort, just by watching what I eat, I will continue to lose a pound or so a week until the end of the indoor rowing season.

That should put me below 160 lbs. when I row in Chicago at the end of February.

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because historie will repeat itself, you are not at weight now so you have to focus on your weight instead of your training. Weightreduction will always make you weaker.

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Post by chgoss » January 11th, 2010, 9:39 am

ranger wrote:Weight is in good order this morning at my first weigh in, but certainly not as low as iI thought it might be.

Now, I just have to work hard and keep a strict diet and I should lose a pound a week or so until the end of the racing season.

That would put me down below 160 lbs.

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well, of course the missing piece of information is this: how much excercise did you do, after waking up, prior to this?

"It doesnt matter, people have to excercise to make weight all the time"

just a reminder, you had previously said:
On Jan 4, 2009 Ranger wrote: After next Monday, before each of my morning erg sessions for the next six weeks, I will weigh in when I get up.

Actually, the most interesting thing in that picture, is what it doesnt show.. namely the %body fat display that you have cropped out of the lower portion.. shame, shame :D
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Post by ranger » January 11th, 2010, 9:51 am

NavigationHazard wrote:
I am talking about 2K WRs. They are really the only "records" in the sport.
Why? Just because you say they are?
People get pbs on workouts all the time.

The other distances are just workouts, preparation for the 2K.

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Post by ranger » January 11th, 2010, 9:55 am

chgoss wrote:well, of course the missing piece of information is this:
Yes, I was patting my head and rubbing my stomach when I was standing on the scale, and that could have significantly affected what it registered.

I was also singing "Auld Lang Syne."

The updraft from the hot air coming from my mouth, which produced a marked upward torque on my face and head, certainly nullifies the significance of any reading on the scale.

:lol: :lol:

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Post by ranger » January 11th, 2010, 9:58 am

Sure, it will be much more relaxed when I can arrive at race venues with my morning weight below 160 lbs.

Perhaps that will happen this year.

My weight has never been better this early in the racing season, or my cross-training routines, so extensive and well established.

Doing _anything_ to make weight the morning of a race is a distraction that anyone would be happy to avoid, if they could.

In the past, I have had to work pretty hard, even on race day, to make weight.

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Post by ranger » January 11th, 2010, 10:09 am

eliotsmith wrote:
NavigationHazard wrote:
I am talking about 2K WRs. They are really the only "records" in the sport.
Why? Just because you say they are?
Remember, for an autodidact like ranger, everything you say is correct. When the only standard is what you say it is, always allowing yourself room to change that standard, everything becomes easy. No anchor hauling here!
Well, then why don't you'all go to WIRC this year and race in all the FMs, 10Ks, 500s, 1Ks, etc., on the race schedule.

Be my guest.

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Post by NavigationHazard » January 11th, 2010, 10:13 am

ranger wrote:
NavigationHazard wrote:
I am talking about 2K WRs. They are really the only "records" in the sport.
Why? Just because you say they are?
People get pbs on workouts all the time.

The other distances are just workouts, preparation for the 2K.

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And what's so special about the 2k distance? It's the standard FISA and US Rowing course length for some OTW rowers/events, but not for everyone or every event.
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Post by ranger » January 11th, 2010, 10:15 am

hjs wrote:because history will repeat itself
Depends on what history you are talking about.

Depends on what conditions you claim are repeating.

When I have been fully trained up for racing, my history of 2Ks is spectacular.

I am happy to have that history repeat itself!

Now, I am also rowing well, another advantage.

I have always struggled to make weight on race day, so if I can arrange things so that I don't have to worry about it, this would be a further advantage, compared to my performances historically.

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Post by ranger » January 11th, 2010, 10:18 am

NavigationHazard wrote:
ranger wrote:
NavigationHazard wrote: Why? Just because you say they are?
People get pbs on workouts all the time.

The other distances are just workouts, preparation for the 2K.

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And what's so special about the 2k distance? It's the standard FISA and US Rowing course length for some OTW rowers/events, but not for everyone or every event.
This isn't OTW rowing.

This is indoor rowing.

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