6:28 2K

[ranger]

Yesterday, 90min erg, 2 hour bike.

This morning, 90min erg, 2 hour bike.

Training is coming along great.

I am rowing right at my targets.

Starting to sharpen now.

Weight is now in order.

ranger

[Wilbury]

Maybe someone else (or everyone else) has asked this same question in the previous 115 pages: Where in the hell is this thread going? If someone new to this site looked at this long-winded excercise in futility they would probably think twice about rowing. Is there an end in sight?

[KevJGK]

Is there an end in sight?

No.

[hjs]

Maybe someone else (or everyone else) has asked this same question in the previous 115 pages: Where in the hell is this thread going? If someone new to this site looked at this long-winded excercise in futility they would probably think twice about rowing. Is there an end in sight?

This thread nmbr xx in a periode of 7 years. The only good think in those periode are the racing results. That's the only time we will see real results and the outcome is always great Last year his string off wr started with a 7.30

So patience, in a few weeks his first disaster race will come in, if he makes weight that is.

That won't stop this or a new thread though

[mikvan52]

YAWN!

To get back to the rowing {something that our prof. evidently did not do yesterday}{as he is en couches avec ses poids rather than training}

What do you make of these?:
50-59 lwt results where it lists the French record as 6:31.6
Is that the disallowed one from the notable Frenchman who once had the 50-59 2k record?

BTW: M. Hammachi looks like he's building up a head of steam again! watch out! Does he turn 55 soon?

I want to know about Frederic, the Dane, who still spins in the 6:30's and has just turned 55!

HOMMES , POIDS LEGERS 50-59
Records: du monde: 06:38.1 / de France: 06:31.6 / Open C2: 06:32.4

1 HAMMACHI Mouss. UFAS 06:48.1
2 PEREZ Tony TOULON AV 06:52.4
3 BOYER Eric PARIS ASPP 06:55.1
4 GORIN Jean pierre UFAS 07:00.9
5 DEVEZ Daniel PORT-MARLY RC 07:08.5
6 DROUARD Pierre MAISONS MESNIL CERAMM 07:08.9
7 DE LA BROSSE Pierre SFR 07:10.4
8 MERTENS Michel MMTS 07:13.2
9 CHAMROUX Georges EVRY ENVC 07:19.5
10 ARVEILLER Remi EVRY ENVC 07:28.6

Funny how recent results are more interesting to me than "prof'-ecy"

[NavigationHazard]

BTW, I don't know what rate he used, but 1:44 was just the pace that Rod Freed used for his famous 2 x 30min workouts.

(snip)

ranger

This morning, 90min erg, 2 hour bike

(snip)

ranger

Ah yes. The old 3 hours 30 minutes of workout in between posts 2 hours 54 minutes apart. I remember that one well.



Must be those seven Bergsonian seconds per 500m again....

[ranger]

Ranger, whose OTW sculling, as demonstrated in his video, is worse than horrid

Yes, I am still a complete novice OTW, so my sculling in the video is pretty bad, even though I am going 2:00 @ 30 spm, right about as fast as the better scullers in a 60s 1K at the US Nationals.

Note: the video is almost two years old.

I am quite a bit better now.

Now, I am rigged higher, so I clear my blades more easily. I have lost the gloves, so I have a looser grip. I square up much better at the catch. I have leveled out my pull. I have better finishes and recoveries, so can get the rate up more easily. And so forth.

I will be bettter yet this next year, and better yet the next year, when I will race at the Head of the Charles.

This coming year will be my first big year OTW, because I will have reached all of my goals on the erg, and can leave indoor rowing behind entirely in the spring, summer, and fall.

I can do all of my training OTW, hopefully 20K-30K a day.

The Huron River goes right by my subdivision. I live within a few hundred meters of it.

ranger

[Steve G]

Yesterday, 90min erg, 2 hour bike.

This morning, 90min erg, 2 hour bike.

Training is coming along great.

I am rowing right at my targets.

Starting to sharpen now.

Weight is now in order.

ranger

Did I miss the 12 hour bikathon?!

[ranger]

The old 3 hours 30 minutes of workout in between posts 2 hours 54 minutes apart.

I take a bit of a break between each hour on my bike--to towel off, change the CD, etc.

ranger

[ranger]

Yesterday, 90min erg, 2 hour bike.

This morning, 90min erg, 2 hour bike.

Training is coming along great.

I am rowing right at my targets.

Starting to sharpen now.

Weight is now in order.

ranger

Did I miss the 12 hour bikathon?!

Yea, I missed it, too.

But I put in a couple of hours.

Perhaps I'll try it this next week.

As it turned out, 12 hours was a little much to get up for after six hours the day before.

I put in two hours yesterday and two hours today.

ranger

[ranger]

50-59 lwt results where it lists the French record as 6:31.6

Yep, that's Jean-Paul Tardieu's former world record, the one I broke (6:30) at WIRC 2003 and then again (6:29) in my USIRT trial in October 2003 and then again (6:28) in November at BIRC 2003.

ranger

[ranger]

Maybe someone else (or everyone else) has asked this same question in the previous 115 pages: Where in the hell is this thread going? If someone new to this site looked at this long-winded excercise in futility they would probably think twice about rowing. Is there an end in sight?

Futility?

I don't know.

I had the best 2K in my age and weight division this last year, three seconds better than the 55s lwt WR-holder and a second under the 60s lwt WR, even though I didn't prepare for it, just on the basis of foundational training at low rates, with no distance rowing or sharpening.

This year, I did distance rowing for six months.

I will be sharpening for the next six weeks.

I no longer do foundational rowing.

That work is complete.

I usually get about a dozen seconds each over 2K from distance rowing and sharpening.

ranger

[mikvan52]

Maybe someone else (or everyone else) has asked this same question : Where in the hell is this thread going? If someone new to this site looked at this long-winded excercise in futility they would probably think twice about rowing.

Reading about ranger has nothing to do with rowing.

This thread is a case study in psychological be-ha-ha-havior (read: joking fantasy).

A chrysalis of a rare insect seems to sit on our lab bench before us, one that exhibits elements of two rare syndromes: Asperger's & Munchhausen's. Cyberspace lends a vague credence to the claims of this individual.
Perhaps, too, the ergers here seek what you call "an exercise in futility" by focusing on things like ranger's 6:16 2k as a 59 year-old homo sapiens weighed in at less than 165 earth-pounds.

Rich has a point when he writes of (us) sitting in the stands with a hot dog and popcorn. This is a spectator's thread, not a "doer's" thread.

I don't see how it discourages ergo-exercise unless a reader is tricked into thinking we are talking about real workouts with a reported time associated with a distance.

I would like to choose that Rich's online behavior is a ploy or an act. He's sort of a gadfly who oversteps polite regions and lands on peoples softer parts. Witness his willingness to let people know that they 'aren't any good'... He doesn't really mean it, no matter how much he insists he does.
To stay in character he never says: " Oh, I'm sorry, did I step on your face!"

~Notice the absence of the young in these discussions: They see right through this lame banter; they see this thread as mostly made up of potentially dyspeptic older people interested in dreaming about unattainable erg scores.

Short comment: This thread does not discourage me from rowing because it's not about rowing.
Why?
rowing includes details about workouts: We are satisfied that we won't get details here... It's "banter".

As for the behavior those who respond to him: I'll rate my behavior only:
POOR

[chgoss]

Is there an end in sight?

No.

Here's what it will look like in 2 years:
http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.p ... &sk=t&sd=a

[sheehc]

Mikvan52: Just noticed your post on Tardieu......why was his record disallowed? I hadn't heard that prior to now, but then again, I'm not hooked into the indoor competition world so this may be common knowledge to you guys.