6:28 2K

[snowleopard]

my eyes and ears are younger than yours

Clearly, given your naivite and deception.

Where are _your_ times, my son.

No signature?

No results?

No name?

Hmm.

I am told that trolls tend to be more active in winter and that they especially like the Christmas season.



ranger

You seem to be confusing naivety with nativity without getting either correct. There's no troll like an old troll, especially those that serially respond to themselves.

Consider: you acknowledge that you cannot look like a 20 yo, but you think you can row like one. Form and function.

[ranger]

Consider: you acknowledge that you cannot look like a 20 yo, but you think you can row like one. Form and function.

In many sports, andi n much of life more generally, beauty's only skin deep.

Yea, yea, yea.

Truth and beauty are not at all the same thing.

The erg is a truth machine, not a beauty parlor.

If you are interested in beauty, sell your erg and get a mirror.

It's hard to comb your hair and pull the handle at the same time.

And sweat is unsightly.

ranger

[ranger]

No signature?

No results?

No name?

Hmm.

It's a brave new world:

O wonder!

How many goodly creatures are there here!

How beauteous mankind is!

O brave new world!

That has such people in't!

ranger

[hjs]

No, I mean why in your shirtless video nasty is your body heading south?

You seem to be deaf and blind.

As erg times reflect, most bodies go south at about 30.

Next year I'll be 60.

Not much to be done about making a 60-year-old body look like a 20-year-old body, if that's what you think I should look like.

At the moment, my concern is much more with rate than weight.

Given my stroking power now, if I can pull 36 spm for 2K, I'll row 6:16.

Weight is irrelevant to that.

That breaks the 55s hwt WR by 2 seconds; the 60s hwt WR by 6 seconds.

I am very comfortable at 36 spm.

Given my size, that's my normal race rate when I am fully trained.

That's what I rated for 2K back in 2003.

So it's time to get excited and let it rip.

If I row a lwt 6:16 at 60, the question will not "why am I so flabby" but "how did a flabby 60-year-old man row under the lightweight erg standard for the US National Team and, at the same time, faster than any lightweight beyond their 30s."

Or this:

"How did a male WR-holder, 40-70, train himself to be so much better after so many years, when, up until now, all male WR-holders, 40-70, have only gotten worse--and then much worse--and then, much, much worse?"

I am neither deaf nor blind and my eyes and ears are younger than yours. I have seen the evidence in your video. You're out of shape porky.

Hmm, yes, porky pies. You must be eating them as well as telling them?

And when it comes to your achievements I hear nothing but silence. Or rather I hear a repetitive echo of bullshit that's as annoying as tinnitus.

Or does one just smell bullshit? Either way, one's senses are overwhelmed.

Maybe he should start at eating contests, with al his "training" he still stay's relative fat, he must be eating a ton of food every day

[ranger]

Yuumy.

Food.

Yummy.

ranger

[ranger]

How about this:

If you can do a FM at 26 spm with good technquie, you can do a 2K at 36 spm, holding your technique steady.

The only question then is this:

How good is your technique?

Last year, Rocket Roy did a FM at 26 spm and a 2K at 36 spm.

How good iwas his technique?

9.5 SPI

ranger

[hjs]

Yuumy.

Food.

Yummy.

ranger

Oops, yes I did it again, didn,t make weight, I have no idea why

[ranger]

Yuumy.

Food.

Yummy.

ranger

Oops, yes I did it again, didn,t make weight, I have no idea why

No longer any need to make weight.

I row, stroke for stroke, with the heavyweights.

Although I'll make weight anyway, just to be outrageous.

No 60s lwt has ever pulled more than 10 SPI.

The norm, even among the best, is closer to 9 SPI.

ranger

[Rocket Roy]

Any rows done yet?

beaten that pesky 6.38.1 yet?

Official WRs have to be pulled in races, anyway.

ranger

Yes but given that you will be doing a 6.16 in feb then surely you can pull an unofficial WR now at home? No?

[ranger]

Any rows done yet?

beaten that pesky 6.38.1 yet?

Official WRs have to be pulled in races, anyway.

ranger

Yes but given that you will be doing a 6.16 in feb then surely you can pull an unofficial WR now at home? No?

Before I sharpen?

Why?

If I pull 6:16 when I am fully trained, that will be quite a bit faster than 6:38, no?

So why bother with it now?

WRs need to be pulled in a race.

My first race is in a month, at the end of January.

ranger

[ranger]

Any rows done yet?

beaten that pesky 6.38.1 yet?

No, you don't seem to done any, much less any faster than 6:38.

You will have to do 20 seconds or so faster than that to defend your WR.

So when is your first race?

How is the weight these days?

ranger

[chgoss]

When will you start your "sharpening" phase?

As soon as possible.

Six weeks until WIRC, a month to my first race.

As I said, I will now do a lot of rowing at 36 spm, working this up to race pace 500s, 1:34 @ 36 spm.

I can do 20 race pace 500s (paddle a 500m in between).

HR should return to about 120 bpm between intervals.

ranger

So, you're going to start sharpening sessions prior to completing distance training?.

[ranger]

When will you start your "sharpening" phase?

As soon as possible.

Six weeks until WIRC, a month to my first race.

As I said, I will now do a lot of rowing at 36 spm, working this up to race pace 500s, 1:34 @ 36 spm.

I can do 20 race pace 500s (paddle a 500m in between).

HR should return to about 120 bpm between intervals.

ranger

So, you're going to start sharpening sessions prior to completing distance training?.

No.

But I am going to work up some race pace 500s as I am doing distance trials.

This is just a little øverlapping/transitioning/hinging as I go from pre-sharpening to sharpening.

I do 8 x 500 (3:30 rest) at 2K - 3, not at 2K.

I should be able to do 20 x 500m at 2K.

So there is still some substantial distance in this sort of fartlek workout.

20K in all.

ranger

[chgoss]

As soon as possible.

Six weeks until WIRC, a month to my first race.

As I said, I will now do a lot of rowing at 36 spm, working this up to race pace 500s, 1:34 @ 36 spm.

I can do 20 race pace 500s (paddle a 500m in between).

HR should return to about 120 bpm between intervals.

ranger

So, you're going to start sharpening sessions prior to completing distance training?.

No.

But I am going to work up some race pace 500s as I am doing distance trials.

This is just a little øverlapping/transitioning/hinging as I go from pre-sharpening to sharpening.

ranger

So:
- you havent finished distance rowing, as you have not completed a trial indicating you are within 12 seconds of your target 6:16 2k.
- seeing that you are now only 4 weeks from your first race, you are starting sharpening work outs anyway.

same as last couple years.. premature abandonment of foundational and distance rowing..

[ranger]

same as last couple years

So you say.

But are you right?

You are right that I don't know how things are going to come out.

Sure, I am now in new territory with my project of learning to row well.

But you are wrong that I am in the same place as I have been for the last seven years.

This year, things are going _very_ well.

I now have a beautifully relaxed distance stroke at 10 MPS, right up the 10 MPS ladder.

Amazingly, I now do 1:47 @ 28 spm (10 SPI) at right around a UT2 heartrate, 145 bpm.

Why?

I am only at half slide.

I use this stroke when I warm up.

When I lengthen out a bit, a get 1:43 @ 29 spm (11 SPI), keeping the ratio constant.

And when I lengthen out to my racing stroke, I go 1:40 @ 30 spm (11.7 SPI).

11.7 will be my racing SPI.

The goal before the end of January will be 4 x 2K, 1:40 @ 30 spm, pulling right at 10 MPS and my racing SPI, 11.7 SPI.

That will predict a 1:36./6:24 2K.

Another goal over the next month will be 5K, 1:40 @ 30 spm (11.7).

That predicts a 6:20 2K.

Then I will hold it at 11.7 SPI but lift the rate to 36-40 spm, trading rate for pace as much as possible, and push it to the max for 8 x 500 (3:30 rest) during February.

I started a pretty severe diet yesterday.

I am now losing weight--hand over fist, heading for 160 lbs, 10% body fat, by the end of January.

Great set up at home now in order to get all of this done.

Vacation from work.

And no one is here.

Just me and the spiders on the wall.

And my bike, erg, and jump rope.

So for the next two weeks, I can be my crazy physical self to my heart's content.

Time to let it rip.

ranger