6:28 2K

ranger · Post by **ranger** » November 25th, 2009, 5:18 pm

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ranger · Post by **ranger** » November 25th, 2009, 5:20 pm

The 55s lwt gold at WIRC 2009 pulled 1:45.5 @ 32 spm, 9.4 SPI.

This is almost exactly the stroking power of Rocket Roy and Mike VB at WIRC 2009.

So?

The problem is stroking power.

You are never going anywhere very fast if you only pull 9.5 SPI.

Elite lightweights pull 11.5 SPI, not 9.5 SPI.

ranger

kini62 · Post by **kini62** » November 25th, 2009, 5:25 pm

I just rowed 5:30 2K this morning, but wouldn't you just know that my camera broke, the batteries in my PM died so I couldn't verify it. See, anyone can make BS claims without any evidence to back them up. Plus I haven't sharpened or trained to race either. Damn I'm good!

bloomp · Post by **bloomp** » November 25th, 2009, 5:56 pm

ranger wrote:
bloomp wrote:I have a harder time believing he can do anything close to 20mph after doing a 20k at the paces he claims to be 'comfortable' at.

Rich, as a professor you have a B.S. - Bull Shit. Possibly an M.S. - More Shit. Then I'm positive you got that PhD - Piled HIGH AND DEEP.
Bullshit and WRs on the erg are incompatible.

No?

The erg is a truth machine.

Sure, most professors are full of shit.

Then again, few professors have three WR rows on the erg.

If you are pulling 7:00 on the erg and the WR for you is 6:00, what might _that_ imply?

When you answer, don't give me a lot of B.S.

Just the truth.

ranger

Rich, I've never come around here claiming to pull a 6:00 2k. I've never bothered to challenge that WR because I realize how much training it takes. In the next six months, I will pull something in the 6:40s. In the next three years, I know I have the ability to get that down to the 6:20s. But I don't talk a lot of shit and expect everyone to suck my wanky because I throw around impressive numbers and mock people that come around here and behave like normal and modest human beings.

ranger wrote:I am not sure what you are implying here.

That everyone is deserving of equal respect, regardless of their talent, skill, commitment, achievement, etc.?

That's a pretty unreal view.

Life is hard.

Then you die.

The erg is a truth machine, not some convenient excuse for incompetence, inability, laziness, apathy, failure, etc.

ranger

As for this, everyone does deserve respect for wanting to improve. There is a different respect for someone that wins and someone that still works hard. I respect the fat people on the treadmill at the gym because at least they're trying to change themselves. I don't respect you because you don't contribute positively to a community that has prided itself on being tight knit, friendly and supportive. That's what rowing (CREW) is about, not you sitting on your high horse and boasting.

If the erg is such a machine, then why don't you tell us what it says about you? Scared? I still think it is HILARIOUS that you pulled a 7:30 2k earlier this year.

I've not pulled a 2k that slow since my senior year of high school! I was 16! I hadn't ever done endurance work on the erg, ever! And you think you can pull a 6:16. Pathetic.

Paul

whp4 · Post by **whp4** » November 26th, 2009, 1:18 am

ranger wrote: Bullshit and WRs on the erg are incompatible.

The erg is a truth machine.

Sure, most professors are full of shit.

Yep, you're full of shit, the erg proves it, and the only WR you have is for number of posts to the C2 UK forum.

ranger · Post by **ranger** » November 26th, 2009, 6:54 am

whp4 wrote:
ranger wrote: Bullshit and WRs on the erg are incompatible.

The erg is a truth machine.

Sure, most professors are full of shit.
Yep, you're full of shit, the erg proves it, and the only WR you have is for number of posts to the C2 UK forum.

Nope.

Once you have rowed a WR, you've always rowed iWR.

Fait accompli.

Facts are facts.

Once you have rowed a second WR, you've always rowed a second WR.

Once you have rowed a third WR, you've always rowed a third WR.

Once you have rowed fourth...

And so it goes.

ranger

ranger · Post by **ranger** » November 26th, 2009, 6:58 am

bloomp wrote:As for this, everyone does deserve respect for wanting to improve. There is a different respect for someone that wins and someone that still works hard.

An excruciatingly naive view, Paul.

Time to grow up.

Independent of results, the world doesn't respect intentions much at all, especially if the intentions are measured against no standards but your own.

I suppose this is what we like to believe, because it is in our interest if we ourselves are lazy, incompetent, unable, apathetic, etc., but it just isn't true.

Doing away with standards doesn't grant eveyrone respect--gratis.

It humiliates the whole community.

The end of history and the last man.

ranger

snowleopard · Post by **snowleopard** » November 26th, 2009, 7:39 am

ranger wrote:Independent of results, the world doesn't respect intentions much at all, especially if the intentions are measured against no standards but your own.

And that is precisely why you, ranger, have no respect on this forum. No one gives a sh*t about what you did in 2003 except you. The medals are tarnished and the records have long since been beaten. All you do now is talk about your intentions.

ranger · Post by **ranger** » November 26th, 2009, 8:43 am

snowleopard wrote:
ranger wrote:Independent of results, the world doesn't respect intentions much at all, especially if the intentions are measured against no standards but your own.
And that is precisely why you, ranger, have no respect on this forum. No one gives a sh*t about what you did in 2003 except you. The medals are tarnished and the records have long since been beaten. All you do now is talk about your intentions.

Splish, splash!

Sweat everywhere.

100min bike, 25 mph.

After 30K on the erg.

In the winter of 2002-2003, I did 1.2 million meters in the Holiday Challenge, plus my normal two hours a day of cross-training.

About a FM of rowing a day, with a comparable amount of cross-training.

Great stuff.

I'll do something like that this year, too.

I am getting in the best shape of my life.

The work is getting effortless.

ranger

eliotsmith · Post by **eliotsmith** » November 26th, 2009, 8:50 am

just now you did 100 min bike and 30 K row?

ranger · Post by **ranger** » November 26th, 2009, 8:50 am

snowleopard wrote:No one gives a sh*t about what you did in 2003

Well, I should think there would be _some_ respect for my lwt 6:28 att 53, done when I didn't know how to row.

That is the equivalent of a lwt 6:23 at 50, which no one has ever done before.

No one else has ever pulled a lwt 6:28 at 53, either.

As for now, I am happy to stand on my 6:41 last year, which was the best in the lwt 55s by three seconds, especially given that I didn't even prepare for it with hard distance rowing and sharpening.

A nice AT 2K for a 58-year-old lightweight.

1:40 us AT for a 6:24 2K.

ranger

eliotsmith · Post by **eliotsmith** » November 26th, 2009, 9:02 am

12:33 AM Nov 25
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Lets consider some of rangers posting times, shall we? When does this man sleep with all that erging and biking and presumably eating, if he is up at all these times doing posting? Also note the time whenever he says he just did 1 hour bike after 30 K erg. In more than one example he posted less than 1.5 hours before he said he just completed those exercises. Or do you mean, "at some point in the past, I did this". If not, what the hell are you doing on the erg at 4 AM after you have obviously been up all night posting? For anyone with interest, you can click on ranger's name and then on the link to view all of his posts. Note the times.

To keep up the facade, perhaps you should post less, ranger.

hjs · Post by **hjs** » November 26th, 2009, 9:05 am

eliotsmith wrote:12:33 AM Nov 25
12:39 AM Nov 25
12:44 AM Nov 25
1:46 AM Nov 25
2:00 AM Nov 25
2:13 AM Nov 25
3:13 AM Nov 25
3:42 AM Nov 25
4:52 AM Nov 25
4:54 AM Nov 25
4:57 AM Nov 25
5:50 AM Nov 25
10:03 AM Nov 25
10:10 AM Nov 25
12:52 PM Nov 25
1:18 PM Nov 25
1:20 PM Nov 25
12:27 AM Nov 26
12:38 AM Nov 26
12:42 AM Nov 26
2:54 AM Nov 26
2:58 AM Nov 26
4:43 AM Nov 26
4:50 AM Nov 26

Lets consider some of rangers posting times, shall we? When does this man sleep with all that erging and biking and presumably eating, if he is up at all these times doing posting? Also note the time whenever he says he just did 1 hour bike after 30 K erg. In more than one example he posted less than 1.5 hours before he said he just completed those exercises. Or do you mean, "at some point in the past, I did this". If not, what the hell are you doing on the erg at 4 AM after you have obviously been up all night posting? For anyone with interest, you can click on ranger's name and then on the link to view all of his posts. Note the times.

To keep up the facade, perhaps you should post less, ranger.

this has always been the case.

A "30 k bike ride" in Rangers world is not really 30k
a "hour" erging is not really an hour

He once showed the real meters he had done on his pm and it was way less then he says.

He even calls a showflake a blizzard

eliotsmith · Post by **eliotsmith** » November 26th, 2009, 9:09 am

With all his splishing, splashing, and rivers of sweat, he could make a great workout by going straight from his erg to the river he just created for a leisurely OTW.

Rocket Roy · Post by **Rocket Roy** » November 26th, 2009, 11:28 am

ranger wrote:The 55s lwt gold at WIRC 2009 pulled 1:45.5 @ 32 spm, 9.4 SPI.

This is almost exactly the stroking power of Rocket Roy

ranger

Sorry.......who is the WR holder again?

Who is the World Champ?

And who didn't turn up to race