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Post by whp4 » November 17th, 2009, 5:48 pm

ranger wrote:If I pull 6:16 this year, I'll be pulling along with Ebbesen, Auer, and Ebert.
And if you pull 5:36, you'll be pulling along with Waddell. But you aren't going to be pulling 5:36, or 6:16, or even 6:38, so your comparison of what you dream about doing and what others have actually done is just more of your public self-adulation. Didn't your parents teach you enough manners to know to do your pulling in private?

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Post by ranger » November 17th, 2009, 6:48 pm

snowleopard wrote:joanVB doesn't even mention that she was an Olympic medallist.
I don't mention that I was an Olympic silver medalist either, but my erg times are exactly comparable to Joan's.

When I pull 6:16 at 60, my erg times will be _waaaaay_ better than Joan's.

A lwt male 6:16 at 60 is comparable to 7:07 for Joan at 60.

Last year, Joan pulled 7:43.

Joan is 56.

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Post by ranger » November 17th, 2009, 6:50 pm

whp4 wrote:you aren't...
Nay-saying is just the smallest of small talk.

No action whatsoever, and nothing to support the hot air.

Pathetic business.

All nay-sayers should be banned, if not from the forum, then at least from life.

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Post by ranger » November 17th, 2009, 6:51 pm

I will now pull an efficient 11-12 SPI when I race, with a max HR that is still 190 bpm.

My training has been close to maximal for a decade.

I am no longer a novice.

I now row well.

I am no longer doing just foundational training.

I am now training to race.

This winter, when I am fully trained, I will race like an elite 30s lwt.

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Post by ranger » November 17th, 2009, 7:15 pm

snowleopard wrote:Get over yourself ranger.
No reason to "get over" anything, if I pull 6:16.

It will just be an ambitious goal--achieved, hard earned.

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Post by snowleopard » November 18th, 2009, 5:46 am

ranger wrote:
snowleopard wrote:joanVB doesn't even mention that she was an Olympic medallist.
I don't mention that I was an Olympic silver medalist either, but my erg times are exactly comparable to Joan's.
The big difference being that you have never been near an Olympics.

Wake up ranger, you are a sporting nobody who publishes homoerotic pictures of himself on a rowing forum while fantasising about 30 yo lwt rowers. Your sporting distinctions are in minor league speed skating aged 9 and age group erging at 50+. The period in between is marked by a nothing but mediocrity.

All your WRs have been beaten by better men. Your remaining aspiration is the 60+ lwt WR for which you are training full time just so you can cringingly cling to sporting glory. A 6:16 2K is and will remain a fantasy.

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Post by ranger » November 18th, 2009, 6:54 am

Time to get out the heart rate monitor again.

It will interesting to see what my heart rides at, steady state, when I row 60min @ 1:48.

Back in 2003, when I rowed badly, the answer was 172 bpm.

High UT1

Now that I row well, I suspect the answer might be 152 bpm.

Low UT1

My fitness is just about the same, but my rowing is now much more effective and efficient.

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Post by ranger » November 18th, 2009, 6:58 am

snowleopard wrote:All your WRs have been beaten by better men
Yes, my WRs have been bested by younger men.

No matter.

I am now faster than I was, and faster than those who have been faster than I was, even though I am six years older.

At the end of the day, I won't care that some who were much younger rowed slower.

We all develop at our own pace and peak when we peak, no sooner.

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Post by bloomp » November 18th, 2009, 11:27 am

ranger wrote:
whp4 wrote:you aren't...
Nay-saying is just the smallest of small talk.

No action whatsoever, and nothing to support the hot air.

Pathetic business.

All nay-sayers should be banned, if not from the forum, then at least from life.

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Funny how you are so quick to judge someone with a negative attitude towards yourself, yet you seem to think it's ok to mock and degrade the efforts of others here. The difference, you boast and talk and act like you are something special while everyone else just wants to post training and learn more.
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Post by chgoss » November 18th, 2009, 11:37 am

bloomp wrote:
ranger wrote:
whp4 wrote:you aren't...
Nay-saying is just the smallest of small talk.

No action whatsoever, and nothing to support the hot air.

Pathetic business.

All nay-sayers should be banned, if not from the forum, then at least from life.

ranger
Funny how you are so quick to judge someone with a negative attitude towards yourself, yet you seem to think it's ok to mock and degrade the efforts of others here. The difference, you boast and talk and act like you are something special while everyone else just wants to post training and learn more.
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Post by DUThomas » November 18th, 2009, 11:46 am

Nay-saying is "fatal stuff"? Here's a handy list of people who might have been saved by well-timed nay-sayers: www.darwinawards.com/
David -- 45, 195, 6'1"

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Post by bellboy » November 18th, 2009, 11:57 am

Olympic medal? When did he win one of those? Have i missed something here? btw i always thought his pics were borderline uphill gardener and im glad to know im not alone on this one

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Post by chgoss » November 18th, 2009, 12:50 pm

bellboy wrote:Olympic medal? When did he win one of those? Have i missed something here? btw i always thought his pics were borderline uphill gardener and im glad to know im not alone on this one
Obviously, he never has, and I dont believe for a minute that he really thinks his erg results are equivalent to Joan's. He's just trying to get a rise out of people by equating himself with her. Troll..
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Post by bellboy » November 18th, 2009, 1:00 pm

So he`s just telling porkies then. Why would a near 60 yr old man tell lies that are easily able to be verified or not as the case may be? Can`t work him out at all. I find him fascinating in a weird/bored shitless at work kind of way! Mind you if he didn`t exist you would have to invent him!!

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Post by rjw » November 18th, 2009, 3:44 pm

ranger wrote: I don't mention that I was an Olympic silver medalist either.....
That is because you weren't but the use of the word "either" would lead us to believe that you were. What is the point of leading us on? What a piece of work!

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