6:28 2K

ranger · Post by **ranger** » November 12th, 2009, 4:49 am

hjs wrote:the 6.18 Mike Caveston HAS ROWED.

Yikes.

No comparison.

Mike did his 6:18 when he was a youngster.

Just 40.

He hasn't come close to that since.

6:18 at 40 is the equivalent of 6:38 at 60.

Last year, Mike rowed 6:35.

He is now 47.

ranger

hjs · Post by **hjs** » November 12th, 2009, 4:55 am

ranger wrote:
hjs wrote:the 6.18 Mike Caveston HAS ROWED.
Yikes.

No comparison.

Mike did his 6:18 when he was a youngster.

Indeed, draw you conclusion hahahahaha

6.18 and plus 6.40

So start naming some facts, aka rows you do

ranger · Post by **ranger** » November 12th, 2009, 5:26 am

BTW. as I have said many times, if you are rowing well, I think that the schedule of rates and paces for the upper reaches of the various training bands as reported in the old C2 training manual are right on.

In this old training manual, 1:47 @ 24 spm is UT1 for a 6:28 2K.

Yep.

11.9 SPI

ranger

ranger · Post by **ranger** » November 12th, 2009, 5:30 am

hjs wrote:So start naming some facts

"Facts"?

Haven't you been listening?

The erg is not a "fact"-machine.

It's a truth machine.

And the facts are not the truth.

The truth is rhythmic.

Name that tune.

Go with the flow.

If you can go with with flow, 1:47 @ 24 spm, for 30K, you can pull 1:34 for 2K.

So tune in!

And stay tuned.

ranger

hjs · Post by **hjs** » November 12th, 2009, 5:40 am

ranger wrote:
hjs wrote:So start naming some facts
"Facts"?

Haven't you been listening?

The erg is not a "fact"-machine.

It's a truth machine.

type in 2000 meters on your pm,

row untill you see 0,

read the time time,

that is time is a fact,

and that time is the truth

Rocket Roy · Post by **Rocket Roy** » November 12th, 2009, 7:12 am

Well I've been away for over a month now.

has The Ranger beaten my WR (unofficially) yet?

Do I need to go again yet?

mrfit · Post by **mrfit** » November 12th, 2009, 8:08 am

OK, I'm tuned in.

What did you row today?

JohnBove · Post by **JohnBove** » November 12th, 2009, 9:20 am

ranger wrote:Truth is unconscious, natural, and therefore not a cognitive ccnstruct/representation at all.

Western philosophers have never gotten anywhere near it.

Truth is rhythmic/temporal.

Western philosophy has been distracted by space.

This is more ignorant gibberish. Truth is unconscious? Jesus ...

hjs · Post by **hjs** » November 12th, 2009, 10:36 am

ranger wrote:
hjs wrote:
pjc wrote:He motivates himself with outlandish goals
No everything he says is pointed at 6.16, that is not to motivate himself but to put down the 6.18 Mike Caveston HAS ROWED.

last season he mised that by "only" 25 seconds what will it ne this year 27 ? Or would it be better to wait another year ?
Just distance rowing at the moment, Henry.

range

If you do you could show a session

but then again we would see how slow you do these rows so that's not gonna happen. Your hole cardshouse of lies would fall to pieces.

DUThomas · Post by **DUThomas** » November 12th, 2009, 11:10 am

chgoss · Post by **chgoss** » November 12th, 2009, 2:22 pm

Nosmo · Post by **Nosmo** » November 12th, 2009, 3:45 pm

Rocket Roy wrote:Well I've been away for over a month now.

has The Ranger beaten my WR (unofficially) yet?

Do I need to go again yet?

No
My Predictions:
He never will break the lwt 55 WR. (He might get a 60+ WR.)
And he never will pay Henry the money he owes him.
He will keep posting as long as people respond.
Enough people will respond to his drivel to keep him posting.

Rocket Roy · Post by **Rocket Roy** » November 12th, 2009, 4:48 pm

I hope to be fit enough by the time I'm 60 to attack that record. I'm 60 in 16 months and I'm starting the comeback now. I'm fit for racing the bike but not for erging at the moment.

bama · Post by **bama** » November 12th, 2009, 8:02 pm

did 4k. experimented with the time intervals racing the pace boat. had it set at 30 sec row 10 sec rest at 1:58 500/m pace. not too bad, tomorrow I am going to try it at 1 min row 15 sec rest at 1:55 pace and see how many intervals I get.

ranger · Post by **ranger** » November 13th, 2009, 5:33 am

Once you row well, clearly, the trick to distance rowing is just to learn to row steady state at a high rate, 28-30 spm.

At low rates and high stroking powers (i.e. in your foundational rowing), effectiveness is the issue.

In distance rowing, the issue is efficiency.

Play around with your stroke, making small little modifications here and there, until you can do it at a high rate with just a steady, contained effort for a substantial amout of time (e.g., 60min/HM).

In and around 11 SPI seems to be a groove for me when I do this.

1:43 @ 29 spm (10 MPS, 11 SPI)

Interestingly, no veteran rower, of whatever weight, can come anywhere near doing this.

No one who is rowing well pulls less than 11 SPI, even in distance rowing.

But the 50s hwt WR for 60min is 1:46/17K.

No 60s lwt has pulled better than 1:52/16K for 60min.

At 29 spm, 1:46 is 10 SPI.

At 29 spm, 1:52 is 8.5 SPI.

ranger