6:28 2K

[ranger]

skepticism is a sign of a healthy mind

Yes, truth is associated with the body.

The mind is associated with the opposite.

As the poets all point out, hellish business, "dis-ease."

The body is the opposite--heavenly--"easy,"

Go with the flow.

Rhythm is at the root of things.

Fiorm comes from rhythm.

Neither rhythm nor form is conscious, much less self-conscious; therefore, neither has much to do with the mind.

ranger

[hjs]

Skepticism is your disease, not mine.

If one ignores the fact that skepticism is a sign of a healthy mind, you're correct. You're no skeptic, least of all toward your own mental health.

Your diseases, if we can use the term somewhat loosely, would be pathological lying, clinical narcissism and, very possibly, Asberger's syndrome.

Have you considered the fact that you've sent some what: 20,000 posts? -- to forums on two continents at neither of which is there evidence of a single person who can bear you, except as an object of derision, irritation, sport, and dark, compulsive amusement?

You're a very sad case. Your goals are hopelessly unrealistic, which you certainly know, given your continuous attempts to rewrite, excuse, reframe, and lie about your yearly series of failures to meet them. People have from time to time and in all seriousness suggested you get help. You should heed them.

This thread is not about healthy observations John

[ranger]

Your goals are hopelessly unrealistic, which you certainly know, given your continuous attempts

Well, we'll now know very soon if my goals are unrealistic.

If I can do 60min at 1:44, it will predict my 2K target of 1:34.

Can I pull 60min at 1:44?

This seems entirely possible to me, but we'll just have to wait and see if I am right.

My pb for 60min, from back in 2003, is 1:48.

But I am quite a bit better than that now.

Given my ibetter tedhnique, 1:44 @ 28 spm now feels like what used to be 1:48 @ 28 spm.

Perfect.

Since 2004, I have made many attempts to do 60min at 1:44?

Nope.

Haven't tried it at all.

I will try it in a couple of months when I am done with distance rowing.

At that point, I will also do trials at the other distance events: 5K, 6K, 30min, 10K, HM, and FM.

I think that 60min is the crux, though.

Your 2K is only as good as your 60min row.

60min is done at 2K + 10.

Back in 2002-2003, most of the time, including my last rowi iat EIRC 2003, I pulled 6:32/1:38 for 2K, given that my 60min pb was 1:48.

ranger

P.S. I:48 @ 24 spm (11.6 SPI) is feeling great for _very_ long distance, such as a FM. This stroke is much longer and more measured than my FM stroke back in 2003. I now row well.

[hjs]

So in what way is Brian Bailey's performance of any importance to you?

Just responding to Henry.

Would 6:41 be good for a 59-year-old lwt?

Yep.

I would guess it would be the fastest that a 59-year-old lwt has ever gone.

ranger

Yes 6.41 is certainly good, but that's not the point, you are aiming at something completely different, that's the point.



ps What do you think Rob Waddel could do if he was "fully" trained, he can,t have done much cardio work, let alone row on his sailing trips. That 6.36 of his much be slow

No comment eh dangy hahahahaha

[ranger]

No comment

No need to comment.

Talk is more than a bit beside the point now.

My distance trials will tell the tale long before I sharpen and race in January and February.

Your 2K is only as good as your 60min row.

Everyone gets the same benefit from sharpening, and racing is just a reflection of your training.

ranger

[hjs]

No comment

No need to comment.


ranger

hahaha yes someone who is able to break the wr in les then 2 year is not in your alley


5.36 not bullshit about learning to row, just train himself fit en do it hahahahah

[ranger]

just train himself fit en do it

Indeed, as I have done.

Developing your stroking power is the most important thing you can do as a rower in order to get faster.

At 9.5 SPI, 36 spm is only 1:41, as Rocket Roy has discovered.

I used to pull 10.5 SPI back in 2003.

I now pull 11.7 SPI.

It has taken a lot of foundational training to get there.

Most 60s lwts pull about 9 SPI.

You get a second over 2K for each .1 SPI.

6:16 is 26 seconds under the 60s lwt 2K WR.

ranger

[hjs]

not bullshit about learning to row, just train himself fit en do it

Indeed, as I have done.


ranger

Did you ? hahahaha

5.36 Rob Waddel after a longgggggg break and a short buildup to top form again. Al you need is talent

[ranger]

All you need is talent

Convenient excuse for you--and others.

But stupid stuff.

Sure, you need talent.

But sports are (also) arts.

You also need some skill.

ranger

[ranger]

Did you?

Yep.

Even though, when I started this training, back in 2003, after I pulled a lwt 6:30 2K when I was 52, I was already 1.7 seconds under the WR in my age and weight division.

Goal now: 6:16

A lwt 6:16 at 60 is _26_ seconds under the the 2K WR for that age and weight.



Quite an advance in targets.

There's that seven seconds per 500m again!

ranger

[hjs]

Did you?

Yep.

Even though, when I started this training, back in 2003, I was already two seconds under the WR in my age and weight division.

Goal now: 6:16

A lwt 6:16 at 60 is _26_ seconds under the the 2K WR for that age and weight.

Quite an advance in targets.

There's that six seconds per 500m again!

ranger

work in progress


man I can,t wait to see you races again this season, I even think you have the gut's to show up at all. There's no change in hell you will ever come close to your 2003 results, never ever.


Ps waddel rowed a pb after his break, you only get slower and slower and slower

[ranger]

you only get slower and slower

My last race in 2003, fully trained and racing frequently at all distances, was 6:32 at EIRC 2003.

In 2006, I pulled 6:29.7, just on the basis of foundational training, with no hard distance rowing or sharpening, and still struggling with my technique.

My technique is now fixed.

I am now doing hard distance rowing.

When I am done with distance rowing, I will do full sharpening.

ranger

[hjs]

you only get slower and slower

My last race in 2003, fully trained and racing frequently at all distances, was 6:32 at EIRC 2003.

In 2006, I pulled 6:29.7, just on the basis of foundational training.

ranger

You mean that race that almost killed you, pitty there is always some audience eh hahaha

And you also forget that I was around in 2006, so I do know how you "did not sharpen"

Just like you did not sharpen last year and begged me on your knees to have pitty. Man that was embarresing


And how did that "progress" came along in 2007 2008 2009 and this year hahahahahaha


Fool hahahahahahahaha

[ranger]

waddel

Not a properr comparison.

I am not a 30-year-old, with a couple decades of rowing experience, who has won Olympic gold in a 1x.

I am a 58-year-old novice who didn't start rowing on an erg until he was 50, who didn't step in a boat until he was 53, and who has never raced OTW at all.

I have never been on a rowing team.

I have never even been a member of a rowing club.

I have never had any coaching, OTW or on the erg.

I am an English professor.

ranger

[ranger]

work in progress

Of course.

Until you are fully trained, all of your effort is a "work in progress."

When I am done with distance rowing and sharpening, I will (again) be fully trained, as I was back in 2002-2003, but now with a new (foundational) base.

The easiest and most effective way to get better is to improve your (foundational) base.

ranger