Rowing for Kayaking?

[Ultra]

I'm new to rowing, but it seems that with a bit of a dip on both sides it would be possible to imitate and train for double-bladed kayaking. Your thoughts on this?

[Bob S.]

I'm new to rowing, but it seems that with a bit of a dip on both sides it would be possible to imitate and train for double-bladed kayaking. Your thoughts on this?

I used to do that about 75 years ago, just fooling around in a heavy skiff. But that had a fixed seat. It is an entirely different game with a sliding seat. Also, the leverage is all wrong. With a paddle, one hand is pushing on the drive while the other is pulling. In rowing, both hands just pull on the drive, while the legs do the pushing - even with a fixed seat. Another item is that the body swing is quite different.

However, it is possible to use the C2 indoor rower to do paddle training. There is a kit available to convert the rower to a kayak paddle action. The sliding seat is not used for this of course. There may also be one for canoe paddle action, but I have seen only the kayak simulator.

Bob S.

[rsieminski]

I kayak a lot, and no doubt about it, the C2 will help you to endure longer paddles. I'd like to see that kayak paddle kit link, if anyone has it.

[rsieminski]

Canoe paddle attachment??
http://www.concept2.com.au/products/acc ... apter.aspx
over $700... YIKES

[Bob S.]

This one was posted on the UK C2 forum just today by one of the US C2 forum regulars. It isn't a C2 product, but it looks similar to an adapted C2 indoor rower that I saw a long time ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmidd9mv ... re=related

Bob S.

[slackercruster]

I use an UBC for kayak training.

[ex99125b]

I was taught to paddle by pushing, rather than pulling. Using your entire body, like a boxer. The power in a kayak paddler comes from the hips. In fact, the "pulling" hand really does little more than act as an oarlock. Always had good long distance luck with that technique.

[speedy]

There is an un-written rule about training. It's better to train the activity that is your goal than to use other methods to get better at the goal listed. So for to get better at running you run, to get better at cycling you cycle, to get better at kayak you kayak.

Now I just recently took up kayaking before I got my Model E and I love it. I have no direct desire to use the Model E to carry over to the kayak for to get better at kayak I need to kayak just that simple: I also recently done SUP and that is clearly something you need to do the activity to get better at. But the Model or or any model of Concept you use will develop your body as a whole and that has carry over to anything active. How much depends on the goal itself.

Then there is the methodology where the goal is seasonal. So lets say I put more focus on SUP than kayaking. Well obvious thing that needs development is balance so I include balancing exercises to develop or/and maintain what I have already acheived or want to achieve when I can't get in the water for obvious reasons: too damn cold. So things like a bonsu ball (however you spell it) would be a good choice.

Kayaking is core and upper body. So do exercises that develop that and you will get development from rowing but you will get more if you do more strength exercises that work the core and upper body and that will have some carry over to kayaking.