6:28 2K

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Post by snowleopard » November 7th, 2009, 6:34 pm

ranger wrote:It will be interesting to see what I can do next year at WIRC 2011, when I turn 60.
Yes it will. You have already stated that WRs are beneath you and the only think that vindicates your training methods (and volume) is a 6:16 2K.

It's good to know we won't get too much crowing from you if you set a new WR in the lwt 60+ class. Even if you set the mark at < 6:40 you will still be 24 seconds away from your goal.

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Post by ranger » November 8th, 2009, 7:32 am

snowleopard wrote:
ranger wrote:It will be interesting to see what I can do next year at WIRC 2011, when I turn 60.
Yes it will. You have already stated that WRs are beneath you and the only think that vindicates your training methods (and volume) is a 6:16 2K.

It's good to know we won't get too much crowing from you if you set a new WR in the lwt 60+ class. Even if you set the mark at < 6:40 you will still be 24 seconds away from your goal.
Not much interested in what I will do when I am 60 at the moment.

As I have mentioned, in a month or so, after I am done with distance rowing, I think I will pull 6:28.

Then I will be ready for some hard sharpening in January and February.

I haven't done distance rowing or sharpening since 2003.

I have just been doing foundational rowing, working on technique.

I get about a dozen seconds each over 2K from distance rowing and hard sharpening.

When I am done with sharpening this winter, I will be fully trained and ready to race for WIRC 2010 at the end of February.

Next year, I will go to BIRC and put the 55s lwt BIRC championship record were it should be.

All of this before I am 60.

I will be in my 50s for quite a while still.

Another 15 months.

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Post by Yankeerunner » November 9th, 2009, 6:23 am

ranger wrote:
snowleopard wrote:
ranger wrote:It will be interesting to see what I can do next year at WIRC 2011, when I turn 60.
Yes it will. You have already stated that WRs are beneath you and the only think that vindicates your training methods (and volume) is a 6:16 2K.

It's good to know we won't get too much crowing from you if you set a new WR in the lwt 60+ class. Even if you set the mark at < 6:40 you will still be 24 seconds away from your goal.
Not much interested in what I will do when I am 60 at the moment.

As I have mentioned, in a month or so, after I am done with distance rowing, I think I will pull 6:28.
Then I will be ready for some hard sharpening in January and February.

I haven't done distance rowing or sharpening since 2003.

I have just been doing foundational rowing, working on technique.

I get about a dozen seconds each over 2K from distance rowing and hard sharpening.

When I am done with sharpening this winter, I will be fully trained and ready to race for WIRC 2010 at the end of February.

Next year, I will go to BIRC and put the 55s lwt BIRC championship record were it should be.

All of this before I am 60.

I will be in my 50s for quite a while still.

Another 15 months.

ranger
No, actually the first post of this thread stated that you would do 6:28 for 2K by the end of September.

Not that slipping behind schedule is anything new for you, as you have been predicting 6:24 to 6:16 "by Boston 2004....then BIRC 2004.....then Boston 2005....then BIRC 2005.....then Boston 2006..................." Your consistency in these matters, if not admired, is at least duly noted.

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Post by hjs » November 9th, 2009, 6:25 am

Yankeerunner wrote: I







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No, actually the first post of this thread stated that you would do 6:28 for 2K by the end of September.

Not that slipping behind schedule is anything new for you, as you have been predicting 6:24 to 6:16 "by Boston 2004....then BIRC 2004.....then Boston 2005....then BIRC 2005.....then Boston 2006..................." Your consistency in these matters, if not admired, is at least duly noted.[/quote]

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:28 pm Post subject: 6:28 2K

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If I continue this training, I think I'll pull an at-home, 6:28 2K by the end of the month.

1:37 @ 34 spm (11.3 SPI).

Nice!

So, time to get to weight.

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Post by ranger » November 9th, 2009, 7:31 am

yankeerunner wrote:No, actually the first post of this thread stated that you would do 6:28 for 2K by the end of September.
Yea, as I mentioned, near the end of the summer, I was planning to go to BIRC, so I was getting ready to gear up for some faster rowing.

Subsequently, I decided that I don't have the money for overseas travel this year.

So, I am putting off sharpening until January and February, when I will be preparing for WIRC.

This is more ideal, anyway.

It gives me more time to complete my distance rowing, which I will be doing for the next couple of months.

I did get to weight in the middle of September, though, and have remained there.

This puts me _way_ ahead of last year, when I had to lose 20 lbs. from November to January in order to make weight.

No problem this year.

My cross-training routines are all in place and functioning nicely.

I am also ahead of last year in my training.

I am no longer doing foundational training at all.

I have moved on to distance rowing and distance trials.

Last year I was just doing foundational training.

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Post by KevJGK » November 9th, 2009, 7:48 am

ranger wrote: I have moved on to distance rowing and distance trials.
What distance trials have you done so far then?

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Post by JohnBove » November 9th, 2009, 9:04 am

November 7
ranger wrote:It will be interesting to see what I can do next year at WIRC 2011, when I turn 60.
November 8
ranger wrote:Not much interested in what I will do when I am 60 at the moment.
Idiot.

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Post by ranger » November 9th, 2009, 10:42 am

JohnBove wrote:November 7
ranger wrote:It will be interesting to see what I can do next year at WIRC 2011, when I turn 60.
November 8
ranger wrote:Not much interested in what I will do when I am 60 at the moment.
Idiot.
There is no contradiction here at all.

If I row 6:16 this year, it will certainly make next year interesting!

I am focussed on this year at the moment, though.

Next year will come along soon enough.

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Post by ranger » November 9th, 2009, 10:42 am

KevJGK wrote:
ranger wrote: I have moved on to distance rowing and distance trials.
What distance trials have you done so far then?
No trials so far.

Just a lot of distance rowing.

This distance rowing (at 28-30 spm) naturally turns into trials, as it proceeds, though.

The extensive cross-training that I am doing is excellent support for this distance work.

It helps endurance, while aiding recovery.

It also helps psychologically--by getting you used to long bouts of continuous work.

I am no longer doing foundational rowing at low rates.

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Post by whp4 » November 9th, 2009, 12:43 pm

ranger wrote:
hjs wrote:in 2003 you where quite a bit faster
The 6:29.7 I pulled in my 2006 race in Baltimore was pretty surprising, given that I didn't even train for it (with distance rowing and hard sharpening).

I was just doing foundational rowing.

To this point, at least, no other 55s erger my size has come within a light year of pulling sub-6:30.

The 55s _heavyweight_ race at WIRC 2006 was won in 6:34.
Wow, your breathing down their neck in that race must have spurred that blistering finish -- that's like 30 seconds faster than you rowed the same distance! You weren't within a light year either :lol:

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Post by whp4 » November 9th, 2009, 12:46 pm

ranger wrote:
JohnBove wrote:November 7
ranger wrote:It will be interesting to see what I can do next year at WIRC 2011, when I turn 60.
November 8
ranger wrote:Not much interested in what I will do when I am 60 at the moment.
Idiot.
There is no contradiction here at all.
Indeed, what you do when you are 60 won't be interesting either.
Next year will come along soon enough.
And when it does, we'll be able to look back and see that you missed all of your targets yet again. "Held over for the 5th straight year!"

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Post by ranger » November 9th, 2009, 2:03 pm

whp4 wrote:And when it does, we'll be able to look back and see that you missed all of your targets yet again.
To this point, I haven't been training to race.

But I now am.

If I do full distance rowing and sharpening this winter and still miss my 2K target at WIRC (and/or in the WIRC qualifiers), so be it.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

I will have tried my best.

I now have both the technique and the fitness I need, at the proper weight.

So, conditions are go.

We'll soon have an outcome.

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Post by bloomp » November 9th, 2009, 2:12 pm

ranger wrote:
whp4 wrote:And when it does, we'll be able to look back and see that you missed all of your targets yet again.
To this point, I haven't been training to race.

But I now am.

If I do full distance rowing and sharpening this winter and still miss my 2K target at WIRC (and/or in the WIRC qualifiers), so be it.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

I will have tried my best.

I now have both the technique and the fitness I need, at the proper weight.

So, conditions are go.

We'll soon have an outcome.

ranger
You were only 1.7 seconds from hitting your magical pre-sharpened 6:28 back in 2006. So these last three years have been a struggle to get your 2k time down by less than half a second on your 500m split? Sounds like your training isn't working.

Unless you've slowed down and haven't actually done what you've claimed to do. Why did you not sharpen after your 6:29.7 (since you were ONLY doing foundational rowing from 2003 until just recently) and get your 6:16? Seems foolish to me. Or just that you're full of shit.

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Post by whp4 » November 9th, 2009, 8:47 pm

bloomp wrote:Seems foolish to me. Or just that you're full of shit.
Or?!? Why can't he be foolish and full of shit? :lol:

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Post by JohnBove » November 9th, 2009, 9:23 pm

ranger wrote:Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

I will have tried my best.

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This after five six years of your narcissistic braying and lying? "I just tried my best ..." How touching. After all, what else could anyone ask?

What a flaming asshole you are.

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