6:28 2K

[ranger]

The only thing they can do in order to be better than you in a 2K race is to compete against themselves in training in a more effective way than you can by training themselves to do something better for a FM @ 26 spm than you can.

What were the FM times of the three people that pushed you off the podium at Euro' 2006?

In 2006, I was retraining my technique with foundational training; I was not training to race.

That project is now complete, and I am again training to race.

The people who won EIRC 2006 rowed just the same as they rowed in 2003.

In 2003, when I was training to race, I beat those people who won at EIRC 2006 by a dozen seconds.

I am much better than that now.

I will now beat them by twice that.

Good luck to them, though.

Perhaps they can find some quick way to get better by sharpening harder.



ranger

[snowleopard]

The only thing they can do in order to be better than you in a 2K race is to compete against themselves in training in a more effective way than you can by training themselves to do something better for a FM @ 26 spm than you can.

What were the FM times of the three people that pushed you off the podium at Euro' 2006?

In 2006, I was retraining my technique with foundational training; I was not training to race.

That project is now complete, and I am again training to race.

The people who won EIRC 2006 rowed just the same as they rowed in 2003.

In 2003, when I was training to race, I beat those people who won at EIRC 2006 by a dozen seconds.

I am much better than that now.

I will now beat them by twice that.

Good luck to them, though.

Perhaps they can find some quick way to get better by sharpening harder.



ranger

OK, so you've no idea. That's fine.

When did you last row a FM?

[ranger]

The only thing they can do in order to be better than you in a 2K race is to compete against themselves in training in a more effective way than you can by training themselves to do something better for a FM @ 26 spm than you can.

What were the FM times of the three people that pushed you off the podium at Euro' 2006?

Rocket Roy does 1:56 for a FM @ 26 spm.

At 2K + 14, that predicts 1:42 for 2K, just about what he pulled at EIRC 2006.

If Roy can train himself to do 1:48 for a FM @ 26 spm, rather than 1:56, he'll pull 1:34 for 2K, rather than 1:42.

ranger

[hjs]

What has weight to do with age and body fat % You started erging because you where a fat cough patato, that not me

Erging is a competitive sport.
Competitions in the sport have weight classes, age classes, gender classes, etc.
ranger[/quote]

Top sport is about talent, training and doing it at the right moment in your, at your peak.
Sports in general is about have fun doing it.

I don, t care much for weight, height or what ever, I do care about absolute performances.
To erg well you have to be tall, strong and fit.
to run a marathon well you have to small and light
To shotput well you have to big and strong.
etc

If you don,t have that talent given you simply fall short, and although I did not have much talent it;s is still much more the you, remember my slowest 2k is still faster then your pb.

So a cripple man, I can, t even walk proper, who twice had a broken back, after having had a paralised leg is still fastre then you. That's put's your "talent" in perspective hahahahaha

[Steve G]

The only thing they can do in order to be better than you in a 2K race is to compete against themselves in training in a more effective way than you can by training themselves to do something better for a FM @ 26 spm than you can.

What were the FM times of the three people that pushed you off the podium at Euro' 2006?

Rocket Roy does 1:56 for a FM @ 26 spm.



At 2K + 14, that predicts 1:42 for 2K, just about what he pulled at EIR200606.

If Roy can train himself to do 1:48 for a FM @ 26 spm, theher than 1:56, he'll pull 1:34 for 2K, rather than 1:42.

ranger

Rick
Quoting FM times for a 2K predictor is just plain silly, most folk who do one do it just to complete not as a predictor. I am sure Rocket didnt even consisider this as a predictor.
BTW any OTW races on the horizon, or is it too cold, winndy, wet etc, delete as applicable

Steve

[ranger]

If you row well, training yourself to do a FM, 1:48 @ 26 spm is pretty simple.

In each session, just put it on 1:48 @ 26 spm and row.

Put in as many meters as you can.

Row further than further each day without stopping.

Keep doing these sessions until you can row continuously, 1:48 @ 26 spm, for 2.5 hours.

This is Level 3 rowing in the Wolverine Plan.

This rowing is pretty hard to do if you don't row well, though.

So you might want to do a lot of foundational rowing before you take it on.

1:48 @ 26 spm is 10.7 SPI.

For a FM, you want to use a light stroke.

If you are a lightweight and row well, and therefore pull 13 SPI with a natural motion, there is no problem.

10.7 is indeed a very light stroke for you.

But only if you pull something like 13 SPI with a natural motion.

Only if you row well.

Rocket Roy rows both 2Ks and FMs at 9.5 SPI.

Hmm.

That won't cut it.

ranger

[ranger]

I don, t care much for weight

Then you don't care much about the sport of erging.

The sport has weight classes (and age classes and gender classes)--for good reason.

ranger

[ranger]

To erg well you have to be tall

No you don't, if you are lightweight.

ranger

[mrfit]

RANGER:

In each session, just put it on 1:48 @ 26 spm and row.

Put in as many meters as you can.

Is this how you are training?

[ranger]

RANGER:

In each session, just put it on 1:48 @ 26 spm and row.

Put in as many meters as you can.

Is this how you are training?

Yep, pretty much.

This is what Mike C. advises for Level 3 rowing in the Wolverine Plan.

When he is training hard, he starts at 12K in September and works up to 30K in February, over a six month period.

He does other kinds of training, too, while he is doing this distance rowing, rotating the training bands.

I am not doing that.

I am working through the training bands sequentially.

So, at this point, I am doing distance (Level 3) rowing every day.

When I am done with distance rowing, I'll move on to sharpening.

ranger

[ranger]

When did you last row a FM?

The last time I did distance rowing.

The natural culmination of distance rowing is a set of trials at all the distances over 2K--5K, 6K, 30min, 10K, 60min, HM, and FM.

That's what I did the last time I did distance rowing.

For the best lightweights, these times generally work out at "double to d, add 3."

So, if you do a FM at 1:48, you do a HM at 1:45, 10K at 1:42, and 5K at 1:39.

It is good to be back to distance rowing again after a long digression.

I am somewhat of a distance specialist.

I was a marathon runner for a quarter of a century.

ranger

[ranger]

Quoting FM times for a 2K predictor is just plain silly

No, it's not.

If your rowing is balanced and you race it, the FM is an exact 2K predictor, as good as any other.

2K + 14.

If they raced it, I suspect that Eskild E. and Henrik S. could do 1:44 pace for a FM.

ranger

[ranger]

If Rocket Roy can't improve his FM, he can't improve his 2K.

Why?

Because if he can't improve his FM, he can't improve his HM.

And if he can't improve his HM, he can't improve his 10K.

And if he can't improve his 10K, he can't improve his 5K.

And if he can't improve his 5K, he can't improve his 2K.

ranger

[ranger]

When Mikc C. pulled 6:18 at WIRC 2002 and set the 40s lwt WR, he did 1:48 for 30K in his level 3 rowing and said he could have pushed that on to 42K, if he had continued training after WIRC.

ranger

[hjs]

Quoting FM times for a 2K predictor is just plain silly

No, it's not.

If your rowing is balanced and you race it, the FM is an exact 2K predictor, as good as any other.

2K + 14.

If they raced it, I suspect that Eskild E. and Henrik S. could do 1:44 pace for a FM.

ranger

eh dangy, that is not my quote hahahahaha, take a break your feeble brain needs a rest