6:28 2K

[ranger]

No one ever improved their 2K by sharpening.

Except for you who gains 12 seconds by sharpening!

Sure.

But everyone gets this, not just me.

Sharpening always gives you the same result, no more, no less.

So, if all you do is sharpen and race, you stay the same.

There is no way to improve.

The only way to improve is to get better at your foundational and distance rowing.

If your training is balanced, you can read your 2K right off your 60'r20 and/or 60'r28 rows.

ranger

[ranger]

So you saying I will never race again. Coward

No, not at all.

As you know, I have been racing every year, much more than my immediate competition.

I had the best 2K in my age and weight category last year by three seconds.

Racing has nothing to do with bravery or cowardice.

In rowing, racing is redundant.

The quality of your racing just follows from the quality of your foundational and distance training.

Bravery in sports like rowing comes in the preparation, the training, not in the racing.

I am going to spend as much time as possible struggling (bravely?) with what can make me better, hopefully the best I can be, rather than eliding this struggle and jumping to what cannot.

IMHO, the real cowards are those who do the opposite.

ranger

[whp4]

The quality of your racing just follows from the quality of your foundational and distance training.

Like that 7:04.3 in Boston...quality stuff, I know a number of people who enjoy watching that replay, counting the number of times you blew

[hjs]

So you saying I will never race again. Coward

No, not at all.

As you know, I have been racing every year, much more than my immediate competition.


ranger

Yes you do race the little venues but don,t dare to to face your competion the last couple of years.
But the question is, you are not allowed to race when you are not ready, your words, And every season you are far from ready. You start around 7 minutes, that is very very far away from the 6.28 you need.

And although you indeed race, the times you handle down, dnf or couldn,t weigh in are at least the same number.

From memorie.

Your feet were frozen.
Your started bozing the night before with your son.
3 snowflakes in your way.
couldn,t weigh in

ect ect

[ranger]

Yes you do race the little venues but don,t dare to to face your competion the last couple of years.

Not at all.

This last year, I qualified for WIRC--three times over.

I had a free round-trip plane ticket to Boston from C2.

I was on my way to Boston from Louisville, via Chicago, but my plane was delayed for two hours out of Louisville because of snow, and I missed my connection to Boston out of Chicago.

Nothing to be done about that.

I had no way to fly to Boston from Chicago on Saturday night to get to my race on Sunday morning.

I keep trying to flap my arms, but I don't get off the ground.

I presented a paper at an academic meeting at noon on Saturday in Louisville, so I couldn't get to Boston earlier.

Hey.

Erging is pretty straight-forward.

It is a race against the clock.

Conditions in an erging race are pretty constant.

If my competition can go faster than I can on the erg, then why don't they?

I haven't even been training to race, or heck, even doing distance rowing.

That means that my 2Ks have been as much as 25 seconds off of what they might be, fully trained.

By and large, my competition does nothing else but train to race.

But my 2K last year was still three seconds better than my competition.

Go figure.

The whole affair has nothing to do with race venues, etc.

It has to do with where you are in your training and how fast you are on the erg.

ranger

[hjs]

Yes you do race the little venues but don,t dare to to face your competion the last couple of years.

Not at all.

This last year, I qualified for WIRC--three times over.

That is not a big deal, we know you can row 6.50, that is not the question. You are talking about a 6.28 before you starts sharpening.........

[ranger]

Henry--

Give it up, dude.

It's pathetic.

I understand your dilemma, but really...

Is this it?

Because you can't compete yourself as you would like to, you are taking a "fan" perspective.

Races are fun to watch.

You get to eat popcorn in the grandstands, dream big dreams, talk big talk, and get entertained, while others compete.

Therefore, when big confrontations in races don't materialize, you feel cheated.

You don't have anything else.

Give itt up, dude.

Some of us are still competing.

In fact, some of us are getting ready to row at our full potential.

I am getting ready to break my 2K pb by a dozen seconds.

I have prepared patiently and diligently for seven years to get to this position.

Put the popcorn away.

Wipe the mustard off your tie.

Drop the pathetic spectator attitude.

Wish me luck!

ranger

[hjs]

Henry--

Give it up, dude.

It's pathetic.


Put the popcorn away.

Wipe the mustard off your tie.

Indeed give it up. By that I mean talking about sub 6.40 times. Just do what you can, you will be competative.


Ps I don,t eat that stuff, I am never overweight, never have fat to loose

[ranger]

Yes you do race the little venues but don,t dare to to face your competion the last couple of years.

Not at all.

This last year, I qualified for WIRC--three times over.

That is not a big deal, we know you can row 6.50, that is not the question. You are talking about a 6.28 before you starts sharpening.........

No, been there, done that.

When I am fully trained, I will pull a lwt 6:16 for 2K, not 6:28.

I pulled 6:41 last year at AT.

And even so, without even doing distance rowing, which develops your threshold, AT rowing, much less sharpening, which gets you another dozen seconds over 2K by developing your anaerobic capacities.

ranger

[ranger]

Ps I don,t eat that stuff, I am never overweight, never have fat to loose

Really?

What's your best lightweight 2K time?

At what age?

ranger

[ranger]

Yes you do race the little venues but don,t dare to to face your competion

In erging, your biggest competition is yourself in training, and the most important moment in training is a FM trial @ 26 spm.

A FM trial @ 26 spm represents the quality of both your foundational and distance rowing.

You can read your 2K right off of it.

The rest of your training is predictable and therefore irrelevant.

Sure, you have to do it.

But it doesn't mean much.

A FM @ 26 spm is done at 2K + 14.

Who shows up to race 2K against you at a race venue is irrelevant to the outcome of the race.

If they are faster than you, you can't do anything about it.

If they are slower than you, they can't do anything about it.

The only thing they can do in order to be better than you in a 2K race is to compete against themselves in training in a more effective way than you can by training themselves to do something better for a FM @ 26 spm than you can.

To pull 1:34 for 2K, I need to pull 1:48 for a FM @ 26 spm.

That's the whole ballgame.

Looking good so far.

In my distance rowing, I am pulling right at that FM target.

The best FM @ 26 spm by my major competition at the moment is 1:56, eight seconds per 500m slower.

ranger

[snowleopard]

The only thing they can do in order to be better than you in a 2K race is to compete against themselves in training in a more effective way than you can by training themselves to do something better for a FM @ 26 spm than you can.

What were the FM times of the three people that pushed you off the podium at Euro' 2006?

[ranger]

These were the best 5Ks last year in the 55s lwts:

RANKING RESULTS 2009
Indoor Rower | Individual and Race Results | 5000m | Men's | Lightweight | Custom Age Range (55–59) | 2009 Season

Michael van Beuren 56 Hartland VT USA 17:54.8 IND_V
John Busk 55 Slangerup DEN 18:05.1 IND
Rolf Meek 58 Oslo NOR 18:13.9 IND
Ed Pabst 59 Terre Haute IN USA 18:32.9 IND
James Taylor 56 DeLand FL USA 18:43.6 C2Log
Mark Underwood 57 Bremerton WA USA 19:03.8 IND
Paul Ferguson 55 Melbourne VIC AUS 19:08.7 IND
John Malarkey 59 Cobham Surrey GBR 19:13.9 IND
Otto Kausch 58 Brecksville OH USA 19:17.8 IND
Stephen Sepe 58 Katonah NY USA 19:23.8 IND
Gene Kelley 56 Tucson AZ USA 19:27.7 IND


The best is 1:47.5 pace.

5K is done at 2K + 5, nine seconds per 500m faster than a FM.

And, sure enough, Mike VB pulled 1:42.5/6:50 for 2K at WIRC 2009.

ranger

[hjs]

Ps I don,t eat that stuff, I am never overweight, never have fat to loose

Really?

What's your best lightweight 2K time?

At what age?

ranger

What has weight to do with age and body fat % You started erging because you where a fat cough patato, that not me

[ranger]

Ps I don,t eat that stuff, I am never overweight, never have fat to loose

Really?

What's your best lightweight 2K time?

At what age?

ranger

What has weight to do with age and body fat % You started erging because you where a fat cough patato, that not me

Erging is a competitive sport.

Competitions in the sport have weight classes, age classes, gender classes, etc.

Or didn't you notice?

So, what is your best lwt time for 2K?

If your times have all been hwt times, and your best was 6:14 as a 30s hwt, that's 10 seconds per 500m off the best in your age, weight, and gender division.

You consider that good?

The best in that age, weight, and gender division pull 1:24 pace for 2K, not 1:34.

That's a difference of 25 boat lengths!

A schmeeeeeer.

ranger