Things we should never argue with ranger about

[ranger]

Seriously dude

Seriously?

The event is 1Kr24,

Dang, BB can only do 1:34.7 for 1K, even though he can do 1:29.5 for 2K?

1K at 2K + 5?

That's freaky.

Dude.

I bet it just makes your pea-brain pop!

@!@#!$!$@%@%^#^&*$




# Name Cat Team Result Pace Power
1 Simon Handley M MAD I 2:57.2 1:28.6 503.2
2 Danny Graham M Team Oarsome I 3:00.0 1:30.0 480.1
3 Zach Ellison M Free Spirits I 3:02.2 1:31.1 462.9
4 Dave "Flaunt" Bell M UHRC I 3:04.9 1:32.5 442.9
5 Todd Carpenter M Forum Flyers I 3:06.0 1:33.0 435.1
6 John O'Grady M MAD I 3:07.6 1:33.8 424.1
7 Jon Bone M Team Oarsome I 3:07.7 1:33.9 423.4
8 Andy C Jones M Taff Attack Racing I 3:07.9 1:34.0 422.1
9 Nik Fleming M MAD I 3:09.4 1:34.7 412.1
10 Irish Dave M Paddy Power I 3:09.7 1:34.9 410.2
11 Rob Smith M MAD II 3:09.9 1:35.0 408.9
12 hjs M Forum Flyers I 3:10.0 1:35.0 408.2
13 Rich Blagrove M MAD II 3:10.1 1:35.1 407.6
14 KevP M MAD II 3:10.4 1:35.2 405.7
15 johnglynn M Free Spirits I 3:10.6 1:35.3 404.4
16 Michael Anderson M Sub 7 I 3:10.9 1:35.5 402.5
17 Dom M Independent I 3:11.2 1:35.6 400.6
18 Sango M MAD III 3:11.2 1:35.6 400.6
19 Michael R M Independent I 3:11.3 1:35.7 400.0
20 Guillaume Dauphin M Paddy Power I 3:11.5 1:35.8 398.7
21 jainser M Free Spirits I 3:11.5 1:35.8 398.7
22 Andrew Mudge M Sub 7 I 3:11.6 1:35.8 398.1
23 Mark Mitchell m MAD I 3:11.6 1:35.8 398.1
24 Pete Marston M MAD III 3:12.0 1:36.0 395.6
25 Matthew Balch M Team Oarsome I 3:12.0 1:36.0 395.6
26 Graham Benton M MAD III 3:12.2 1:36.1 394.4
27 Richard Wilder m Taff Attack Racing I 3:12.3 1:36.2 393.7
28 Paddy M Paddy Power I 3:12.7 1:36.4 391.3
29 Phil Tilley M Taff Attack Racing I 3:13.3 1:36.7 387.7
30 Graham Todd M Team Oarsome II 3:13.8 1:36.9 384.7
31 Tim Weyman M Sub 7 I 3:14.2 1:37.1 382.3
32 Robert Baldwin M Free Spirits II 3:14.3 1:37.2 381.7
33 Guy Robinson M Sub 7 II 3:14.5 1:37.3 380.5
34 Jon Goodall M MAD IV 3:14.6 1:37.3 380.0
35 Ben Martin M The Tsotsies I 3:14.7 1:37.4 379.4
36 Rick Anderson1 M Team Oarsome II 3:15.0 1:37.5 377.6
37 Richard Clinch m The Banana Boat I 3:15.0 1:37.5 377.6
38 Simon D. m Team Oarsome I 3:15.2 1:37.6 376.5
39 Troy Tinnes M The Eh! Team I 3:15.3 1:37.7 375.9
40 Dave Houchin M The Banana Boat I 3:15.3 1:37.7 375.9
41 Chris Hayes M Independent I 3:15.6 1:37.8 374.2
42 Canoeist M Forum Flyers I 3:15.8 1:37.9 373.0
43 _Andreas van Tonder M Lowveld IRC I 3:16.2 1:38.1 370.7
44 Andy Burrows M Team Oarsome II 3:16.3 1:38.2 370.2
45 James Auchinleck m Sub 7 I 3:17.0 1:38.5 366.2
46 Paul Lancaster M Team Oarsome III 3:17.0 1:38.5 366.2
47 Nick Shuker M Free Spirits II 3:17.2 1:38.6 365.1
48 David Chmilowskyj M The Eh! Team I 3:17.3 1:38.7 364.6
49 Little Chris m The Banana Boat I 3:17.6 1:38.8 362.9
50 Matt Jellet M UHRC I 3:17.8 1:38.9 361.8
51 Mikkel Elles�e Hansen M Free Spirits II 3:17.9 1:39.0 361.3
52 gunslinger_ M Free Spirits III 3:18.0 1:39.0 360.7
53 maretta M Independent II 3:18.1 1:39.1 360.2
54 Matt Mitchell m MAD II 3:18.2 1:39.1 359.6
55 Ian Dowgill m Independent I 3:18.2 1:39.1 359.6
56 Warren Matthews M Sub 7 II 3:18.2 1:39.1 359.6
57 Dave Kerrison m RAF Rowers I 3:18.3 1:39.2 359.1
58 Chris Mizen m MAD III 3:18.5 1:39.3 358.0
59 Gregory Cook m Independent II 3:18.6 1:39.3 357.5
60 Paul Cole M Sub 7 II 3:18.7 1:39.4 356.9
61 Jonathan Turns M Sub 7 III 3:18.8 1:39.4 356.4
62 Dan Staite m Team Oarsome II 3:18.8 1:39.4 356.4
63 Thomas W-P M Free Spirits III 3:18.8 1:39.4 356.4
64 Matt Schultz M The Banana Boat I 3:18.8 1:39.4 356.4
65 Adrian Nicholas M Team Oarsome III 3:19.3 1:39.7 353.7
66 polaco M Sub 7 III 3:19.4 1:39.7 353.2
67 Ant Stansbie M Sub 7 III 3:19.4 1:39.7 353.2
68 MaxDev M Free Spirits III 3:19.8 1:39.9 351.1
69 Neil Gear m MAD IV 3:19.9 1:40.0 350.5
70 Little Phill2 M The Banana Boat II 3:19.9 1:40.0 350.5
71 Petr Oliva m Free Spirits I 3:19.9 1:40.0 350.5
72 BartMan M Free Spirits IV 3:20.0 1:40.0 350.0
73 Julian Tomkinson M Team Oarsome III 3:20.0 1:40.0 350.0
74 Mikko Boris Z�chner M Free Spirits IV 3:20.2 1:40.1 349.0
75 Elchemist m Team Oarsome III 3:20.5 1:40.3 347.4
76 paulvz M Forum Flyers II 3:20.5 1:40.3 347.4
77 Steve Smith M Free Spirits IV 3:20.5 1:40.3 347.4
78 Kieran Cahill m MAD IV 3:20.7 1:40.4 346.4
79 Little Scally M The Banana Boat II 3:21.5 1:40.8 342.2
80 Andy Osborn M Sub 7 IV 3:21.9 1:41.0 340.2
81 Chris Kyle M Independent II 3:22.0 1:41.0 339.7
82 Ash M Team Oarsome IV 3:22.8 1:41.4 335.7
83 Matthew Burrows M Team Oarsome IV 3:22.8 1:41.4 335.7
84 Chris Adams M Taff Attack Racing I 3:22.8 1:41.4 335.7
85 Laurence Birdsey m Paddy Power I 3:23.2 1:41.6 333.7
86 Steve Blogg M Free Spirits V 3:23.3 1:41.7 333.2
87 Boris Bossi m Free Spirits II 3:23.4 1:41.7 332.7
88 Joe Lohman M Free Spirits V 3:23.4 1:41.7 332.7
89 Anthony Deacy M Taff Attack Racing II 3:23.5 1:41.8 332.2
90 Duncan Cambell M The Banana Boat II 3:23.5 1:41.8 332.2
91 Nigel Farmer M Forum Flyers II 3:23.9 1:42.0 330.3
92 Garrett Jeffries m Team Oarsome IV 3:24.0 1:42.0 329.8
93 dan holmes M Paddy Power II 3:24.6 1:42.3 326.9
94 Al Hallberg M Forum Flyers II 3:24.8 1:42.4 326.0
95 Raymond Botha M The Tsotsies I 3:24.8 1:42.4 326.0
96 Jo Lyons F MAD I 3:25.1 1:42.6 324.5
97 Matt Newman m Team Oarsome IV 3:25.2 1:42.6 324.1
98 Hennie Martini M Sub 7 IV 3:25.4 1:42.7 323.1
99 George King M Team Oarsome V 3:25.8 1:42.9 321.2
100 Andy Gannaway m Forum Flyers I 3:26.6 1:43.3 317.5
101 Dave "Magnus" Lippman M Team Oarsome V 3:26.7 1:43.4 317.1
102 Paul Victory M Free Spirits V 3:26.9 1:43.5 316.1
103 Yukon John m The Eh! Team I 3:27.0 1:43.5 315.7
104 Ray Hughes m Paddy Power II 3:27.0 1:43.5 315.7
105 Jamie Robson M Free Spirits VI 3:27.1 1:43.6 315.2
106 Joerg Werner M Dutch RowPros I 3:27.3 1:43.7 314.3
107 Fred Dickie M Forum Flyers III 3:27.3 1:43.7 314.3
108 David Taylor M Free Spirits VI 3:27.4 1:43.7 313.9
109 Mark Read M The Eh! Team I 3:27.4 1:43.7 313.9
110 Steve Rigg M Free Spirits VI 3:27.5 1:43.8 313.4
111 PeterWilkinson M Sub 7 IV 3:27.5 1:43.8 313.4
112 Colin Brinkman m Free Spirits III 3:27.9 1:44.0 311.6
113 Tiff m Paddy Power II 3:28.2 1:44.1 310.3
114 ancho M Sub 7 V 3:28.2 1:44.1 310.3
115 Dan Apps M Free Spirits VII 3:28.4 1:44.2 309.4
116 kieron casey M Sub 7 V 3:28.5 1:44.3 308.9
117 Rocket Roy m Team Oarsome V 3:29.0 1:44.5 306.7
118 graham fisher M Sub 7 V 3:29.3 1:44.7 305.4
119 Chippy M Taff Attack Racing II 3:29.5 1:44.8 304.5
120 Little Nick M The Banana Boat III 3:29.7 1:44.9 303.6
121 Rowland Hills M Sub 7 VI 3:29.8 1:44.9 303.2
122 Ian Northcott M Sub 7 VI 3:29.8 1:44.9 303.2
123 Andy Brown m The Banana Boat II 3:30.3 1:45.2 301.1
124 Dave O M Free Spirits VII 3:30.3 1:45.2 301.1
125 Steve Lazenby M Free Spirits VII 3:30.4 1:45.2 300.6
126 Matthew Wood m Sub 7 II 3:30.6 1:45.3 299.8
127 Dave Speed M Team Oarsome V 3:31.0 1:45.5 298.1
128 Russell Gardener M Sub 7 VI 3:31.3 1:45.7 296.8
129 Tom Begley M Free Spirits VIII 3:31.7 1:45.9 295.1
130 Robert Dyke m Independent II 3:31.8 1:45.9 294.7
131 Graham Hall m Team Oarsome VI 3:32.0 1:46.0 293.9
132 John Neufeldt M Forum Flyers III 3:32.0 1:46.0 293.9
133 JDB M Paddy Power II 3:32.1 1:46.1 293.5
134 Neil Mitchell M Free Spirits VIII 3:32.2 1:46.1 293.0
135 Nick Rockliff M Team Oarsome VI 3:32.2 1:46.1 293.0
136 Pete Collins M Sub 7 VII 3:32.8 1:46.4 290.6
137 Stephen Scarfe M Free Spirits VIII 3:33.0 1:46.5 289.7
138 Jef Hutchby m Sub 7 III 3:33.2 1:46.6 288.9
139 Gifford Lewis M Free Spirits IX 3:33.2 1:46.6 288.9
140 John Ferdinando m Forum Flyers II 3:33.2 1:46.6 288.9
141 Funkyrower M The Banana Boat III 3:33.3 1:46.7 288.5
142 Arno Calonius m Forum Flyers III 3:33.7 1:46.9 286.9
143 Mikael Calonius M Forum Flyers III 3:33.7 1:46.9 286.9
144 SimonG M Free Spirits IX 3:34.2 1:47.1 284.9
145 Dave Hafner M Team Rowbo I 3:34.6 1:47.3 283.3
146 Mario Miranda M Free Spirits IX 3:34.6 1:47.3 283.3
147 Daren (HWT) M Taff Attack Racing II 3:34.8 1:47.4 282.5
148 Dougie Lawson m Sub 7 IV 3:34.8 1:47.4 282.5
149 Little David M The Banana Boat III 3:36.0 1:48.0 277.8
150 Maars m Paddy Power III 3:36.0 1:48.0 277.8
151 Steve Price m MAD IV 3:36.2 1:48.1 277.1
152 EK-lite m Sub 7 V 3:36.3 1:48.2 276.7
153 Des Richardson M Taff Attack Racing III 3:36.4 1:48.2 276.3
154 jkathios M Free Spirits X 3:36.5 1:48.3 275.9
155 Tyn M The Eh! Team II 3:36.6 1:48.3 275.5
156 Big Dave K. M Independent III 3:37.4 1:48.7 272.5
157 Scott Daniel M Easy Sliders I 3:37.4 1:48.7 272.5
158 danwho M The Eh! Team II 3:37.6 1:48.8 271.8
159 Cynthia Drewry F The Eh! Team I 3:37.7 1:48.9 271.4
160 benm m Sub 7 VI 3:37.9 1:49.0 270.6
161 Kim Calonius M Forum Flyers IV 3:38.0 1:49.0 270.3
162 Paul Venables M Taff Attack Racing III 3:38.1 1:49.1 269.9
163 ulu M The Eh! Team II 3:38.6 1:49.3 268.0
164 Phil James M The Banana Boat IV 3:38.9 1:49.5 266.9
165 Mark Aitman M Free Spirits X 3:39.6 1:49.8 264.4
166 Kirk m The Eh! Team II 3:39.8 1:49.9 263.7
167 Neil Turner m Free Spirits IV 3:39.9 1:50.0 263.3
168 Kris Kuzniar m Forum Flyers IV 3:39.9 1:50.0 263.3
169 Gareth Storey m Taff Attack Racing II 3:40.0 1:50.0 263.0
170 danno m Sub 7 VII 3:40.0 1:50.0 263.0
171 Johnnybike M Independent III 3:40.7 1:50.4 260.5
172 Tom Rawls M Forum Flyers IV 3:41.0 1:50.5 259.4
173 OWIRC Little Helper F The Banana Boat I 3:41.0 1:50.5 259.4
174 Chris Whale M Forum Flyers IV 3:41.1 1:50.6 259.1
175 Roger Bangay m Free Spirits V 3:41.2 1:50.6 258.7
176 Peer Nielsen M Free Spirits X 3:41.3 1:50.7 258.4
177 TPMcT m Forum Flyers V 3:41.5 1:50.8 257.7
178 Craig Murray M Free Spirits XI 3:41.5 1:50.8 257.7
179 Darin M Sub 7 VII 3:41.6 1:50.8 257.3
180 George Meredith m Independent III 3:42.1 1:51.1 255.6
181 Trevor Reeves M The Eh! Team III 3:42.2 1:51.1 255.2
182 Gerry Keating M Paddy Power III 3:42.3 1:51.2 254.9
183 Rick Bayko m Forum Flyers V 3:42.3 1:51.2 254.9
184 Alex Volpi M The Tsotsies I 3:42.5 1:51.3 254.2
185 Steve Burrows m Paddy Power III 3:42.5 1:51.3 254.2
186 Speedster M Sub 7 VII 3:42.8 1:51.4 253.2
187 Jonathan Lemon m Free Spirits VI 3:43.7 1:51.9 250.1
188 Little Lee M The Banana Boat IV 3:43.9 1:52.0 249.5
189 Tiny Jamie m The Banana Boat III 3:44.0 1:52.0 249.1
190 Barry bazza59 Reynor M Paddy Power III 3:44.0 1:52.0 249.1
191 Steve G m Forum Flyers V 3:44.1 1:52.1 248.8
192 Wayne Boyd M Free Spirits XI 3:44.7 1:52.4 246.8
193 Taru Calonius F Forum Flyers I 3:45.0 1:52.5 245.8
194 Ben Rea m Forum Flyers V 3:45.2 1:52.6 245.2
195 Pierre Rainville m Free Spirits VII 3:45.2 1:52.6 245.2
196 Carla Stein (seat5) F Taff Attack Racing I 3:45.7 1:52.9 243.5
197 Joe A Keating m Paddy Power IV 3:45.7 1:52.9 243.5
198 Andrew Stanway M Free Spirits XI 3:45.8 1:52.9 243.2
199 Misty M Sub 7 VIII 3:45.8 1:52.9 243.2
200 Phil Hewitt M Free Spirits XII 3:46.0 1:53.0 242.6
201 Suemog F Sub 7 I 3:46.9 1:53.5 239.7
202 Joan Van Blom f Team Oarsome I 3:47.1 1:53.6 239.1
203 Craig Jack M Team Rowbo I 3:47.9 1:54.0 236.6
204 Helen Frykman F Team Oarsome II 3:48.2 1:54.1 235.6
205 Medusa f Forum Flyers II 3:48.3 1:54.2 235.3
206 Jenny Rowe F Forum Flyers III 3:48.4 1:54.2 235.0
207 Joelene Goodridge F Sub 7 II 3:48.5 1:54.3 234.7
208 Paul Gould M Free Spirits XII 3:48.6 1:54.3 234.4
209 The Ref m Forum Flyers VI 3:48.7 1:54.4 234.1
210 Chris Dodds M The Banana Boat IV 3:49.7 1:54.9 231.0
211 Davidaldridge m Free Spirits VIII 3:50.0 1:55.0 230.1
212 Helen Tilley F Taff Attack Racing II 3:50.2 1:55.1 229.5
213 Chris Henry M The Eh! Team III 3:50.3 1:55.2 229.2
214 Birkyboy m Sub 7 VIII 3:51.2 1:55.6 226.6
215 Michelle Houghton F Free Spirits I 3:51.3 1:55.7 226.3
216 Marcus Starling M Free Spirits XII 3:51.5 1:55.8 225.7
217 Mike Lawrenson M Free Spirits XIII 3:51.9 1:56.0 224.5
218 Little Ian M The Banana Boat V 3:52.1 1:56.1 223.9
219 Darren Fuller m The Banana Boat IV 3:52.1 1:56.1 223.9
220 Alistair Slade M Free Spirits XIII 3:52.7 1:56.4 222.2
221 Philip Price m Free Spirits IX 3:53.1 1:56.6 221.1
222 Harriet Morgan F Forum Flyers IV 3:53.4 1:56.7 220.2
223 Godfried M Taff Attack I 3:53.6 1:56.8 219.7
224 John Spooner M Free Spirits XIII 3:54.4 1:57.2 217.4
225 Nigel Scott m Free Spirits X 3:55.2 1:57.6 215.2
226 Gene Kelley m Team Rowbo I 3:55.3 1:57.7 214.9
227 David Moores M The Tsotsies II 3:55.4 1:57.7 214.7
228 Krysta Coleman F Taff Attack Racing III 3:55.7 1:57.9 213.8
229 Julie Stroud f Team Oarsome III 3:55.8 1:57.9 213.6
230 Arlene Wade f Independent I 3:56.1 1:58.1 212.8
231 Aaron Chappell M The Banana Boat V 3:56.7 1:58.4 211.1
232 janet vorberg F Sub 7 III 3:57.2 1:58.6 209.8
233 Adrian Millar M Taff Attack Racing III 3:57.7 1:58.9 208.5
234 kamdo (k mikesell) m Team Rowbo I 3:57.8 1:58.9 208.2
235 Kelly Sapsford f MAD II 3:58.4 1:59.2 206.7
236 John Rupp m Independent III 3:58.4 1:59.2 206.7
237 Jemma Cropper F Bexhill Rowing Club I 3:58.4 1:59.2 206.7
238 Frazer Hallberg m Forum Flyers VI 3:58.8 1:59.4 205.6
239 Emma O'Hara F Team Oarsome IV 3:58.9 1:59.5 205.4
240 Kinley Gregg F Independent II 3:59.7 1:59.9 203.3
241 siobhan w F MAD III 3:59.9 2:00.0 202.8
242 Przemo M Free Spirits XIV 4:00.0 2:00.0 202.5
243 Brian Griffiths M Free Spirits XIV 4:00.2 2:00.1 202.0
244 kurt m Free Spirits XI 4:01.9 2:01.0 197.8
245 Shirley F Forum Flyers V 4:03.0 2:01.5 195.1
246 Bill Palmer M Forum Flyers VI 4:03.1 2:01.6 194.9
247 Mike Channin M Free Spirits XIV 4:04.0 2:02.0 192.7
248 Calgary Rob m The Eh! Team III 4:04.5 2:02.3 191.6
249 David Plumb m Free Spirits XII 4:04.8 2:02.4 190.9
250 Doug1942 M Independent IV 4:04.9 2:02.5 190.6
251 Kay Hughes F Team Oarsome V 4:05.2 2:02.6 189.9
252 Robin Steer F Free Spirits II 4:05.5 2:02.8 189.2
253 Ptruz M Free Spirits XV 4:05.6 2:02.8 189.0
254 Anne Badanes F Forum Flyers VI 4:05.7 2:02.9 188.8
255 JanetS F Free Spirits III 4:06.0 2:03.0 188.1
256 Hannah Pole f Paddy Power I 4:06.2 2:03.1 187.6
257 Jet Ski Lady F Sub 7 IV 4:06.3 2:03.2 187.4
258 Lisa B F The Banana Boat II 4:07.0 2:03.5 185.8
259 Tim Doody M Free Spirits XV 4:07.8 2:03.9 184.0
260 bob davinson M Free Spirits XV 4:08.8 2:04.4 181.8
261 Steven Moody m The Banana Boat V 4:10.0 2:05.0 179.2
262 P-SARGE m Free Spirits XIII 4:10.4 2:05.2 178.3
263 Kit McCandie f The Eh! Team II 4:10.9 2:05.5 177.3
264 Beulah Martin F The Tsotsies I 4:11.5 2:05.8 176.0
265 Mark Day M The Banana Boat V 4:11.8 2:05.9 175.4
266 Brendin M Taff Attack Racing IV 4:12.0 2:06.0 175.0
267 SaraB F The Banana Boat III 4:13.0 2:06.5 172.9
268 PaulH M Forum Flyers VI 4:13.5 2:06.8 171.9
269 DDB f Free Spirits IV 4:13.6 2:06.8 171.7
270 Margaret Drumm F The Eh! Team III 4:14.3 2:07.2 170.3
271 Little Weed f Sub 7 V 4:14.9 2:07.5 169.1
272 Nathan Stannard m The Banana Boat VI 4:18.2 2:09.1 162.7
273 John Cousins m The Eh! Team III 4:19.0 2:09.5 161.2
274 Joe Horton m The Banana Boat VI 4:20.8 2:10.4 157.8
275 KerryB F The Banana Boat IV 4:21.0 2:10.5 157.5
276 Fiona Webber f Free Spirits V 4:24.3 2:12.2 151.7
277 Shannon Meekins f The Eh! Team IV 4:26.8 2:13.4 147.4
278 Gaye McOnie F Free Spirits VI 4:26.8 2:13.4 147.4
279 Rika Werner F The Tsotsies II 4:27.4 2:13.7 146.4
280 ZoeB F The Banana Boat V 4:29.3 2:14.7 143.4
281 JulieG F Sub 7 VI 4:30.3 2:15.2 141.8
282 Kris Jones F Free Spirits VII 4:31.7 2:15.9 139.6
283 Sharon Percival f The Banana Boat VI 4:32.1 2:16.1 139.0
284 Kathy Palmer f The Banana Boat VI 4:33.1 2:16.6 137.5
285 Sandra Taylor f Free Spirits VIII 4:34.7 2:17.4 135.1
286 Jessica-Red F Free Spirits IX 4:38.8 2:19.4 129.2
287 Liz Houchin f The Banana Boat VI 4:42.9 2:21.5 123.7
288 Rita Monde F Free Spirits X 4:43.9 2:22.0 122.4
289 Linda Fulmer F Free Spirits XI 4:45.8 2:22.9 119.9
290 Ellen Dollar F RowPro Rowers I 4:46.7 2:23.4 118.8
291 Mrs Maars F Paddy Power II 4:47.0 2:23.5 118.4
292 Racheal Miles f The Banana Boat VII 4:48.0 2:24.0 117.2
293 Tamsin W-P f Free Spirits XII 4:49.8 2:24.9 115.0
294 Sarah H f Sub 7 VII 4:50.1 2:25.1 114.7
295 Jemma Hall f Team Oarsome VI 4:54.2 2:27.1 110.0
296 David Calder M The Eh! Team IV 4:59.0 2:29.5 104.7
297 Mo Robinson M The Banana Boat VII 5:02.0 2:31.0 101.7
298 Tracey B f MAD IV 5:09.9 2:35.0 94.1
299 Nick Nelson m The Eh! Team IV 5:12.1 2:36.1 92.1
300 Terri T f Free Spirits XIII 5:19.1 2:39.6 86.2
301 Dtruz F Free Spirits XIV 5:21.9 2:41.0 83.9
302 Ulla F Paddy Power III 5:32.0 2:46.0 76.5
303 Joann Simpson f The Banana Boat VII 5:32.8 2:46.4 76.0
304 Marjorie Cousins F The Eh! Team IV 5:56.0 2:58.0 62.1
305 Sydney L f Free Spirits XIV 6:15.0 3:07.5 53.1
306 Elaine Boden f The Banana Boat VII 6:18.4 3:09.2 51.7
307 roadrunner m

ranger

[chgoss]

<sigh>

one last time to get you to stop squirming and answer the question.

did you knowingly lie when you said that :

1Kr24 @ 1:38 is 15.5 SPI

No 55s lwt can come within six seconds per 500m of these scores.

Here were 1K rankings in the 55s lwt last year:

John Busk 55 Slangerup DEN 3:17.2 IND
Rich Cureton 57 Michigan USA 3:17.4 IND
Rolf Meek 58 Oslo NOR 3:20.8 IND
Peter Lange 57 Bremerhaven Bremen GER 3:23.9 IND_V
Paul Ferguson 55 Melbourne VIC AUS 3:26.4 IND
Mark Underwood 57 Bremerton WA USA 3:27.8 IND
John Harvey 58 Perth WA AUS 3:28.9 IND
Ed Pabst 59 Terre Haute IN USA 3:30.1 IND
James Taylor 56 DeLand FL USA 3:31.3 C2Log
Joe Keating 59 London IRL 3:31.5 IND_V
Alan Gnauck 56 Middletown NJ USA 3:33.0 IND
Stephen Sepe 58 Katonah NY USA 3:34.9 IND
Bram van Sonderen 55 Den Helder NLD 3:37.2 IND

ranger

[ranger]

<sigh>

one last time to get you to stop squirming and answer the question.

did you knowingly lie when you said that :

1Kr24 @ 1:38 is 15.5 SPI

No 55s lwt can come within six seconds per 500m of these scores.

Here were 1K rankings in the 55s lwt last year:

John Busk 55 Slangerup DEN 3:17.2 IND
Rich Cureton 57 Michigan USA 3:17.4 IND
Rolf Meek 58 Oslo NOR 3:20.8 IND
Peter Lange 57 Bremerhaven Bremen GER 3:23.9 IND_V
Paul Ferguson 55 Melbourne VIC AUS 3:26.4 IND
Mark Underwood 57 Bremerton WA USA 3:27.8 IND
John Harvey 58 Perth WA AUS 3:28.9 IND
Ed Pabst 59 Terre Haute IN USA 3:30.1 IND
James Taylor 56 DeLand FL USA 3:31.3 C2Log
Joe Keating 59 London IRL 3:31.5 IND_V
Alan Gnauck 56 Middletown NJ USA 3:33.0 IND
Stephen Sepe 58 Katonah NY USA 3:34.9 IND
Bram van Sonderen 55 Den Helder NLD 3:37.2 IND

ranger

No, apparently, not.

I _wish_ 55s lwts were faster, but unfortunately, wishing isn't seeing.

The 55s lwt 2K WR-holder does 1:44.5 for 1Kr24.

ranger

[DUThomas]

While it's certainly fascinating that a 1Kr24 time predicts a one-legged 2K-12 free rate time, to row-row is better than to jaw-jaw (to paraphrase Churchill).

When are you going to stop extrapolating WR times and start rowing them?

[chgoss]

<sigh>

one last time to get you to stop squirming and answer the question.

did you knowingly lie when you said that :

1Kr24 @ 1:38 is 15.5 SPI

No 55s lwt can come within six seconds per 500m of these scores.

Here were 1K rankings in the 55s lwt last year:

John Busk 55 Slangerup DEN 3:17.2 IND
Rich Cureton 57 Michigan USA 3:17.4 IND
Rolf Meek 58 Oslo NOR 3:20.8 IND
Peter Lange 57 Bremerhaven Bremen GER 3:23.9 IND_V
Paul Ferguson 55 Melbourne VIC AUS 3:26.4 IND
Mark Underwood 57 Bremerton WA USA 3:27.8 IND
John Harvey 58 Perth WA AUS 3:28.9 IND
Ed Pabst 59 Terre Haute IN USA 3:30.1 IND
James Taylor 56 DeLand FL USA 3:31.3 C2Log
Joe Keating 59 London IRL 3:31.5 IND_V
Alan Gnauck 56 Middletown NJ USA 3:33.0 IND
Stephen Sepe 58 Katonah NY USA 3:34.9 IND
Bram van Sonderen 55 Den Helder NLD 3:37.2 IND

ranger

No, apparently, not.

I _wish_ 55s lwts were faster, but unfortunately, wishing isn't seeing.

The 55s lwt 2K WR-holder does 1:44.5 for 1Kr24.

ranger

OK, you wont own up to the lie.. that makes you a troll (someone that purposefully says things to get a rise out of other people).

I had been trying to see if there was some kind of method to your madness.. some way that you were looking at the data such that you thought you were actually telling the truth. But, that isnt the case. You have clearly demonstrated your willingness to lie, to be dis-honest and deceitfull, that's a different thing.

so, you are dismissed.

[ranger]

so, you are dismissed.

Thank God.

I am _delighted_ to be dismissed from _your_ class.



Good luck with your rowing.

You'll need it.

ranger

[ranger]

When are you going to stop extrapolating WR times and start rowing them?

Been there, done that.

I already have three WR rows.

Good training proceeds from low rates to high.

You can jump to high rates if you want, but if you do, you eliminate all of the significant parts of your training.

If I hadn't already rowed 6:27.5, 6:28, 6:28.5, 6:29, 6:29.7, 6:30, etc., I suppose I would do this, just to see what I could do.

But I already know what I can do if I elide all the significant parts of my training and sharpen: 6:28-6:30.

Nothing to be learned there.

So these days, I am interested in what I can do if I train well, proceeding from low rates to high.

I am now rowing at 27-32 spm, so I am getting rates up pretty high.

This is distance/threshold rowing, but it is not yet sharpening or racing.

I'll sharpen at 40 spm.

I'll race at 36 spm.

ranger

[hjs]

When are you going to stop extrapolating WR times and start rowing them?

Been there, done that.
I already have three WR rows.
Good training proceeds from low rates to high.
You can jump to high rates if you want, but if you do, you eliminate all of the significant parts of your training.
If I hadn't already rowed 6:27.5, 6:28, 6:28.5, 6:29, 6:29.7, 6:30, etc., I suppose I would do this, just to see what I could do.
But I already know what I can do if I elide all the significant parts of my training and sharpen: 6:28-6:30.


ranger

Dangy boy,

Can you name one sportsman in any sport that brook his pb s after the age of 50, not being a total novice.
By novice I mean someone who hasn,t competed in races yet. One example would be enough

[pmacaula]

Sorry about confusing Toronto with Indianapolis...I went to so many races last winter I lost track!...No, I didn't exaggerate the number...

Fair enough, though suggest it would be more accurate to say you completed four races last season.

You were impressed with my results six or seven years ago?...What about three years ago, when I pulled 6:29.7 at 55, without even preparing for it?

You would be well served to take compliments when they are given rather than churlishly upbraid the giver for not paying sufficient attention to you.

Based on the sporadic attention I give to this whole topic, the impression is that by your own standards, anything less than a WR row is below expectation. Further, you have not really raced hard or trained to race since '03 (or thereabouts).

From my irregular and quick reads of the the forums & blogs, WRs are the standard to which you hold all others. I may have missed something, as my interest in 50+ erging stats is not all that great. Truth be told, this is the case for all erging stats, my own included. Your knowledge in this area seems almost encyclopedic & I defer to you in that regard.

Like many others, I am far more interested in stuff directly relevant to me (or about me ), such as - "I enjoyed my first season sculling and am reasonably happy with my race results, but how can I improve given the doc has told me my hip problem cannot be fixed without replacement surgery ?".

That said, I do not have the desire to start or maintain a thread that is primarily about me (though, like every other newbie, I did briefly when first finding the C2 forums).

The topic on these forums that really gets my interest is training methods. I did my best for a while to maintain one on The Wolverine Plan, but it seems that there is a lot less interest it in these days than would sustain an active thread. A shame, but then again, there is a lot of clear documentation from Mike Caviston and plenty of good supporting information in the archives, so maybe further chat is redundant.

Sincerely, Patrick.

[snowleopard]

Based on the sporadic attention I give to this whole topic, the impression is that by your own standards, anything less than a WR row is below expectation.

Not quite. ranger has stated endlessly that his sights are firmly set on a 6:16 2K. Something that puts him up there with Olympic hopefuls.

We must never, ever lose sight of this target because even if ranger sets a new WR aged 60 (actually quite likely), he must be reminded at all times that the target was 6:16 and not the beating of an age group WR by a full time athlete.

[pjc]

you know, it takes two to tango guys. the reason the ranger threads go on so long is other people keep baiting ranger.

IMHO - the guy's earned the right to toot his horn a little. maybe if he was some middle-of-the-packer his posts would be totally stupid, but he's the reigning champ for his age-weight class and he's bagged some WRs. there are plenty of folks out there who put in the time and aren't any near to doing those things (probably the exact same folks that keep poking at ranger). seems pretty clear than ranger is (a) a blowhard and (b) smarter than your average bloke.

[ranger]

Not quite. ranger has stated endlessly that his sights are firmly set on a 6:16 2K. Something that puts him up there with Olympic hopefuls.

We must never, ever lose sight of this target because even if ranger sets a new WR aged 60 (actually quite likely), he must be reminded at all times that the target was 6:16 and not the beating of an age group WR by a full time athlete.

Indeed.

When I am fully trained, my goal is 6:16, not 6:28 (my pb), much less 6:38 (the 55s lwt WR), or 6:42 (the 60s lwt WR).

ranger

[ranger]

Based on the sporadic attention I give to this whole topic, the impression is that by your own standards, anything less than a WR row is below expectation.

Sure, but this has (perhaps?) been a little too optimistic, given that I have only been doing foundational training.

After my distance training, I think I will pull sub-6:30, but probably not before.

I won't pull sub-6:20 until I am fully trained (i.e., after I am not with full sharpening and perhaps a month or so of racing).

ranger

[ranger]

Can you name one sportsman in any sport that broke his pb s after the age of 50, not being a total novice

Sure, _I_ did.

I first started racing in 2002, when I was 51.

In 2003-2004, when I was 52, I pulled a lwt 6:36 (which was a lwt pb for me), then two weeks later) a lwt 6:33, then (two weeks later) a lwt 6:30, then (six months later) a lwt 6:29, then (two weeks later) a lwt 6:28.

Progress from there demanded that I learn to row more effectively.

I have now done that.

So, I think I am now ready to continue this series, all the way down to a lwt 6:16.

lwt 6:28 (55 lwt WR), lwt 6:25 (50s lwt WR), 6:22 (60s lwt WR), 6:20, 6:18 (40s lwt WR, 55s hwt WR), 6:16.

ranger

[Citroen]

IMHO - the guy's earned the right to toot his horn a little.

Your definition of "little" and mine are clearly at opposite ends of the spectrum. Prof. Cureton has been blowing his trumpet with the same dull old crap for all the time I've been a member of this forum and the UK one at http://concept2.co.uk/forum, he appears to have been doing it (to the point of total tedium) for some time longer than that.

There have been some interesting offers and bets (one including gold bars) from the folks that feed on his stuff over that time.