The Equalizer

ranger · Post by **ranger** » October 25th, 2009, 2:25 am

bloomp wrote:See, now that he can't live up to his boasts, he claims it's all for fun! Just a game lads, nothing to see here, no really don't take me seriously!

Having a lot of good fun is one of the most serious issues in life, Paul, as you will discover when you are old enough to have experienced it.

Life is pretty complicated.

Some of it is not much fun at all.

So, what healthy, productive fun you can muster for yourself along the way is very important, as a balance.

Your attitudes here just broadcast your youth and inexperience.

It's fun to row well, win races, break records, be the best, even be the best you can be.

No?

ranger

ranger · Post by **ranger** » October 25th, 2009, 5:40 am

hjs wrote:
ranger wrote:BTW, Cahill says that he can teach anyone 90% of the rowing stroke in five minutes, but that the other 10% takes a lifetime to learn.

Nice point.

10% of a 8:00 race is 48 seconds.

ranger
hahahah mister Eh numbers ?? "those go way above my head".

10 % is 10 % off power, speed and power are far from linear.

If we take a 7.00 min. erger, 1.45/500 or 302 watts, 10 % increese would give 332 watt, that is 141.8/500, so speedwise only 3.1 % faster, that would only be 12.4 seconds.

So if you think this 90 % rule is true, you can only improve 12.4 seconds on technique, the rest has to come from conditioning.
And here you are after years and years and still "not ready".

Most veteran rowers, I think, are not even getting 90% of the stroke.

They need a basic lesson from Cahill.

I think I probably got 90% of the stroke right back 2002-2003.

I rowed in a relaxed way, with flat splits, on my toes, with a lot of back and core, at a high rate, and without neglecting my legs entirely.

But I still had poor catches, timing, sequencing, finishes, and recoveries.

Quite a bit to work on!

It has taken a while, but these technical flaws are now corrected.

ranger

hjs · Post by **hjs** » October 25th, 2009, 5:56 am

ranger wrote:
hjs wrote:
ranger wrote:BTW, Cahill says that he can teach anyone 90% of the rowing stroke in five minutes, but that the other 10% takes a lifetime to learn.

Nice point.

10% of a 8:00 race is 48 seconds.

ranger
hahahah mister Eh numbers ?? "those go way above my head".

10 % is 10 % off power, speed and power are far from linear.

If we take a 7.00 min. erger, 1.45/500 or 302 watts, 10 % increese would give 332 watt, that is 141.8/500, so speedwise only 3.1 % faster, that would only be 12.4 seconds.

So if you think this 90 % rule is true, you can only improve 12.4 seconds on technique, the rest has to come from conditioning.
And here you are after years and years and still "not ready".
Most veteran rowers, I think, are not even getting 90% of the stroke.

They need a basic lesson from Cahill.

I think I probably got 90% of the stroke right back 2002-2003.
I rowed in a relaxed way, with flat splits, on my toes, with a lot of back and core, at a high rate, and without neglecting my legs entirely.
But I still had poor catches, timing, sequencing, finishes, and recoveries.
Quite a bit to work on!It has taken a while, but these technical flaws are not corrected.

ranger

better technique but a lot slower, that can mean two things, 1 your technique is not better and 2 your body is slowing down rappidly. Very likely a combination of the both

Yankeerunner · Post by **Yankeerunner** » October 25th, 2009, 7:13 am

ranger wrote:
It has taken a while, but these technical flaws are not corrected.

ranger

Simple typo? Or Freudian slip?

ranger · Post by **ranger** » October 25th, 2009, 10:46 am

hjs wrote:better technique but a lot slower, that can mean two things

No, it only means one thing.

I haven't yet trained to race.

I have just been correcting these technical faults, doing foundational rowing.

I am now doing distance rowing.

The improvement in technique should show up there first.

Then it will show up in my sharpening, which I will do after I am done with my distance rowing.

Then it will show up in my racing, which I will do after I am done with my sharpening.

ranger

ranger · Post by **ranger** » October 25th, 2009, 12:09 pm

Yankeerunner wrote:
ranger wrote:
It has taken a while, but these technical flaws are not corrected.

ranger
Simple typo? Or Freudian slip?

Sorry about the typo.

I have now corrected it, too.

Key-strokes can be as unruly as rowing strokes.

ranger

KevJGK · Post by **KevJGK** » October 25th, 2009, 2:27 pm

ranger wrote: Your attitudes here just broadcast your youth and inexperience.

And what do you think yours broadcast; loud & clear?

snowleopard · Post by **snowleopard** » October 25th, 2009, 3:59 pm

ranger

Thinking about 90% of the rowing stroke, don't you DNS about 90% of the races you enter?

hjs · Post by **hjs** » October 26th, 2009, 3:54 am

ranger wrote:
hjs wrote:better technique but a lot slower, that can mean two things
No, it only means one thing.

I haven't yet .......
I have just been ............
I am now ..........
The improvement in technique should .........
Then it will ..............
Then it will

ranger

Lot's and lot's of ifs

and this after 5 years, every if takes at least another 5 year. So.................

If ever

nah you won,t..

ranger · Post by **ranger** » October 26th, 2009, 4:14 am

KevJGK wrote:
ranger wrote: Your attitudes here just broadcast your youth and inexperience.
And what do you think yours broadcast; loud & clear?

The attitudes of a champion?

Certainly, not _your_ attitudes.

Nay-sayers are fools, and fools are losers.

Nay-saying is _both_ self-destructive and asocial.

Nasty stuff.

Nay-sayers wouldn't know what it takes to be a winner if it bit them on the ass.

ranger

ranger · Post by **ranger** » October 26th, 2009, 4:19 am

hjs wrote:Lot's and lot's of ifs

No "ifs" at all, Henry.

This last season, I had the best 2K in my age and weight division by three seconds, without even preparing for it, just on the basis of foundational training, without any hard distance rowing or hard sharpening.

I get about a dozen seconds each over 2K from hard distance rowing and sharpening.

I am doing hard distance rowing now.

When I am done with distance trials, I will do hard sharpening.

I am done with my foundational training.

No more rowing at low rates.

Just hard distance rowing and sharpening from now until WIRC.

ranger

hjs · Post by **hjs** » October 26th, 2009, 4:44 am

ranger wrote:
hjs wrote:Lot's and lot's of ifs
No "ifs" at all, Henry.

This last season, I had the best 2K in my age and weight division by three seconds, without even preparing for it, just on the basis of foundational training, without any hard distance rowing or hard sharpening.
ranger

Yes Rich, 25 seconds above your season target, you did exactly what I predicted what could do hahaha remember? , this was on the back of a string of races, some people might call that sharpening

After this last row your body gave out and you couldn,t compete at wirc anymore.
This made me win our bet, when are you gonna pay up?

ranger · Post by **ranger** » October 26th, 2009, 6:34 am

hjs wrote:Yes Rich

Glad you agree.

You can't be better than the best.

The rest is gravy.

And I have been mixing up a particularly rich and spicy one this time.

Gimme Gravy on my Mashed Potatoes

http://www.last.fm/music/Dee+Dee+Sharp/ ... otatoes%29

ranger

ranger · Post by **ranger** » October 26th, 2009, 6:38 am

BTW, given all of the discussion about the costs of health care at the moment, most of which is just due to obesity, and therefore is entirely preventable; if everyone in the United States did four hours of physical exercise a day, as I have been doing most of the time these days, just spending as much time on their physical life as they did on other things, over a few years, collectively, the people of the United States might lose as much as two _billion_ pounds of fat.

Chuck the diets; throw away the scales.

Everyone could eat like a horse but still be lean as a rail.

ranger

hjs · Post by **hjs** » October 26th, 2009, 6:50 am

ranger wrote:BTW, given all of the discussion about the costs of health care at the moment, most of which is just due to obesity, and therefore is entirely preventable; if everyone in the United States did four hours of physical exercise a day, as I have been doing most of the time these days, just spending as much time on their physical life as they did on other things, over a few years, collectively, the people of the United States might lose as much as two _billion_ pounds of fat.

ranger

Why not simply stop putting everything on your mouth, like every sane human being does