The Equalizer

[ranger]

Pete didn,t need yearssssssssssss to learn

Total BS.

Anyway.

This point is irrelevant.

ranger

Hmmm remind me who brought this up?


Ps Boris Becker won wimbledon on his 16 th, his main weapon was his serve. A few years before he was a little boy, so it took him indeed yearssssssssssssssssssssss to master that hahahaha


You are not just full of shit, you are only shit

Many of the great tennis players started to learn the game when they were just old enough to toddle around the court and hold a racket.

Many of the best tennis players have been playing the game for a decade, often under close professional supervision, by the time they are 16.

I was on speed skates as soon as I could walk. I was a state champion when I was six.

Tiger Woods was swinging a golf club before he could see over the dash board of a car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxPmzIKBris

Most of the great California swimmers started swimming competitively before they were in nursery school.

Check this out:

"Venus began playing tennis when she was only 4 years old. By the time she was 7, she had come to the attention of tennis great John McEnroe and Pete Sampras, both of whom encouraged her to continue to pursue the game. At the tender age of 10, Venus was ranked the number one player in the keenly competitive under-12 division of Southern California, a ranking inherited not long thereafter by younger sister Serena. So strong was Venus's game as a pre-teen that she won 63 consecutive matches without a single loss. Word of her talent reached the media, and in the summer of 1991 both Sports Illustrated and Tennis ran stories about the amazing tennis prodigy from the mean streets of Compton. All the publicity was accompanied by growing criticism of Richard Williams' singleminded focus on making Venus into a tennis star with little regard for giving her any semblance of a normal childhood."

Jimmy Connor's mother was the most unusual case.

Her placenta was shaped like a tennis racket.

Jimmy started playing in the womb.

It's best to start early!

LeBron James could have played in the NBA when he was 10.

His high school games got national media coverage.

He da man!

ranger

[ranger]

Hmmm remind me who brought this up?

You did.

So it is not surprising that it's irrelevant.

ranger

[hjs]

Hmmm remind me who brought this up?

You did.

So it is not surprising that it's irrelevant.

ranger

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject:

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hjs wrote:
here you go wrong, erger is a very simple sport, look at top races and look at the technique that is used, nothing fancy about it, just pull the chain.


Well...

Sure, _everything_ is easy, once you learn how to do it.

But if you haven't learned how to do it...
Well...
Look at someone like Pete Sampras, as he hits in a first serve with pinpoint accuracy at 135 mph.
No problem!
Looks easy.
Just hit the ball.

ranger[/quote]

[snowleopard]

I was on speed skates as soon as I could walk. I was a state champion when I was six.

And just wtf has that to do with anything at all? Did you go on to be an Olympic or world speed skating champion? No. Did you even advance beyond toddler league state champion aged six? And if you did, who cares anyway?

You participated in sport as millions do. You did not distinguish yourself in any sport until you happened upon minor league erging at an age when true champions are just playing for fun. BFD.

[bloomp]

I was on speed skates as soon as I could walk. I was a state champion when I was six.

And just wtf has that to do with anything at all? Did you go on to be an Olympic or world speed skating champion? No. Did you even advance beyond toddler league state champion aged six? And if you did, who cares anyway?

You participated in sport as millions do. You did not distinguish yourself in any sport until you happened upon minor league erging at an age when true champions are just playing for fun. BFD.

exactly. The real prize is winning OTW.

Paul

[ranger]

You did not distinguish yourself in any sport

It looks as though rowing is my sport--and for good reason.

It combines all of the other competitive sports that I did, each for over 10 years--canoeing, skating, swimming, track, cross country, marathon running, swimming.

True, I didn't row competitively when I was younger, but only for accidental reasons.

I never had the opportunity.

ranger

[ranger]

The real prize is winning OTW

Indeed, although this might be recognized, too: the best OTW rowers are also the best ergers.

ranger

[ranger]

you happened upon minor league erging at an age when true champions are just playing for fun

Yes, most great young rowers don't maintain their fitness into middle age.

So, in middle age, they can only row for fun.

Most of those who didn't row earlier don't row well, so in middle age, they also can only row for fun.

I am middle aged and didn't row earlier, but I now row well--an unusual case.

A lwt 6:16 meets the erging standard for the US National Team.

It will be interesting to see whether I can meet this standard.

Just for fun.

ranger

[bloomp]

The real prize is winning OTW

Indeed, although this might be recognized, too: the best OTW rowers are also the best ergers.

ranger

not true. If this was the case, all rowers would be heavyweights. And technique wouldn't matter one bit. But you've never really rowed so you wouldn't get the finer points of reach and rigger rotation, swing and catching together. Gotta be able to do all that, not rush up the slide and keep eve handles before you will be able to truly move a boat.

You are far too self-centered and egotistical to ever make it with a real crew. Classic professor.

Paul

[ranger]

You are far too self-centered

As E.E. Cummings liked to say, "I have never met a self that wasn't centered."

You are no exception, Paulie boy.

False modesty is shabby garb and a great excuse for passivity, laziness, low ambition, a disregard for standards, the squandering of talents, and many other ills of modern society (envy, resentment, feelings of victimization, etc.).

All the false modesty these days is just a reflex of social/democratic leveling.

It is politically incorrect to be good at something, if most people are just average, or even bad.

This is _entirely_ different from _true_ modesty, which involves a worshiping of what is good and a striving for that ideal, even if it is not in your immediate interest, social or otherwise.

ranger

[ranger]

you will be able to truly move a boat

Yes, I think I will, although I certainly have a lot to learn before that happens.

Thanks for the vote of confidence.

ranger

[ranger]

If this was the case, all rowers would be heavyweights.

Yes, weight is an issue.

As I have mentioned many times, I think that the erg should have a built-in scale and a monitor that measures accomplishment in watts/kg.

At 75 kgs., a 6:16 2K is 5.6 watts/kg.

Nice!

Then again, indoor rowing has weight classes.

Did you notice?

ranger

[hjs]

you will be able to truly move a boat

Yes, I think I will, although I certainly have a lot to learn before that happens.

Thanks for the vote of confidence.

ranger

Learn to move a boat? With his current time scedule moving a coffin is more likely

[bloomp]

You are far too self-centered

As E.E. Cummings liked to say, "I have never met a self that wasn't centered."

You are no exception, Paulie boy.

False modesty is shabby garb and a great excuse for passivity, laziness, low ambition, a disregard for standards, the squandering of talents, and many other ills of modern society (envy, resentment, feelings of victimization, etc.).

All the false modesty these days is just a reflex of social/democratic leveling.

It is politically incorrect to be good at something, if most people are just average, or even bad.

This is _entirely_ different from _true_ modesty, which involves a worshiping of what is good and a striving for that ideal, even if it is not in your immediate interest, social or otherwise.

ranger

Richy rich,

Unlike you, I don't mind coming to terms with what I am lacking in. I admit when a piece goes wrong, I admit my frustrations and I work through it. But the difference between us is that I actually am honest about what I do, yet you can't make up your mind about which of your silly training 'phases' you are in. Are you sharpening? Are you doing distance rowing? Clearly it's not foundational because you've already learned to row, but you are still learning! You still have not raced your single. And you never will be able to move a boat that has more than just your pathetic self in it.

And I have never claimed to be better than anyone at erging, I just work as hard as I can because I know that I am continually improving. I learn through my failures. You seem to be afraid to admit you might not live up to what you claim to be capable of.

On the water rowing has weight classes too, but it's been shown many times that a lightweight rower or crew can be as fast or faster than a heavyweight crew. Are you still at weight? You have seemed to stopped mentioning it. Hell, you seem to have started slacking! What's wrong? Realizing you can't do all these things?

I might choke on my own words, but you won't come within 15 seconds of Terry Cahill this weekend. From my research, he's a consistent and experienced sculler with a lot of victories. Why would I be confident in a man who has never actually raced on the water?

Paul

[ranger]

Are you doing distance rowing?

Yes.

My foundational rowing is done.

When I am done with distance rowing, I will sharpen.

ranger