6:28 2K

[ranger]

Being realistic is looking at facts

In training?

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Facts are doings.

Training is _preparation_ for doings.

Good training is always directed toward the future, toward goals, not toward present performances.

If you are unimaginative, you can't train worth a damn.

You're a dolt.

ranger

[JohnBove]

Over the last five years, I haven't been training to race,

ranger

Liar.

[hjs]

Being realistic is looking at facts

In training?

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Facts are doings.

Training is _preparation_ for doings.

Good training is always directed toward the future, toward goals, not toward present performances.

If you are unimaginative, you can't train worth a damn.

You're a dolt.

ranger

rowing 2.00 and calling that 1.45 , that is helpfull always check your facts. I you want to drean do that at night

[ranger]

In Head races, I see that the handicap for a 58-year-old in Masters Singles is 72 seconds.

There's that seven seconds per 500m again!

The system of handicapping assumes that I am now slowing down by five seconds a year over 5K, one second per 500m every two years.

The handicap for a 60-year-old in masters singles is 81.6 seconds.

ranger

[hjs]

In Head races, I see that the handicap for a 58-year-old in Masters Singles is 72 seconds.

There's that seven seconds per 500m again!

The system of handicapping assumes that I am now slowing down by five seconds a year over 5K, one second per 500m every two years.

The handicap for a 60-year-old in masters singles is 81.6 seconds.

ranger

Slowing down ? You seem to get the aging proces finally.

[ranger]

Slowing down ?

I _can't_ be slowing down in my head races.

I have never done one.



Anyway, I think I will keep improving in my head races for the next five years or so, at least, as my experience OTW broadens and deepens and my OTW technique improves.

I will also get much better OTW when my goals on the erg are realized and I now longer erg in the spring, summer, and fall, when I can row OTW.

Like other OTW rowers, after I pull that lwt 6:16 on the erg, I'll just erg in the winter, when I can't row OTW.

ranger

[whp4]

Like other OTW rowers, after I pull that lwt 6:16 on the erg, I'll just erg in the winter, when I can't row OTW.

You're going to be a year-round erger for the rest of your life, because you won't be doing a 6:16 on the erg at any weight!

[DUThomas]

Anyway, I think I will keep improving in my head for the next five years or so, at least, as my OTW experience broadens and deepens and my OTW technique improves.

It reads better without the word "races"; please let me know if you need further assistance with editing your work. You're welcome.

[hjs]

Hour erg, two-hour bike

I am now locking on very nicely to 1:37 @ 31 spm (12.4 SPI, 10 MPS).

I'll need 4 x 1K of this and 8 x 500m at 1:34, and then I will be ready for an at-home 2K trial at 1:37.

After the at-home 2K trial, I'll be ready to start hard sharpening.

During hard sharpening, the goal is to build up the rate and my anaerobic capacities so that I can race at 36 spm and 11.7 SPI.

ranger

eh sorry .....

isn,t doing 4x1k and 8x 500 sharpening

remember you told us first 6.28 before I START sharpening........

Daily, for a couple of months, together with distance trials, at your target paces?

Yes.
Once, at your target paces + 3?
No.
Just a check on fitness.
You gain three seconds over 2K from a couple of months of hard sharpening.
So the 500s @ 1:34, the 1Ks at 1:37, and the 2K trial at 1:37 will establish a point of departure for my sharpening.

ranger

This is a good one.

If you could do this pieces, you could do 6.28. So you think you are ready you don,t need to do those 500 en 1000 meters, cause you could do the 6.28. And even the 2k is not needed if you knew you could do.

So there is never a need to do the 500 and 1000 meter test's, you only need to do them if you are not sure about your form

All on all it doesn,t matter you will do the pieces just like you did the former seasons, but you are to chicken to tell the results.

The most funny thing about this post is the fact that dangy does do "sharpening" sessions but just calls them differently, it's not "sharpening" it's just a test.

[Yankeerunner]

Anyway, I think I will keep improving in my head for the next five years or so, at least, as my OTW experience broadens and deepens and my OTW technique improves.

It reads better without the word "races"; please let me know if you need further assistance with editing your work. You're welcome.[/code]

[ranger]

This is a good one.

If you could do this pieces, you could do 6.28. So you think you are ready you don,t need to do those 500 en 1000 meters, cause you could do the 6.28. And even the 2k is not needed if you knew you could do.

So there is never a need to do the 500 and 1000 meter test's, you only need to do them if you are not sure about your form

All on all it doesn,t matter you will do the pieces just like you did the former seasons, but you are to chicken to tell the results.

The most funny thing about this post is the fact that dangy does do "sharpening" sessions but just calls them differently, it's not "sharpening" it's just a test.

Sure, in the abstract, tests are circular in their logic, and therefore dispensable, but there are some practical results from testing that are useful in this case.

Doing these tests will get me up to speed for what I need to do in sharpening.

They will be a point of departure for a couple of months of daily sharpening at higher and higher rates and faster and faster paces.

ranger

[ranger]

you will do the pieces just like you did the former seasons, but you are to chicken to tell the results.

This is all in your head, Henry.

I haven't done any standard sharpening workouts since 2003, so on these matters, there has been nothing to report.

ranger

[JohnBove]

I haven't done any standard sharpening workouts since 2003, so on these matters, there has been nothing to report.

ranger

Liar. You've aimed and sharpened for competitions, failed (rowed badly, failed to showed up, blown weight, spit the bit), and lied about your training after. You're still lying about it.

Or, of course, you were lying then.

You lie so much you probably believe what you say. But it's okay; we all know you're a head case.

[whp4]

I haven't done anything since 2003, so on these matters, there has been nothing to report.

You tend to run on at the mouth. Tightening up your words makes for a more accurate statement!

[ranger]

I haven't done any standard sharpening workouts since 2003, so on these matters, there has been nothing to report.

ranger

Liar. You've aimed and sharpened for competitions, failed (rowed badly, failed to showed up, blown weight, spit the bit), and lied about your training after. You're still lying about it.

Or, of course, you were lying then.

You lie so much you probably believe what you say. But it's okay; we all know you're a head case.

The erg is a truth machine, so lying is easily detected.

Last year, I had the best 2K time in my age and weight division by three seconds (6:41), just on the basis of foundational training, with no hard distance rowing or sharpening.

Even though I am only a year from the next age division, I was only three seconds off the WR in the 55s lwts.

The 60s lwt WR is 6:42.

I get about a dozen seconds each from hard distance rowing and sharpening, so it will be interesting how things turn out this year.

This year, I am no longer doing low rate, foundational rowing at all, just hard distance rowing and sharpening.

My goal for 2K after my hard distance rowing is my pb, 6:28.

My goal for 2K after full sharpening is (as it has always been) 6:16.

I am already at weight, four months ahead of when I got to weight last year.

Failure?

Hardly.

Training is coming along beautifully.

ranger