Hijacking of the daily training thread

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Hijacking of the daily training thread

Post by Bob S. » October 3rd, 2009, 3:10 pm

Many of the recent posts to the "What Training Have You Done Today?" thread have not been at all pertinent to that thread. If some of you guys just have to play your silly, goddamn games, please send those messages to the proper threads, as a number of members have been careful to do. There are several threads available to carry on these endless, stupid arguments. Use those instead of cluttering up the WTHYDT thread.

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Post by philrow » October 3rd, 2009, 5:19 pm

Wasn't ranger banned from posting here for awhile? Or am I thinking of the UK forum? In any case, it's really not a bad idea... His very existence here significantly detracts from the quality of the general atmosphere and forum experience.

But what do I know...

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Post by Bob S. » October 3rd, 2009, 10:17 pm

philrow wrote:Wasn't ranger banned from posting here for awhile? Or am I thinking of the UK forum? In any case, it's really not a bad idea... His very existence here significantly detracts from the quality of the general atmosphere and forum experience.

But what do I know...

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I don't believe that he was banned here, but the UK ban has been on for several months.

My only complaint is about that one thread. I did read a couple of Ranger's posts on there that were O.K. They were reports of his days' training and that is what the thread is about. Somewhere down the line, things went off track and the arguments started. I don't know which message got that going, whether it was one of his or one from one of the respondents. I am not interested enough to go back and dig it up.

If he and others want to play their games on the other threads, that's fine with me. Those can be recognized by their subject titles and are easy to ignore. I just don't feel that the arguments are appropriate to the "what training have you done today" thread. Banning is not a good solution as far as I am concerned.

I was tempted to respond to each of the off-topic messages on that thread with a notice that it was inappropriate, but there is no point in just starting another game. I believe that it is possible for a moderator to switch such messages to other thread, but that would probably involve too much time and effort.

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Post by ranger » October 4th, 2009, 4:39 am

Bob S. wrote:you guys just have to play your silly, goddamn games
Bob--

Indeed we do.

Humans are playful animals.

If your use of "games" here is a pejorative, as it clearly seems to be ("silly," "goddamn"), you might want to pause to consider:

Rowing is also just a "game."

It has none of the weighty significance you seem to be attributing to it.

It has no more significance than the other "silly, goddamn" things of its own sort.

On this issue, _your_ judgments and attitudes are misplaced, not mine.

Play on!

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Post by Citroen » October 4th, 2009, 4:42 am

Bob S. wrote:I believe that it is possible for a moderator to switch such messages to other thread, but that would probably involve too much time and effort.
On this forum (which is still running an ancient version of the software) I don't have the power to move items, only to delete them and Ranger's stuff is so tedious that I don't bother reading it or the vitriol that it generates.

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Post by ranger » October 4th, 2009, 4:44 am

Citroen wrote:
Bob S. wrote:I believe that it is possible for a moderator to switch such messages to other thread, but that would probably involve too much time and effort.
On this forum (which is still running an ancient version of the software) I don't have the power to move items, only to delete them and Ranger's stuff is so tedious that I don't bother reading it or the vitriol that it generates.
Little Hitler has lost his concentration camps and gas chambers?

Awwwwww.

Too bad.

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Re: Hijacking of the daily training thread

Post by hjs » October 4th, 2009, 6:50 am

Bob S. wrote:Many of the recent posts to the "What Training Have You Done Today?" thread have not been at all pertinent to that thread. If some of you guys just have to play your silly, goddamn games, please send those messages to the proper threads, as a number of members have been careful to do. There are several threads available to carry on these endless, stupid arguments. Use those instead of cluttering up the WTHYDT thread.

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Post by ausrwr » October 4th, 2009, 8:56 am

ranger wrote:
Citroen wrote:
Bob S. wrote:I believe that it is possible for a moderator to switch such messages to other thread, but that would probably involve too much time and effort.
On this forum (which is still running an ancient version of the software) I don't have the power to move items, only to delete them and Ranger's stuff is so tedious that I don't bother reading it or the vitriol that it generates.
Little Hitler has lost his concentration camps and gas chambers?

Awwwwww.

Too bad.

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Post by Yankeerunner » October 4th, 2009, 8:57 am

I'm not sure when it starts, but it seems to me that it is whenever he-who-shall-not-be-named decides to take over.

Today's WTHYDT is a good example. Not content with his narcissistic ramblings, he responds to a brief actual training report from bloomp with a 38-paragraph disparagement of the guy's workout.

Sadly, that makes it a normal day in his world.

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Post by gooseflight » October 4th, 2009, 11:24 am

In this context, Greasemonkey users may like to give this script a whirl (only tested in Firefox). Feel free to PM me with suggestions, revisions, etc:

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Post by Citroen » October 4th, 2009, 1:47 pm

gooseflight wrote:In this context, Greasemonkey users may like to give this script a whirl (only tested in Firefox). Feel free to PM me with suggestions, revisions, etc:
Since Ranger was kind enough to provide a testcase on this thiread, I can confirm that Greasemonkey script appears to have the desired effect on his ramblings. It doesn't suppress those folk who quote his noise and respond to him.

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Post by ranger » October 4th, 2009, 2:37 pm

bloomp wrote:he responds to a brief actual training report from bloomp with a 38-paragraph disparagement of the guy's workout.
This is just the kind of good advice that Paul is looking for from this forum, I would hope.

He is trying to be a better rower.

For those in the real world, with real ambitions in the sport, getting praise for effort of any sort, even if the effort is misguided, if not destructive, is not very useful.

For those who don't row well, level 4 rowing in the Wolverine Plan is just paddling, rowing badly, the ingraining of bad technical and skeletal-motor habits.

For a varsity college rower, there is no conceivable benefit to pulling 9.5 SPI at 16 spm (2:12 pace!) for an hour or two, except that perhaps you don't have to shower afterward, because you don't break a sweat.

That's just goofing around, goofing off.

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Post by ranger » October 4th, 2009, 2:47 pm

hjs wrote:if you give people like R room to spill their lies people tend to respond
But as it turns out, there were no lies, just befuddled, confused responses to the truth.

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Post by whp4 » October 4th, 2009, 3:33 pm

ranger wrote: But as it turns out, there were no lies, just befuddled, confused responses to the truth.
We weren't talking about your posts...

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Post by Byron Drachman » October 4th, 2009, 6:52 pm

ranger wrote:
Citroen wrote:
Bob S. wrote:I believe that it is possible for a moderator to switch such messages to other thread, but that would probably involve too much time and effort.
On this forum (which is still running an ancient version of the software) I don't have the power to move items, only to delete them and Ranger's stuff is so tedious that I don't bother reading it or the vitriol that it generates.
Little Hitler has lost his concentration camps and gas chambers?

Awwwwww.

Too bad.

ranger
It is not completely shocking to see a posting like this at a public forum, but many people who use such ugly references to lynching blacks, raping women, extermination of Jews, etc., assuming they are being clever or humorous, realize that they are offensive and at least have enough sense to hide behind aliases. But you leave your name in your signature.

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