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Sir P · Post by **Sir P** » September 22nd, 2009, 11:30 am

ranger, If Pete gave you some advice you may well row better than a sub 6:40. You sure would have rowed faster than a 7:11 a few years back when you target was 6:16

ranger · Post by **ranger** » September 22nd, 2009, 7:21 pm

Sir P wrote:ranger, If Pete gave you some advice you may well row better than a sub 6:40. You sure would have rowed faster than a 7:11 a few years back when you target was 6:16

I haven't been preparing to race since 2003 (although I am now).

I have been learning to row.

Pete should do the same, no?

Rowing is all about basic effectiveness and efficiency.

It isn't at all about racing.

It takes _years_ to learn to row well.

It takes a couple of months to sharpen up for a race.

ranger

ranger · Post by **ranger** » September 22nd, 2009, 7:24 pm

Janice wrote:I'm just here to do the usual bit of defending my man. To clear up some confusion and to right a very misinformed opinion:

Pete has attended two Concept2 training courses: Instructor and Crew Class training. He is an Approved Concept2 Instructor and an Approved Concept2 Crew Class Instructor.

So to say that he has no coaching experience or qualifications is false.

J

Pete rows OTW?

Sorry.

I didn't know.

What does he do for 2K OTW?

ranger

ranger · Post by **ranger** » September 22nd, 2009, 7:29 pm

bloomp wrote:I'd like to also call 'bull' on your 'training sessions'. There is no way on earth you train for five hours per day. There is no way your body could handle that strain, especially at your age. And even if it can, if you happen to injure yourself, kiss your possibility to set another WR good-bye, your body will take forever to heal.

I do five hours pretty regularly, as I did back in 2003, too (and various times in between).

Three hours of my training session is now on my bike at UT2 levels of effort, so that is no big deal--just fat burning.

It sure is getting the job done, though!

I am lowering my body fat by 1% every three days or so, losing about a pound a day.

I should be at 8% body fat and 155 lbs. in a couple of weeks.

My work on the erg and OTW is more intense, but putting in an hour on the erg and then an hour on the water is no big deal.

Elite rowers do much more than that.

Injured? Sick? Stale?

Bah.

It makes you feel great.

I am now doing it every day.

ranger

ranger · Post by **ranger** » September 22nd, 2009, 7:36 pm

Chris Brett wrote:Is ranger the best wind up merchant in town

I have three WR rows and have won all of the major championships.

Not a wind up at all, no?

At the end of the month, I will be 10 seconds under the WR on the erg.

At WIRC 2010, I will stretch that to 22 seconds.

I am going to pull a lwt 6:16 when I am 59 years old.

That will break Caviston's 40s lwt WR by a considerable margin and be just a stroke or so off of Tom Kay's lwt 30s British record.

ranger

ranger · Post by **ranger** » September 22nd, 2009, 7:41 pm

bloomp wrote:You spoke in one of your posts about how "people decline in strength" as they age

Yes, they do; but only from neglect.

Aerobic capacity is something else entirely.

It necessarily declines with age, even if you try to maintain it.

Pull like Stephansen?

Sure.

I pull harder than Stephansen.

I have already pulled a 2K at 12 SPI--three years ago.

I didn't sharpen for it, though, and I was still working out problems with technique.

So I didn't get the rate up as high as I will now.

Stephansen pulls 11 SPI.

Back in 2006, I pulled 12 SPI at 31 spm for 2K.

I'll now rate 37 spm.

ranger

ranger · Post by **ranger** » September 22nd, 2009, 7:45 pm

bloomp wrote:Hell, most kids in GB start rowing at 7-9 years of age, giving them equal experience to you.

I didn't say that I had a lot of experience with rowing.

Obviously, I don't.

I said I was used to doing 5-hour workouts (and the like).

I have 50 years of experience with endurance sports--skating, swimming, running, canoeing, etc., and now rowing.

No, someone who is 20 doesn't have 50 years of experience with it yet.

ranger

snowleopard · Post by **snowleopard** » September 23rd, 2009, 4:30 am

ranger wrote:
Chris Brett wrote:Is ranger the best wind up merchant in town
I have three WR rows and have won all of the major championships.

Not a wind up at all, no?

At the end of the month, I will be 10 seconds under the WR on the erg.

At WIRC 2010, I will stretch that to 22 seconds.

I am going to pull a lwt 6:16 when I am 59 years old.

That will break Caviston's 40s lwt WR by a considerable margin and be just a stroke or so off of Tom Kay's lwt 30s British record.

ranger is an attention seeking has been and appears to suffer from at least one personality disorder. He did a couple of good rows in the past.

His record is frequently treated with suspicion because many of his distance PBs outside of competition were rowed on "Just Row". It is significant that he has not posted a single PB at any distance since verification was introduced. His justification is that he has been "learning to row."

On the UK forum his training schedule and results have been subjected to some scrutiny. Needless to say, discrepancies have been found. If you think there's a case for calling 'bull' on his regime you are justfied.

He has DNF'd and DNS'd more races than soft Mick. His excuses are legendary. He failed to complete one race owing to lack of muscle grease, and failed to start another because his feet were frozen to the pavement.

He polluted the UK forum with repetitive nonsense and was banished to his diary where he was subsequently shunned. As a result he has popped up again on this forum just so he can give his cranky theories an airiing. The drivel he posts here, much of it in response to himself, is identical to the stuff he has been posting on the UK forum for several years.

Sir P · Post by **Sir P** » September 23rd, 2009, 4:55 am

ranger talks the talk but does not walk the walk. In his day he was an excellent erger, the last few years he has done nothing (except 1 BIRC championship Record, and he only got that because Roy Brook could not make it and Roy could have rowed quicker with just one arm).

ranger now lives in his own little world where he is king, but in the real would he is a big nothing.

He should have retired gracefully.

Chris Brett · Post by **Chris Brett** » September 23rd, 2009, 10:18 am

I have three WR rows and have won all of the major championships.

I know who you are Rich. I was just referring to the bilge that seeps continuously from your keyboard.

You set those records because of genetics and because there probably was no one else your age who could devote the same amount of time to training. None of that validates your tedious and horrendously under researched theories. If you are not just trying to wind everyone up then you need help. I hope that you are and if so I think you need to be commended for your success.

If you believe your childish notions then it is quite shocking for someone of reputed intelligence. If I can pull a power per stroke at a lower stroke rate and for a shorter duration I will therefore be able to do the same at a higher stroke rate and for a longer duration. IT IS NONSENSE! It is not based on science and simply reflects the misguided ramblings of a pathetic individial who has lost touch with reality. I feel genuine pity and concern for your condition and for all the abuse you receive for your apparently uncontrollable need to spout drivel. I can bang out low 1:40s at rate 18 for 4-5 minutes after virtually no training for months. What SPI bull$#!t does that produce? 18+ I pulled an SPI of 17.7 for a 2K when I was very new to rowing. Based on this scientific information how many WRs am I going to break over the next year?

I can't wait for you to knock 10 seconds of that World Record. Oh no yes I can wait for along time. If you do though it won't be because of your groundless theories.

Pete Marston · Post by **Pete Marston** » September 23rd, 2009, 11:10 am

Thanks for your interest in my training and coaching Rich, you're welcome to email me if you need training advice any time - the details and costs are on my blog.

My training is going very well, thanks for asking. Yesterday I rowed a 4min piece for the concept2 challenge series, and managed 1305m at 1:31.9 pace, at 35spm. This was a fairly flat paced effort without a sprint finish. This Sunday I will be racing a mile race in Grimsby where I hope to hold a similar pace for the extra 304m, which would get me a pb for the mile. Then in November I will be racing at BIRC again in the 30-34 hwt category where I plan on being in shape to better my 6:11 personal best.

I don't train on the water as I race on the erg, and so my time is better spent training on the erg. I look forward to your email if you do want any advice to help you out of your decline of the past 6 years, and thanks again for your continued interest in my own training, it is appreciated.

Best,

Pete

Pete Marston · Post by **Pete Marston** » September 23rd, 2009, 11:19 am

By the way, I have considered trying to compete as a lightweight in the past, as I am the same height as you at 5'11. Despite being at a large disadvantage against the hwt giants I often compete against, to whom I often give away 6+ inches in height and 15+ kg in weight, it seems pointless to do this. Afterall, the 75kg cut off is just an arbitary figure that I could not comfortably fall under (as I am currently 87kg with 15% body fat - ie about 74kg of lean mass). There is nothing to win in indoor rowing other than bragging rights, and there is little point in those if you're not competing against the best of your age range on the day. So I continue to simply devote about an hour a day, 6 days a week to my training, and another couple of days a month to coaching, as that does make me a living.