pm3 monitor question for c2

johnlvs2run · Post by **johnlvs2run** » September 2nd, 2008, 3:58 pm

A few days ago I set the pm3 for a 10k with 1k splits, then alternated fast and slow 1k's.
The pm3 showed 1k splits during the row, but the memory showed only 2k splits.

This is a recurring issue at all distances, that I've seen others post about too.

Is there anything I can do to get the pm3 to show the splits that I set.

PaulS · Post by **PaulS** » September 2nd, 2008, 4:24 pm

John Rupp wrote:A few days ago I set the pm3 for a 10k with 1k splits, then alternated fast and slow 1k's.
The pm3 showed 1k splits during the row, but the memory showed only 2k splits.

This is a recurring issue at all distances, that I've seen others post about too.

Is there anything I can do to get the pm3 to show the splits that I set.

That's interesting. Are you using a log card?
I always use a log card and rarely use the default (1/5th) split, and have never seen a problem with the splits being remembered, but perhaps without a log card the internal memory treats things differently.

johnlvs2run · Post by **johnlvs2run** » September 2nd, 2008, 4:31 pm

Yes, I always use the log card.

PaulS · Post by **PaulS** » September 2nd, 2008, 7:28 pm

Is is 100% reproducible? i.e. set up a 1000m session with 100m splits and see if it goes to 200m splits when recalling from the log card.

Just tried it and all 10 showed up as expected, for immediate recall and after R&R of the log card.

johnlvs2run · Post by **johnlvs2run** » September 2nd, 2008, 7:52 pm

Yes, it happens quite often, at any and all distances.

Are you setting a 1000m distance, not variable, with 100m splits?

I don't know if it's 100% of the time, as I gave up on trying to get the splits
to come out when I first got the monitor. However, I will check this and see.

PaulS · Post by **PaulS** » September 3rd, 2008, 7:46 am

Yes. "New Workout" > "Single Distance" > 1000m with 100m splits and no pace boat, Not saved as a favorite.

It could be a bug in the PM3 that doesn't show up in a PM4, I don't have a PM3 any longer, though am pretty sure that the base software functions are the same code base.

Are you updated to the latest firmware for the PM3?

c2scott · Post by **c2scott** » September 3rd, 2008, 10:09 am

I suggest:

1) Contact me directly for futher direct discussions; I'll post results when investigation is complete. My email address is shown in my cute picture to the left...
2) What firmware version is causing this issue? I'll set up a test and try to reproduce.
3) If not current firmware version, try updating to latest (PM3 v101, PM4 v21) and see if the problem persists.
4) Send me a copy of the LogCard with a few of the rows identified so I can have a look.

johnlvs2run · Post by **johnlvs2run** » September 3rd, 2008, 11:42 am

I'm using v97, as 101 would shorten the timeout to 2 minutes.
Aren't these versions the same in regards to the splits?

I'm planning to test it again this morning.

How do I identify the rows and send a copy of the logcard?

c2scott · Post by **c2scott** » September 3rd, 2008, 11:54 am

Ok, I will test 97 in the next few days.

If you can row and get the workout on a logcard, then use the LogCard Utility to make a backup file (maintain logcard, make backup) and send me the .lcb file via email. Then just let me know the date/time of the workout and I'll have a look.

-- Scott

c2scott · Post by **c2scott** » September 3rd, 2008, 2:12 pm

I cannot confirm on one single test using PM3 ver 97 firmware. Should I keep trying?

johnlvs2run · Post by **johnlvs2run** » September 3rd, 2008, 3:34 pm

c2scott wrote:If you can row and get the workout on a logcard, then use the LogCard Utility to make a backup file (maintain logcard, make backup) and send me the .lcb file via email. Then just let me know the date/time of the workout and I'll have a look.

-- Scott

Could you please translate that into english.

Apparently this is not 100% of the time, as I did a 5' warm up this morning with 30" splits and it came out okay.

The 10k of fast/slow 1k's that I did a few days ago is still in the memory.
I could send that info to you - if I knew how to do it. The pm3 is not connected to computer.
Is there information on the card to copy off and email?

This has happened a few times on half marathons where I've set 1k or 2k splits,
then instead of those at the end it gives me 5th's, something like 4300 meter splits.

johnlvs2run · Post by **johnlvs2run** » September 3rd, 2008, 3:48 pm

c2scott wrote:I cannot confirm on one single test using PM3 ver 97 firmware. Should I keep trying?

No, it must be the way my pm3 is set up.

I wonder if the issue has something to do with the limit of 30 splits on the monitor.

What I usually do because of the issue is set a time interval and row a specific distance
in that time, for example setting 3' between reps and rowing 500 meters in each 3' interval.
In contrast to meter splits, time intervals have not had any problem getting 30 reps for each set.

c2scott · Post by **c2scott** » September 8th, 2008, 11:41 am

John:

With respect to the backup of the LogCard, this would require the use of a Mac or Windows PC. I'd be happy to help you over the phone step by step. You could also take a digital photo of the "Detail" results screen from Memory.

With respect to splits: there is a limit of 30 splits or 30 intervals. A half-marathon should work fine with 1k splits as this results in 22 splits. I assume you are setting up the workouts as Select -> new -> single distance or -> single time. Again I'd be happy to discuss on the phone as it may be more efficient than posting here.

johnlvs2run · Post by **johnlvs2run** » September 8th, 2008, 3:30 pm

Hi Scott,

Thanks for your helpfulness.
I'm not using a mac or windows pc.

I assume you are setting up the workouts as Select -> new -> single distance or -> single time.

Yes. By 30 splits, I meant including the 5 different settings.
Usually I set 4 of the settings with no number of splits and the 5th one for a time trial.

I'm going to put this on hold for now, as I'm not using the split function much currently.

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